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11 April 2024, 12:12 AM | #31 | |
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11 April 2024, 12:57 AM | #33 |
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Aquanaut 5167a Water Resistance?
Geneva Seal -> PP Seal all over again
I still think this is a non-issue, if they’re confirming watches are actually being tested to 30m + some margin. The depth rating wars are nonsense. Who is deep diving with an Aquanaut or Nautilus? Exactly no one. |
11 April 2024, 01:11 AM | #34 |
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It was probably never 120 m to begin with. I suspect they chose 120 m because that’s 20 more than Rolex (not talking about Subs), and for years nobody paused to think about how they could achieve this with a thin crystal, and a rather flimsy crown (again, compared to Rolex).
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This is really bad form from Patek if the previously stated WR was not accurate. Yes practically speaking it makes little difference, but that’s not really the point and there’s an issue of trust here. Nautilus / Aquanaut models should have a high WR being the sport models, and besides it’s always nice to know it’s over engineered so less likely to fail.
Imagine telling a Speedmaster owner that his watch would explode on the moon. Makes no difference practically, but it defeats the premise of the watch. |
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This is so confusing to be honest.
If they said. 30 true meters for Aquanaut and Nautilus 7.5 true meters for all the dress watches. Ok. Maybe. But 30 across the board? And if it’s just them saying “Bah, our customers don’t swim with these things. Make the Aquanaut and Nautilus 30meters as well” Does the mean if you send you 5167 for a service. They test the seals to 30 meters and that’s it? Previously they’d test to 120 say, and if it failed at 90 they’d reseat seals or change seals until they got close again? This makes no sense.
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Quite scary to discover this. I used to take my 5167A and 5167R on holiday and keep them on in the pool. I never encountered any issues with water resistance. If they would have had a 30m rating, no way!
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I just want to know if this means that Patek is saying that the 5226G is now ok to swim with and even rec. scuba dive with (!!!) (if on a rubber strap, which hopefully Patek also makes available for their now “real” 30m water resistant watches).
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Looks like my Overseas DT with 150m water resistance is now the only holy trinity sports watch that I am totally comfortable taking swimming and boating. My RO Jumbo hasn’t even been near water yet (though on paper it has 50m WR).
Weird that as several pointed out here a watch that has literally aqua in the name is now 30m only. I hope we‘ll see some clarification from Patek on this eventually. |
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I think it’s ridiculous as an industry that a watch states it’s “30m” water resistance and that means it can be in the rain. If they state it can go down X# of meters then it should be able to. They should replace it with a more realistic scale:
Watch resistant from: 1 - sneeze 2 - light tears from picking a high bugger 3 - tears from a bad breakup 4 - tears after watching old yeller 5 - hand washing 6 - bath 7 - swimming 8 - crazy hot tub orgy 9 - wife pushing you off a boat after learning of crazy hot tub orgy 10 - snorkeling 11 - freediving 12 - scuba diving 13 - mobsters throwing you over a boat with concrete shoes 14 - going down with the titanic You’re welcome watch industry. |
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My AD has confirmed, I am able to swim in my 5370P. I won't but Patek will now stand behind any watch that is within the service period and is certified to 30m water resistance. My AD has also confirmed that the 5 year warranty despite what it says in the press release has been back dated to 1st May 2023. New documents will apparently be issued to reflect this.
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Good additional detail. I’ll start working on a rubber strap for my 5370P. Maybe I’ll wear it on a shallow dive just to explode heads in the forum. ;-) |
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Maybe they saving the higher water resistance for the new sports line diver watch that going to come out during October 2024... The "Cubitus"...??
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I don’t own a Patek yet, partly because I don’t like watches that are only “splash-proof.” The fact that Patek is certifying that its 30m rating truly means 30m has given me the peace of mind to start shopping for my first Patek.
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Now they have updated more text, it used to be inconsistent and said 120M in the description and 30M in the case specific part. Now it says 30M in both places:
Paying tribute to the 20th anniversary of the Aquanaut launched in 1997, the men’s model is now available in the new 42.2-millimeter “Jumbo” format. It features an embossed dial subtly gradated from black to night blue. Decidedly masculine looks for this incarnation of casually elegant chic framed by a delicately satin-finished bezel. The white-gold case is water resistant to 30 m and protects the self-winding caliber 26‑330 S C movement. |
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https://ijl.ca/blogs/the-jewel/3-thi...ter-resistance
They are not talking about depth.… Hmmmnnn!!! 30m? Immersion or merely splashing water? “ Rolex is the only brand I know of that actually uses the word "waterproof" for their watches, everyone else seems to use the words "water resistance". “ You should not take your watch swimming unless it says 10 bar or 100M or more in water resistance. Anything less and basically it can handle humidity, rain, or splashes of water while you're doing the dishes.” 5811 .. . Water-resistant to 30 m. Screw-down crown. Even with a screw down down it still does not say “waterproof.” |
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Totally agree, 30 true meters for aquanaut and natiulus would make sense. And then splash proof or 2m (meaning you can swim) with the other ones, if that's the case, would be way more clear.
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Every model is now true 30 meters ... my understanding .
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I mean AP distinguished 20m vs 30m vs 50m. Just odd for celestial to have the same rating as a 5167, surprised they didn't just rate them at 60m or something to separate them.
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I've seen someone snorkel with one.
Also consider RD1 whose claim to fame is a water resistant minute repeater at 20m of resistance.
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