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Old 20 August 2021, 05:27 AM   #1
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5146 r offered by AD

Hi guys, I am new to the forum and recently started to look for a 5205 r in black dial. Spoke to my AD who still has a stock of 5146 r in the cream dial and offered me.
I have been told that the 5205 r will be available most likely next year if i am on the so-called list.

Should I wait or the 5146 is not to be missed?
Personally, 5146 r does look nice but my eyes sparkle when I see the 5205R.

Thank you in advance.
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Old 20 August 2021, 07:19 AM   #2
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the 5146 has been discontinued and you might not have more chances to get it in new unworn condition with your name on the certificate from the AD.
it had a good run but as soon as it was announced discontinued....demand for it seems to spiked really quick.
my AD had 7 in stock and they all got bought within a very short period of the discontinuation announcement.
i personally love the cream dial on the 5146 and 5320
so my vote would be yes.....get it
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Old 20 August 2021, 07:31 AM   #3
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the 5146 has been discontinued and you might not have more chances to get it in new unworn condition with your name on the certificate from the AD.
it had a good run but as soon as it was announced discontinued....demand for it seems to spiked really quick.
my AD had 7 in stock and they all got bought within a very short period of the discontinuation announcement.
i personally love the cream dial on the 5146 and 5320
so my vote would be yes.....get it
thank you for the lovely picture, thast does look fabulous!!
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Old 20 August 2021, 07:38 AM   #4
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I have actually found a 5235 R from a grey dealer unworn at 20 percent off, which also looks fab.

So i either buy 5146 R from AD, 5205 R ( wait till next year ) or buy 5235 from grey dealer unworn at 20 percent off? wish i can buy all three lol
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Old 20 August 2021, 08:51 AM   #5
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Personally, 5146 r does look nice but my eyes sparkle when I see the 5205R.
I think you answered your own question: get the 5205R instead.

Of course, you could get the 5146 now, but settling for 2nd best is never a sustainable strategy. Sooner or later, you'll switch up to what you really wanted. (BTW I have the 5205R-001, great piece, highly recommended.)
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Old 20 August 2021, 08:52 AM   #6
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They're both annual calendars, so pick your favorite and go for it.

The 5146R is perfectly Patek and more subtle than the 5205R/black dial. The 5146 is classic whereas the 5205 is modern. The 5146 will be more versatile IMO.
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Old 20 August 2021, 09:34 AM   #7
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They're both annual calendars, so pick your favorite and go for it.

The 5146R is perfectly Patek and more subtle than the 5205R/black dial. The 5146 is classic whereas the 5205 is modern. The 5146 will be more versatile IMO.
hi, totally agree. I have now also actually found a 5235 R from the grey dealer, unworn, at a 20 percent off price. I am now confused as want all three lol but will have to settle for one lol.

The price for the 5235 seems quite good to be honest. I havent seen this watch in real though.

Advice much appreciated.
option 1 . 5146 from ad
2. wait for 5205 R
3. get the 5235 R from grey dealer unworn at 20 percent off.
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Old 20 August 2021, 10:50 AM   #8
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Choose whatever you prefer. You won't go wrong with either.
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Old 20 August 2021, 11:17 AM   #9
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I was in your position last year choosing between 5205g slate dial and 5146P. Went with 5205 because i felt it looks more modern
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Old 20 August 2021, 11:58 AM   #10
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I like 5205G-013 the most but 5235R is great timepiece also.

Which trusted grey dealer has unworn 5235R at 20% discount? It seems like a pretty good deal.

If you don't take it, please let me know, my friend might be interested.
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Old 20 August 2021, 07:38 PM   #11
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Sorry, I just notice that you’re in UK.

Please let us know which one you decide to get, they’re all good.
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Old 20 August 2021, 09:39 PM   #12
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My vote. Much prefer the more classic dial layout over the more modern 5205. Keep us posted, this is a great reference at a relatively affordable price.


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Old 20 August 2021, 10:37 PM   #13
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I always recommend trying on all the watches before making a purchase. Legibility is the best on the 5146 due to the lume hands. Many people have complained about poor legibility on the 5205R black dial, but it seems better on the blue dial 5205G since they added the lume hands.

The 5235 is in a different category with the regulator dial, although it is still an AC. It is a beautiful watch as well.

If you can compare all three side by side, it would be best. However even if you can't see them all at once, trying on each at different AD or gray dealers will give you an idea how the watch wears on your wrist and how legible the dial is (if that is important to you).

Best of luck in your decision! They are all great watches!
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Old 20 August 2021, 11:10 PM   #14
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hi guys, this grey slate on the 5146 looks amazing!!

I think 5205 R is the one i would probably go for, even though will need to wait, also a great idea to try those on at the ad and grey dealers if i like the regulator then might just go for it considering the price if not most likely the modern 5205 R for sure.

Does the 5205 R go as low as 20% at the grey dealers as mght keep an eye on it for a unworn watch.

going tomorrow to a AD to see the 5205 but in WG.

my first Patek here I come !!!
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Old 20 August 2021, 11:56 PM   #15
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I think 5205 is the most desirable for the modern PP AC. I plan to get one also.

5205G-013 WG Blue dial and 5205R-010 RG Black dial are the most popular.

I think if you get it from trusted secondary market dealers, you might save some + sale tax but you cannot build up your relationship with the boutique for future sport models.
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hi guys, this grey slate on the 5146 looks amazing!!

I think 5205 R is the one i would probably go for, even though will need to wait, also a great idea to try those on at the ad and grey dealers if i like the regulator then might just go for it considering the price if not most likely the modern 5205 R for sure.

Does the 5205 R go as low as 20% at the grey dealers as mght keep an eye on it for a unworn watch.

going tomorrow to a AD to see the 5205 but in WG.

my first Patek here I come !!!
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Old 21 August 2021, 04:23 AM   #18
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Both are very beautiful AC pieces. I don't think you can go wrong with either. However, I do say, you should go for the piece you want versus something that is just offered. If you "settle," majority of the times you end up trying to re-acquire the piece you wanted in the first place. At this moment, you can still get the 5205 by simply waiting. My AD told me their waitlist has become deep for the 5205 in general (whatever that means).

And who knows, the 5205 in general might be the next being discontinued.
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Old 21 August 2021, 07:47 AM   #19
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Both are very beautiful AC pieces. I don't think you can go wrong with either. However, I do say, you should go for the piece you want versus something that is just offered. If you "settle," majority of the times you end up trying to re-acquire the piece you wanted in the first place. At this moment, you can still get the 5205 by simply waiting. My AD told me their waitlist has become deep for the 5205 in general (whatever that means).

And who knows, the 5205 in general might be the next being discontinued.
you are absolutely right there, hence will most likely wait for RG 5205. I have called another AD and he has offered to show me a wg 5205 tomorrow, however, I prefer the RG version than the WG but would atleast see it and then decide.
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It feels so great to read all the posts about people desiring/waiting for/searching for/adding pieces not called Nautilus and Aquanut.

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Old 22 August 2021, 01:34 AM   #22
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so went to the AD and they had the older version of 5205 wg ( silver grey ) dial rather than the blue and were happy to offer that piece to me at the price prior to the increase which was around 35000 gbp.

I am afraid guys on the wrist it wasnt very appealingly to me as I believe I need slightly above 40 mm as felt a bit smaller for me. So now looks like I have to move on to the larger 5905 which is more expensive.

I guess I'll have to go for that one rather than 5205 but man i wanted the moon phase lol. I am glad I saw it in person to be sure, thanks to you guys.

i am now also going to see the regulator, but the 5146 is out as 39 will not be good on my wrist.
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so went to the AD and they had the older version of 5205 wg ( silver grey ) dial rather than the blue and were happy to offer that piece to me at the price prior to the increase which was around 35000 gbp.

I am afraid guys on the wrist it wasnt very appealingly to me as I believe I need slightly above 40 mm as felt a bit smaller for me. So now looks like I have to move on to the larger 5905 which is more expensive.

I guess I'll have to go for that one rather than 5205 but man i wanted the moon phase lol. I am glad I saw it in person to be sure, thanks to you guys.

i am now also going to see the regulator, but the 5146 is out as 39 will not be good on my wrist.

Have you tried the 5396? I had the same issue as you felt the 5205 and 5146 wore a but small for my liking. However, I then tried the 5396 and it was perfect even though its the same size.
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Have you tried the 5396? I had the same issue as you felt the 5205 and 5146 wore a but small for my liking. However, I then tried the 5396 and it was perfect even though its the same size.
damn it!!! they actually had a 5396 and I did not try it thinking Nah I prefer a 5205 lol. should have tried it, they actually are hosting an exhibition in a few weeks so I have a good opportunity to try a few watches. They actually had the 5320g too and man it looked so nice but a tad out of my price range, initially i was just thinking of the 5205 but due to size will now consider the chrono AC 5905 which is about 14 grand more expensive in gbp but they mentioned that will be able to get that for me by the end of this year which gives me some time to achieve that target to buy lol. the 5205 rg has a waiting list of more than a year now. So. far I am going crazy over the 5236p but seriously out of the price range.

BTW i am actually possibly gonna view a lange world time lange 1 hopefully too soon, but at a secondary dealer at a heavy discount in used, but that doesnt mean I wouldnt buy the Patek too. Man this watch buisiness is addictive.
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damn it!!! they actually had a 5396 and I did not try it thinking Nah I prefer a 5205 lol. should have tried it, they actually are hosting an exhibition in a few weeks so I have a good opportunity to try a few watches. They actually had the 5320g too and man it looked so nice but a tad out of my price range, initially i was just thinking of the 5205 but due to size will now consider the chrono AC 5905 which is about 14 grand more expensive in gbp but they mentioned that will be able to get that for me by the end of this year which gives me some time to achieve that target to buy lol. the 5205 rg has a waiting list of more than a year now. So. far I am going crazy over the 5236p but seriously out of the price range.

BTW i am actually possibly gonna view a lange world time lange 1 hopefully too soon, but at a secondary dealer at a heavy discount in used, but that doesnt mean I wouldnt buy the Patek too. Man this watch buisiness is addictive.
Interesting to see that they still have the older dial configuration available on the 5205. Got any wrist shots?

I think the 5905R/G would be a good size and configuration for you then.

If its just the size that is an issue for the 5205 than the 5905 is a great choice. It's unfortunate it doesn't have the moonphase but the chrono is nice too. I'm the opposite where 5905 is too larger for me.

On the 5396, I personally thought it was a bit smaller due to the slimmer profile. 5320 would be a better size for you in my opinion if you wanted a moonphase.

The hunt is fun the part like another member said.
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damn it!!! they actually had a 5396 and I did not try it thinking Nah I prefer a 5205 lol. should have tried it, they actually are hosting an exhibition in a few weeks so I have a good opportunity to try a few watches. They actually had the 5320g too and man it looked so nice but a tad out of my price range, initially i was just thinking of the 5205 but due to size will now consider the chrono AC 5905 which is about 14 grand more expensive in gbp but they mentioned that will be able to get that for me by the end of this year which gives me some time to achieve that target to buy lol. the 5205 rg has a waiting list of more than a year now. So. far I am going crazy over the 5236p but seriously out of the price range.

BTW i am actually possibly gonna view a lange world time lange 1 hopefully too soon, but at a secondary dealer at a heavy discount in used, but that doesnt mean I wouldnt buy the Patek too. Man this watch buisiness is addictive.
I love the new version of Lang 1 time zone (136.032), it such gorgeous timepiece. I plan to get one soon.
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Interesting to see that they still have the older dial configuration available on the 5205. Got any wrist shots?

I think the 5905R/G would be a good size and configuration for you then.

If its just the size that is an issue for the 5205 than the 5905 is a great choice. It's unfortunate it doesn't have the moonphase but the chrono is nice too. I'm the opposite where 5905 is too larger for me.

On the 5396, I personally thought it was a bit smaller due to the slimmer profile. 5320 would be a better size for you in my opinion if you wanted a moonphase.

The hunt is fun the part like another member said.
Hi sorry, didnt take any wrist shots at the AD. i do agree 5320 is a good choice but I want a RG watch at the moment hence the 5905 most likely. I agree i rather have the moonphase than chrono but 40 mm didnt suit me at all.
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I love the new version of Lang 1 time zone (136.032), it such gorgeous timepiece. I plan to get one soon.
I do agree the new 136.032 is better, however, the one I am seeing is the 116.021 time zone as the price difference is a lot and the differences subtle. Lets see how it looks like and if it looks good then atleast I will get hands on the first lange for me :)

Unless, someone says do not go for the older version ? The 5905 will be coming in Dec but will be trying it on in September in a exhibition to see how it fits for me.
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tried the 5905 and getting it in Dec :)
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