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amphr1 · 1 January 2022, 07:55 AM

If Rolex sells the Sub No Date with the option with black and double grey strip strap, would that receive positive or negative review? That particular pattern of Nato was thought of as the original bond NATO, but in fact it was black and white, it was just the film quality was so bad people thought it was grey. But has Omega completely taken over the James Bond connection? Will it feel weird in 2022 to have Rolex sell a bond nato officially? or does it now only seem appropriate on an Omega?

illiguy · 1 January 2022, 08:07 AM

Hard to say. Easier to say Rolex will never do this. That’s what they have Tudor for.

kieselguhr · 1 January 2022, 08:13 AM

I was wondering. How long is the James Bond franchise and Omega contract for?

JMGoodnight369 · 1 January 2022, 08:17 AM

I’m a huge enthusiast of the submariner. With that said I think the only subs that are at home on a NATO are the 6538 big crowns and the 5517 mil sub that had the fixed spring bars. All of the vintage ones can pull it off but I feel like the modern references case backs are too big to sit well on a NATO. I’ve tried it with my 114060 and wasn’t too jazzed. I think with the position Rolex has in the watch world offering a NATO would be kind of below them. That’s what they have Tudor for now

JR16 · 1 January 2022, 08:21 AM

It will never ever be done. Never ever. Plus, current reference sub looks ridiculous on a NATO.

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GB-man · 1 January 2022, 08:22 AM

There isn’t really a need. Anyone with a sub can buy a nato for 10 bucks. I don’t think they need to enforce any old bond references to sell them.

amphr1 · 1 January 2022, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by illiguy

Hard to say. Easier to say Rolex will never do this. That’s what they have Tudor for.

But Tudor was never a Bond watch

amphr1 · 1 January 2022, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

There isn’t really a need. Anyone with a sub can buy a nato for 10 bucks. I don’t think they need to enforce any old bond references to sell them.

One can argue that Rolex needs to change nothing and it would still sell like hot cakes for the next half decade.

-Ally- · 1 January 2022, 08:49 AM

Nope.

Krash · 1 January 2022, 08:56 AM

Never ever going to happen.

I think the question is whether nor not we’ll see a Submariner with an Oysterflex bracelet.

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inadeje · 1 January 2022, 08:57 AM

Here’s my omega on the so called bond nato and the 5 digit digit sub on black nato.

illiguy · 1 January 2022, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by amphora001

But Tudor was never a Bond watch

To be clear, I meant a Rolex sport model at Retail (i.e., not a Mil-Sub) on a nato.

sevusal · 1 January 2022, 11:59 AM

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1William · 2 January 2022, 01:08 AM

On OF not NATO.

Kevin of Larchmont · 2 January 2022, 01:16 AM

I can imagine Rolex relentlessly mocked here for doing that.

illiguy · 2 January 2022, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sevusal

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Looks great! NATO aesthetic works well on 12 series versus the 11. The better lug taper makes that possible.

SaintMickey · 2 January 2022, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by amphora001

If Rolex sells the Sub No Date with the option with black and double grey strip strap, would that receive positive or negative review? That particular pattern of Nato was thought of as the original bond NATO, but in fact it was black and white, it was just the film quality was so bad people thought it was grey. But has Omega completely taken over the James Bond connection? Will it feel weird in 2022 to have Rolex sell a bond nato officially? or does it now only seem appropriate on an Omega?

It would be a PATHETIC Review. If they ever loose their way like Omega has...it will be a sad day.

Unless you are "in the water" Nato straps are embarrassing and usually wore by wrists that are too small to wear the watch on a bracelet. And usually it makes it look like they have a childs wrist.

What a horrible way to cheapen a watch.

SaintMickey · 2 January 2022, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

I can imagine Rolex relentlessly mocked here for doing that.

And rightly so.

tifosi · 2 January 2022, 03:21 AM

A Sub will never be offered on a nato from Rolex.

Bxtek · 2 January 2022, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

There isn’t really a need. Anyone with a sub can buy a nato for 10 bucks. I don’t think they need to enforce any old bond references to sell them.

Well said! Very true!

malba2366 · 2 January 2022, 03:46 AM

No. Rolex is all about maintaining a simple lineup on the professional watches...I don't see them adding complexity to the lineup with new straps especially when they can sell everything they have. I even think they will withhold any significant new releases at this point until they need them to juice sales.

SaintMickey · 2 January 2022, 04:03 AM

It does appear that the previous Submariner and the new 41 have definitely "out grown" many many wrists...

karleone · 2 January 2022, 04:28 AM

I think and I hope they will never do. I like the look of a Submariner on a Nato strap but at the end it’s not good as there is an unbalance between the heavy case and very thin and light strap. Finally nato strap looks good on 4 and 5 digits but it looks quite bad on 6 digits due to the very large case.

brandrea · 2 January 2022, 04:40 AM

I don’t think the 6 digits looks good on anything besides the factory bracelets, YMMV

Euge · 2 January 2022, 07:15 AM

I think the Sub looks much better with the bracelet by far….
But also like it with NATOs…

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1 January 2022, 07:55 AM	#1
amphr1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: El Cerrito, CA Posts: 2,149	Bond NATO on Sub - 2022 prediction? If Rolex sells the Sub No Date with the option with black and double grey strip strap, would that receive positive or negative review? That particular pattern of Nato was thought of as the original bond NATO, but in fact it was black and white, it was just the film quality was so bad people thought it was grey. But has Omega completely taken over the James Bond connection? Will it feel weird in 2022 to have Rolex sell a bond nato officially? or does it now only seem appropriate on an Omega?

1 January 2022, 08:22 AM	#6
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,009	There isn’t really a need. Anyone with a sub can buy a nato for 10 bucks. I don’t think they need to enforce any old bond references to sell them. __________________

1 January 2022, 08:57 AM	#11
inadeje 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Miami Watch: me lose count. Posts: 5,618	Here’s my omega on the so called bond nato and the 5 digit digit sub on black nato. __________________ ♛ 116689 ♛ 116500LN Blk ♛ 116500LN Wht ♛ Sky Dweller 326934-003 ♛ 126710BLNR ♛ 126710BLRO - ♛ 126610LV ♛ 16520 ♛ 16523 ♛ 16610 ♛ 5513 Birth Year - ✠ Patek Philippe 5980/1A-001 - AP 26331ST Panda - Panerai Fiddy 127, Bronzo 671, 687, 111, Ω Speedmaster 1957 Broad Arrow, Daniel Roth Endurer Chronosprint, Cartier Santos XL - ✿ Tudor Black Bay 58 Bronze M79012M, Montblanc TimeWalker Chrono 41

1 January 2022, 08:07 AM	#2
illiguy 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UTC/GMT -5 Posts: 3,540	Hard to say. Easier to say Rolex will never do this. That’s what they have Tudor for.

1 January 2022, 08:13 AM	#3
kieselguhr "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Nick Location: Las Vegas Watch: 1601 Posts: 10,531	I was wondering. How long is the James Bond franchise and Omega contract for?

1 January 2022, 08:17 AM	#4
JMGoodnight369 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Georgia USA Posts: 362	I’m a huge enthusiast of the submariner. With that said I think the only subs that are at home on a NATO are the 6538 big crowns and the 5517 mil sub that had the fixed spring bars. All of the vintage ones can pull it off but I feel like the modern references case backs are too big to sit well on a NATO. I’ve tried it with my 114060 and wasn’t too jazzed. I think with the position Rolex has in the watch world offering a NATO would be kind of below them. That’s what they have Tudor for now

1 January 2022, 08:21 AM	#5
JR16 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 6,201	It will never ever be done. Never ever. Plus, current reference sub looks ridiculous on a NATO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

1 January 2022, 08:49 AM	#9
-Ally- "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Sunny Scotland Posts: 592	Nope.

1 January 2022, 08:56 AM	#10
Krash 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Florida Watch: Sub, DJ41, GMT Posts: 7,374	Never ever going to happen. I think the question is whether nor not we’ll see a Submariner with an Oysterflex bracelet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 January 2022, 11:59 AM	#13
sevusal "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: CA Posts: 33	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

2 January 2022, 01:08 AM	#14
1William 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 45,548	On OF not NATO.

2 January 2022, 01:16 AM	#15
Kevin of Larchmont 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: The Doghouse Watch: Ingersoll Mickey Posts: 3,015	I can imagine Rolex relentlessly mocked here for doing that.

2 January 2022, 03:21 AM	#19
tifosi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Russ Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,760	A Sub will never be offered on a nato from Rolex.

2 January 2022, 03:46 AM	#21
malba2366 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2021 Location: NY Posts: 313	No. Rolex is all about maintaining a simple lineup on the professional watches...I don't see them adding complexity to the lineup with new straps especially when they can sell everything they have. I even think they will withhold any significant new releases at this point until they need them to juice sales.

2 January 2022, 04:03 AM	#22
SaintMickey Banned Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: USA Posts: 885	It does appear that the previous Submariner and the new 41 have definitely "out grown" many many wrists...

2 January 2022, 04:28 AM	#23
karleone "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Dayona Posts: 2,079	I think and I hope they will never do. I like the look of a Submariner on a Nato strap but at the end it’s not good as there is an unbalance between the heavy case and very thin and light strap. Finally nato strap looks good on 4 and 5 digits but it looks quite bad on 6 digits due to the very large case.

2 January 2022, 04:40 AM	#24
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 74,800	I don’t think the 6 digits looks good on anything besides the factory bracelets, YMMV

2 January 2022, 07:15 AM	#25
Euge "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Real Name: Eugenio Location: México Watch: All Watches Posts: 2,971	I think the Sub looks much better with the bracelet by far…. But also like it with NATOs… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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