" ROSE " Gold composition...??

[Damavand]

Howdy all..

Interesting thing happened...I was shopping with my wife today in this mall in Chandler, Arizona....she was in Victoria's secret and I decided to check out this Rolex AD. A salesman right at the door noticed my watch and big smiles, said to me: ROSE GOLD D&D 118235..!!! I was surprised by his instant knowledge and accepted to step inside to see what he was going to show me. What he wanted to show me was one identical to my watch now selling for over $27K..!!!!..and a new SS Date Just with Diamond Bezel...It was pretty but not my cup of tea.

Here's the strange tid bit of info... He said composition of "Rose Gold" includes a percentage of Platinium in it therefore, higher priced than Yellow 18k Gold Day & Dates....!!!
Is he telling the truth..?? I have never heard that before..!!!
What do you guys think...???
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[Mosco]

first time I am hearing about that... Always thought it was copper mixed with gold

[OYSTERMANN]

Mark,

My understanding of Rose Gold, is a composition of 75% pure Gold, with 5% Silver, 20% Copper and a touch of Platinum, to fix the alloy.

By comparison, Yellow Gold is 75% Gold, 20% Silver and 5% Copper.

Regards,

[deserted]

I like , I like, it's sharp! and it's a Rolex DD the rose gold is really a beautiful compliment to the watch.

[OYSTERMANN]

Originally Posted by deserted

I like , I like, it's sharp! and it's a Rolex DD the rose gold is really a beautiful compliment to the watch.

Agreed.

Mark's RG Day-Date is a fabulous watch.

[Damavand]

....SO....There is some Platty there and he was not BS,ing me...HUH...!!!
Now, You can knock me over with a feather...!!!.......

[OYSTERMANN]

Originally Posted by Damavand

....SO....There is some Platty there and he was not BS,ing me...HUH...!!!
Now, You can knock me over with a feather...!!!.......

Mark, there is definitely some Platinum in the alloy, but a very tiny amount - purely to act as a catalyst to fix the alloy of the other 3 metals, ensuring that the beautiful hue of the Rose Gold is permanent.

Regards,

[Damavand]

Thanks for the complimets Gents......

I remember the first time I saw this watch, I couldn't sleep that night...

To me, it was the most beautiful watch and put to shame other watches, when next to a Yellow Gold 18K Day and date....!!!! ( with all due respect and No offence to Yellow 18k owners..)......

[OYSTERMANN]

Originally Posted by Damavand

Thanks for the complimets Gents......

I remember the first time I saw this watch, I couldn't sleep that night...

To me, it was the most beautiful watch and put to shame other watches, when next to a Yellow Gold 18K Day and date....!!!! ( with all due respect and No offence to Yellow 18k owners..)......

None taken - the Rose Gold Day-Dates are beautiful, as, indeed, in my opinion, are all Day-Dates.

[Balboa]

Rolex uses a small percentage of platinum in both the rose gold and white gold alloys.

Mark

[emagni]

There's platinum in the rose gold so that the copper doesn't lose it's bond to the gold particular when exposed to chlorine. Not sure why you would go swimming with your rose gold rolex in a swimming pool but this would be one scenerio....over time. Rolex even mentioned about mixing platinum when making everose gold. Click on "Everose Gold" and you can see the video.

http://www.rolex.com/en/#/en/xml/ins...rfection/index

[bodybump]

Copper is added to make gold-colored alloys, but additional copper creates pink and rose tones the more copper, the deeper the effect.

[yemenmocha]

I was in one of my AD's today and the salesperson was selling someone a Rosegold President and he clearly said copper, like the others said above.

[C. Davidson]

I think that...

2.5% is the platinum content in everose gold. The added platinum stabilizes the rose color.

15% is the palladium content in the white gold made by Rolex. No rhodium plating!

[TheDeuce]

I love TRF - every time I log in I learn something new. In this case it was something about my own watch!

Not a lot of rose DD's out there though. I like the rarity. It's like being a small subset of the Rolex family.


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[jas55]

I think it states on the Rolex website that Rose gold is a mix of yellow gold with a touch of platinum.

If you watch the Everrose Gold video posted on the Rolex website, it mentions that they add a touch of platinum to their gold to create an everlasting 'Pink Gold'' colour that won't fade with time.

[Bisquitlips]

Originally Posted by Mosco

first time I am hearing about that... Always thought it was copper mixed with gold

X3!!

Never heard that the Rose Gold was a platinum mix.

In my experience it has always been a copper / gold alloy.

[padi56]

Rose gold is Rose gold no matter what the mix, and if assayed to say 18ct has the same scrap value as any other 18ct gold.Myself still have my grandfathers watch chain from the 1890s now that is a brilliant colour rose gold chain.

[unclesallie]

Originally Posted by padi56

Rose gold is Rose gold no matter what the mix, and if assayed to say 18ct has the same scrap value as any other 18ct gold.Myself still have my grandfathers watch chain from the 1890s now that is a brilliant colour rose gold chain.

i believe you're right, 18 karat is 75% gold, the rest an alloy to give the mixture strength(and in this case color)...but I thought there is something that Rolex does(platinum?) to make certain the color never changes??

[emagni]

Originally Posted by C. Davidson

I think that...

2.5% is the platinum content in everose gold. The added platinum stabilizes the rose color.

15% is the palladium content in the white gold made by Rolex. No rhodium plating!

I didn't know the white gold Rolex did not have rhodium plating. That makes sense since if it did, you would have to re-dip it every few years since it would slowly turn slightly yellow....like other white gold jewelry. That's pretty cool, I always thought that they just use more rhodium in their white gold.

Maybe we see things different but to me, the rose gold that Rolex produces is one of the prettiest.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by unclesallie

i believe you're right, 18 karat is 75% gold, the rest an alloy to give the mixture strength(and in this case color)...but I thought there is something that Rolex does(platinum?) to make certain the color never changes??

Well IMHO its pure marketing hype the value of the gold is whats its assayed too, nothing more nothing less.And my over 100 years rose gold chain has a very strong rose gold colour just like the day it was made.

[mck22]

I dont have an answer to your questions, but the watch looks great.

[BigHat]

I understand that copper is a key element of rose gold, but I've never seen an official posting of any of the Rolex amalgams to include WG and YG. If you have solid proof of the mixtures please post them.

I'm no chemist so I don't understand this "fix the alloy" concept either. Just did a search and see not one reference any rose gold mixture containing platinum. Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't in there in Rolex RG, just that no one ever seems to mention it being in there.

Most of the references I've seen cite gold, cooper and silver as the elements. The shading determined by the mix.

18 Karat Rose Gold
An alloy varying from 75% gold/25% copper to 75% gold/16% copper/9% silver alloy.

The higher the copper content, the redder the alloy will be. A 75% gold/16% copper/9% silver alloy will produce a pink gold, whereas a 75% gold/20.5% copper/4.5% silver alloy will produce a more red gold.

[Welshwatchman]

Price per oz in $ - Friday 14th

Copper - 0.17
Silver - 14
Palladium - 274
Gold - 947
Platinum - 1257
Rhodium - 1550

Now it makes sense why RG is more expensive than YG if there is 2.5% Pt content. Also WG should be marginally more expensive than RG if there is 15% content since Palladium is not less than 1/6th the price of Pt.

I wasn't aware that Rhodium was more expensive than Pt. In December 2008 Rhodium was a massive 600% more expensive than Pt at more than $10,000 per oz.

No wonder Rolex didn't coat their WG with it. It's far too bloody expensive.

[Damavand]

Thanks for all replies so far...It's been an education all over again !!

I tell you guys...Looking at the "ROSE GOLD" has such a calming & soothing affect besides looking great...!!!

Now, Only if I could get the JJ's blessing..?? That would make it all even feel better......

[TempoKing]

There is not such a thing as pure rose gold
Rose gold is made with the mixture of copper and gold (75AU/25CPr)

[Andad]

Hi TK,

That WAS random.