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Alexander88 · 16 April 2023, 07:55 AM

Hello,

I would like to ask you again for an assessment and share my thoughts with you.
I was offered a Rolex Sea Dweller 16660 from 1984 by a friend. The watch has a spider dial.
The watch does not have any accessories. Not even a bracelet. I like the look of the dial, very special.
But it also has its price. For that price, I would also get a 16660 in a full set in excellent condition.
The question is whether it's worth it. On chrono, there are a few 16660s with spider dials. All of them are quite expensive.
Is it just a damaged dial or worth a premium?
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts.

Best regards

Alex

joli160 · 16 April 2023, 08:09 AM

It’s a damaged dial. I’d rather have a nice one. Just my 2C

swaini3 · 16 April 2023, 09:41 AM

I definitely wouldn't pay a premium for it. I'd prefer the normal one with box and papers if they're the same price, no doubt.

Dan S · 16 April 2023, 09:43 AM

Can you post some good photos showing the distinctive features of the dial? You might have to take under the right type lighting. It's pretty hard to answer your question totally blind.

They are damaged dials, but I do like some of them. Others aren't appealing at all to me. Some sellers use the term to describe dials that don't even look like spider dials to me. And ultimately, very few would be worth a significant premium.

hutch300 · 16 April 2023, 09:52 AM

I’d rather buy a 16600 for 7-8k in good condition. They are out there and they should be more $$$!

Filipão · 16 April 2023, 10:12 AM

Spiders = cracked.

Damaged.

TuRo · 19 April 2023, 01:04 AM

I'm guessing this isn't a pre-8.5 million triple 6 matte dial as they didn't spider ordinarily.

The spider dial of 16750/5513/16660 etc tend to be the first two years of the post 8.5 million gloss white gold surround dials in my experience - ps I'm not keen on them either (though I do like so called stardust dials), these just look broken/damaged to my eyes !

Tom in Athens · 19 April 2023, 01:34 AM

Did the spider dial problem typically run into the R serial range?
Thanks - Tom

TuRo · 19 April 2023, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom in Athens

Did the spider dial problem typically run into the R serial range?
Thanks - Tom

Broadly yes, 85 - 87 (i.e.R) are the most common period of ones I've seen personally.

kegan · 19 April 2023, 01:55 AM

Damaged dial no bracelet same price as full set excellent? Nope.

Filipão · 19 April 2023, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TuRo

Broadly yes, 85 - 87 (i.e.R) are the most common period of ones I've seen personally.

Great info, as I'm still looking to buy a perfect 5513 WGS. Thanks Paul

16 April 2023, 07:55 AM	#1
Alexander88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: Connecticut Posts: 134	Rolex 16660 spider dial Hello, I would like to ask you again for an assessment and share my thoughts with you. I was offered a Rolex Sea Dweller 16660 from 1984 by a friend. The watch has a spider dial. The watch does not have any accessories. Not even a bracelet. I like the look of the dial, very special. But it also has its price. For that price, I would also get a 16660 in a full set in excellent condition. The question is whether it's worth it. On chrono, there are a few 16660s with spider dials. All of them are quite expensive. Is it just a damaged dial or worth a premium? Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Best regards Alex

16 April 2023, 08:09 AM	#2
joli160 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,475	It’s a damaged dial. I’d rather have a nice one. Just my 2C __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

16 April 2023, 09:43 AM	#4
Dan S 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Posts: 6,007	Can you post some good photos showing the distinctive features of the dial? You might have to take under the right type lighting. It's pretty hard to answer your question totally blind. They are damaged dials, but I do like some of them. Others aren't appealing at all to me. Some sellers use the term to describe dials that don't even look like spider dials to me. And ultimately, very few would be worth a significant premium. __________________ @oldwatchdan on IG

19 April 2023, 01:04 AM	#7
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,631	I'm guessing this isn't a pre-8.5 million triple 6 matte dial as they didn't spider ordinarily. The spider dial of 16750/5513/16660 etc tend to be the first two years of the post 8.5 million gloss white gold surround dials in my experience - ps I'm not keen on them either (though I do like so called stardust dials), these just look broken/damaged to my eyes ! __________________ How many times have I been downhearted Looked up and see him smiling like a shiny dime And hoped that he would stay and tell me Why he was so happy if he had the time Everybody Gets To Go To The Moon - Jimmy Webb

16 April 2023, 09:41 AM	#3
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,439	I definitely wouldn't pay a premium for it. I'd prefer the normal one with box and papers if they're the same price, no doubt.

16 April 2023, 09:52 AM	#5
hutch300 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jeff Location: PNW Posts: 1,350	I’d rather buy a 16600 for 7-8k in good condition. They are out there and they should be more $$$!

16 April 2023, 10:12 AM	#6
Filipão "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Filipe Location: Lisbon & Wadesdah Watch: Never too many Posts: 1,898	Spiders = cracked. Damaged.

19 April 2023, 01:34 AM	#8
Tom in Athens "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2023 Location: Georgia, U.S. Posts: 7	Did the spider dial problem typically run into the R serial range? Thanks - Tom

19 April 2023, 01:55 AM	#10
kegan "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 601	Damaged dial no bracelet same price as full set excellent? Nope.

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