Tudor Snowflake 9411/0

[alwayshere]

Originally Posted by Singhalager

Oh no not another vintage Tudor! At lease we see photos of this one!

Have you considered trying to contribute something positive to this forum or is this just your personality? pretty childish, isn't it?

[alwayshere]

Originally Posted by S_rhabel

Thx all…. I am going to let the watch pass!

Best regards
Robert

FWIW, I have the similar service dial tudor 9411. The indices on mine does have a soft cream to it. The one you have might be later given how pale white it is but that could also just be the photo.

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by alwayshere

FWIW, I have the similar service dial tudor 9411. The indices on mine does have a soft cream to it. The one you have might be later given how pale white it is but that could also just be the photo.

Is the OP's a service dial?
It isn't a swiss made version.

[alwayshere]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

Is the OP's a service dial?
It isn't a swiss made version.

Post #28 gives you the details of the service dial variations.

[MrChamfers]

Originally Posted by alwayshere

Post #28 gives you the details of the service dial variations.

Right, it looks like it's not a service dial.

"When Snowflake stopped being produced, Tudor brought out the so-called "service dials", first with Tritium and then with Luminova as "self-luminous material". There are several variants and they are recognizable by having the text "T SWISS MADE T" (Tritium) or only "SWISS MADE" (Luminova) or SWISS (Luminova) at the bottom."

[alwayshere]

Originally Posted by MrChamfers

Right, it looks like it's not a service dial.

"When Snowflake stopped being produced, Tudor brought out the so-called "service dials", first with Tritium and then with Luminova as "self-luminous material". There are several variants and they are recognizable by having the text "T SWISS MADE T" (Tritium) or only "SWISS MADE" (Luminova) or SWISS (Luminova) at the bottom."

Edit: sorry I see what you're asking about now. Correction, post #28 may not be exhaustive then.

My understanding and it may be the case for Harry and Linesider is that the new typeface Submariner, AKA Mark IV dial is also a service dial which is contrary to what post #28 is saying. Happy to be corrected but thats my understanding.

[panchoskywalker]

Originally Posted by S_rhabel

More pics… couldnt it be the wrong springbars??

I'm pretty sure the case is fake.

Can't post pictures but I'n referring to the pictures posted on post #5.

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

A quick cut n paste and dodgy translation from the Swedish site Klocksnack. here is the original link
https://klocksnack.se/threads/tudor-...versikt.86157/

lots of cool Snowflake info thanks to Tomas The Swede (hope you don't mind me spreading the info over here Tomas!)


moon crater dial

When ref. 9401/0 and 9411/0 were launched in 1975 and In 1973, a new generation of dials also came. They had the same appearance as the previous iteration but a new paint that would reduce the risk of bubbles. It is therefore not as common to see "Moon crater" dials on watches from 1975 onwards.


the rare MkIII dial

During the years 1977-78 there is an additional variation on the dial to 9401/0. It has ROUND indices instead of square ones and is very similar to the Rolex 5513 Maxi Dial. However, it comes with Snowflake pointers. This dial is extremely rare and I choose to call it Mk III. All indications are that for some reason that dial was supplied alongside the Mk II dial during those years. There is information that the Canadian Navy ordered watches with this configuration, it is conceivable that such specimens appear from time to time.

In the late 70s (date based on the earliest exes I've seen) another dial variant appears: you guessed it, I call it the Mk IV. It differs from the previous dials in that it has a completely new font in all text except TUDOR. All indications are that the Mk IV only exists for the ref. 9411/0 with date. I have searched in vain for pictorial evidence that this variant exists for 9401/0 but have been unable to find any evidence of it.



Ref 9411/0 with Mk IV dial, note the new typeface clearly visible in e.g. SUBMARINES

The Mk IV dials are sometimes seen on older flakes and my theory is that at service Tudor (before producing specific service dials, see below) simply replaced a bubbly Moon crater dial with a Mk IV.

When Snowflake stopped being produced, Tudor brought out the so-called "service dials", first with Tritium and then with Luminova as "self-luminous material". There are several variants and they are recognizable by having the text "T SWISS MADE T" (Tritium) or only "SWISS MADE" (Luminova) or SWISS (Luminova) at the bottom.

Very helpful stuff, thanks - mark 4 with the unusual font is the OPs ,✓

[linesiders]

If the case is legit (looks badly finished and rest of photos not good enough to be certain - want good photos AND engravings) then that is not the original dial for a 843K serial. S dials started in the 94x range. 843K is a Z dial