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SoylentGreenChi · 29 November 2023, 10:51 AM

I’d go with the Patek - the 5235r being one of the more interesting and rarely seen Patek references, with a lovely micro rotor movement. The Patek also comes with better case design (I don’t love how with Lange every case is the same). Finally, avoiding a Richemont brand is a plus, IMHO, since I have not always had the best experiences with Richemont brands.

nyc2la · 29 November 2023, 01:54 PM

If the 5235 didn’t have the annual calendar, it would be a top contender for a PP to add in my book. I’m just not a fan of the apertures on the watch. YMMV. Plus, it wears long across the wrist , lug to lug. Very cool watch, nonetheless.

I vote (Grand) Lange 1.

kaiserphoenix · 29 November 2023, 02:29 PM

Really great choices. I have owned both. I still own the Lange 1 if that makes any difference. Really tough choice, I really like both watches. But in the end the Lange 1 just edges it for me, based on better ergonomics (size is just perfect, 5235 is just a tad large), Lange 1 is really an icon, a watch with alot of history now, whereas the 5235 is also significant, I think Patek is yet to "perfect" the design of it if you get what i mean. Like I can see them tweaking it still.

ts3 · 29 November 2023, 04:40 PM

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The Lange is pretty thick compared to the Patek

Actually, the Lange 1 is slightly thinner than 5235. Basically both are 10mm. The Lange 1 may look thicker as it is smaller and not "all dial" like 5235.

I think I'd go Lange 1 here and I agree with Gebbeth above that its design is far from "Bauhaus" although I have read that before.

Michael1968 · 29 November 2023, 09:24 PM

My vote goes to PP 5235R

gm58 · 29 November 2023, 10:43 PM

cant go wrong with L1 for sure - definitely a classic

kaiserphoenix · 29 November 2023, 11:17 PM

It needs some photos:

dauster · 30 November 2023, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

It needs some photos:

stunning pic looks fantastic

nyc2la · 30 November 2023, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

It needs some photos:

Beauty!

WatchTimes · 30 November 2023, 01:03 PM

I don't know why but the date change button at 10 on Lange just annoys me.

JettyOne · 30 November 2023, 01:55 PM

Grand Lange One

ChetBaker · 1 December 2023, 04:57 AM

5235 unless we’re talking stealth or darth.

Toffeeman · 4 December 2023, 12:02 AM

5235 is a very modern iteration of a Patek design. Is undervalued now.

Will win many hearts hopefully.

Lange 1 is equally beautiful though. Based on personal preference, 5235 still win marginally for its features, modern forward looking design, and brilliant movement.

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29 November 2023, 01:54 PM	#32
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,187	If the 5235 didn’t have the annual calendar, it would be a top contender for a PP to add in my book. I’m just not a fan of the apertures on the watch. YMMV. Plus, it wears long across the wrist , lug to lug. Very cool watch, nonetheless. I vote (Grand) Lange 1. __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

29 November 2023, 02:29 PM	#33
kaiserphoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/Tokyo Watch: FPJ CO BL Posts: 1,616	Really great choices. I have owned both. I still own the Lange 1 if that makes any difference. Really tough choice, I really like both watches. But in the end the Lange 1 just edges it for me, based on better ergonomics (size is just perfect, 5235 is just a tad large), Lange 1 is really an icon, a watch with alot of history now, whereas the 5235 is also significant, I think Patek is yet to "perfect" the design of it if you get what i mean. Like I can see them tweaking it still. __________________ F.P.Journe Chronometre Optimum Black Label, Patek 5811G-001, A. Lange & Söhne Lange 1 191.039, Patek 5167A-001, Rolex Yacht-Master 40 Everrose, (Wh) Rolex Daytona 116500, (Blue) Rolex Skydweller 326934, Rolex Submariner 126610LV IG: tokyo_watch_guy

29 November 2023, 11:17 PM	#37
kaiserphoenix "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London/Tokyo Watch: FPJ CO BL Posts: 1,616	It needs some photos: __________________ F.P.Journe Chronometre Optimum Black Label, Patek 5811G-001, A. Lange & Söhne Lange 1 191.039, Patek 5167A-001, Rolex Yacht-Master 40 Everrose, (Wh) Rolex Daytona 116500, (Blue) Rolex Skydweller 326934, Rolex Submariner 126610LV IG: tokyo_watch_guy

30 November 2023, 01:03 PM	#40
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,546	I don't know why but the date change button at 10 on Lange just annoys me. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

30 November 2023, 01:55 PM	#41
JettyOne "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2022 Location: USA Posts: 282	PP 5235R or Lange 1 Grand Lange One

29 November 2023, 10:51 AM	#31
SoylentGreenChi "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: États-Unis Watch: Patek, Rolex, Sinn Posts: 847	I’d go with the Patek - the 5235r being one of the more interesting and rarely seen Patek references, with a lovely micro rotor movement. The Patek also comes with better case design (I don’t love how with Lange every case is the same). Finally, avoiding a Richemont brand is a plus, IMHO, since I have not always had the best experiences with Richemont brands.

29 November 2023, 09:24 PM	#35
Michael1968 Banned Join Date: Aug 2021 Real Name: Michael Location: Europe Watch: UN,RolexTudor&more Posts: 2,742	My vote goes to PP 5235R

29 November 2023, 10:43 PM	#36
gm58 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: HK Posts: 174	cant go wrong with L1 for sure - definitely a classic

1 December 2023, 04:57 AM	#42
ChetBaker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Europe Posts: 565	5235 unless we’re talking stealth or darth.

4 December 2023, 12:02 AM	#43
Toffeeman "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Kuala Lumpur Watch: PP 5164A Posts: 208	5235 is a very modern iteration of a Patek design. Is undervalued now. Will win many hearts hopefully. Lange 1 is equally beautiful though. Based on personal preference, 5235 still win marginally for its features, modern forward looking design, and brilliant movement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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