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silence · 12 February 2010, 04:13 PM

Earl Camembert · 12 February 2010, 04:22 PM

Not much information and only one picture but I vote no.

silence · 12 February 2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

Not much information and only one picture but I vote no.

Why do you think so Earl... just curious? Is it the fonts? Letter alightments? Bezel? If you don't think it's real, is it a good copy?

Earl Camembert · 12 February 2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by silence

Why do you think so Earl... just curious? Is it the fonts? Letter alightments? Bezel? If you don't think it's real, is it a good copy?

I'm much more familiar with the DD but it looks to me like the second hand is not right. The watch looks like it has seen use so if it is indeed a fake it is a good fake. What is the serial number and model number supposed to be? Most no date submariners are not chronometers none supposedly this old are.

BASSETHOUNDS · 12 February 2010, 05:19 PM

Absolute fake IMHO , I believe dial should say : Swiss T-25 , do not think the hour markers are lined out around the luminous part.etc..
Wait till Steven sees this ...

blaine mattison · 12 February 2010, 06:20 PM

Please tell me the story on the big crown. i guess i don't know, hmmm.

the m? (200 m) and the ft? (660 ft) and the cornet? the 6's look from a meters
first open 6 red?? the equal sign?

the way you have posted it, makes me think i'm fix'in to go to school

cheers

Nicko · 12 February 2010, 06:30 PM

Here's a pic of an original from Sheartime....IMO the OP's 5510 is a fugazi!

blaine mattison · 12 February 2010, 06:33 PM

Nicko, do you think it's a 5510?????????????

Nicko · 12 February 2010, 06:33 PM

COSC on a 5510???

blaine mattison · 12 February 2010, 06:35 PM

is that a yes or no

remember there were others

Nicko · 12 February 2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blaine mattison

Nicko, do you think it's a 5510?????????????

Or a 6358...Once again photos from Sheartime...

Nicko · 12 February 2010, 06:38 PM

Look at the font...Look at the m in the depth rating...The tail on the m doesn't exist on the OP's watch and the font spacing appears to be off in the word SUBMARINER.... I'm no expert, but this looks very wrong to me.

blaine mattison · 12 February 2010, 06:39 PM

the dial format tells me, it is a 6538.

the second version??????

Nicko · 12 February 2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blaine mattison

the dial format tells me, it is a 6538.

You're right, but it's way off...IMO it's a bad fake. At least the dial.

blaine mattison · 12 February 2010, 06:45 PM

the way the post starts off, is making me DROOL

for the story

mcjp6 · 12 February 2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by silence

Ok... Experts, Is This Real Or Not? After a few opinions, I'll tell you the story

Don't get me wrong and no offense meant but if this is for sale somewhere it would be good if you can post the link for us to check it out rather than you just throw up pictures and we critique something which you may be offering for sale......you will probably get more help if we know what is going on.....

Nicko · 12 February 2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mcjp6

Don't get me wrong and no offense meant but if this is for sale somewhere it would be good if you can post the link for us to check it out rather than you just throw up pictures and we critique something which you may be offering for sale......

X2

Low men......

BASSETHOUNDS · 12 February 2010, 09:24 PM

Indeed , where is the story gone to ? Or was that it ?

Nicko · 12 February 2010, 10:07 PM

It is a bit on the rude side to ask questions about a piece and then disappear, maybe your name says it all....

silence · 13 February 2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Indeed , where is the story gone to ? Or was that it ?

The story ends like this...

There are shops that will do pretty good forgeries. Maybe not perfect but pretty good forgeries. There are dozens of these enterprises and some are so good that lacking provenance and papers, one should be extremely careful of lucky souls who come out of nowhere with banged up DRSDs.

Check one of these outfits out: ***URL DELETED AT REQUEST OF 3 MEMBERS*** Note: I deleted this and not the moderator.

And that's the rest of the story!

Alcan · 13 February 2010, 12:54 AM

Your thread is dangerously close to this:

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8936

4.FORUM IS NOT TO BE USED FOR :

(i) LINKS TO REPLICA, PERSONAL OR COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE WEBSITES or BLOGS, UNLESS WITH FULL PRIOR ADMIN PERMISSION.

silence · 13 February 2010, 01:18 AM

Thanks for that warning but I think it's very relevant for folks here to know that there are some very very good forgeries made from 100% real Rolex parts given that there are people who are selling $100K vintage watches. The point is --- one can easily "age" a forged watch and folks should know what they should be cautiously looking for. Without a reference to such existing forgery sites, folks will operate and opine without full information.

If mod wants to take this out, I'll happily delete but I think given this is the watch out furom, it would be wrong to do so... but that is just my single opinion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

Your thread is dangerously close to this:

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8936

4.FORUM IS NOT TO BE USED FOR :

(i) LINKS TO REPLICA, PERSONAL OR COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE WEBSITES or BLOGS, UNLESS WITH FULL PRIOR ADMIN PERMISSION.

chriseskew24 · 13 February 2010, 01:26 AM

Seems like you may own that company or be afliated this seems more like a advertisement then a warning IMHO Sorry but this thread gets two thumbs down from me and should be deleted

silence · 13 February 2010, 01:40 AM

First, it's not my company. I am a venture capitalist in Silicon Valley. I deal in companies that build and create value, not stealing value.

Second, it's short sighted to keep our eyes closed to the dangers around us and to see who the enemy is.

But it is a community and if people do not want to see where these fakes are coming from and who is making them and how they do it and what to watch out for, then I will delete it or rather I am requesting the moderator to delete it and if people are interested they can research on their own.

Dear Mr Moderator, please delete the URL of the prior post.

NOTE: I voluntarily deleted the URL in question.

Thanks,

S

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriseskew24

Seems like you may own that company or be afliated this seems more like a advertisement then a warning IMHO Sorry but this thread gets two thumbs down from me and should be deleted

Nicko · 13 February 2010, 01:41 AM

A crappy fake and a lame attempt at a sales pitch. Imo...

ESKO · 13 February 2010, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

Your thread is dangerously close to this:

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8936

4.FORUM IS NOT TO BE USED FOR :

(i) LINKS TO REPLICA, PERSONAL OR COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE WEBSITES or BLOGS, UNLESS WITH FULL PRIOR ADMIN PERMISSION.

Lets leave that decision to the mods

Tylden Reed · 13 February 2010, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alcan

Your thread is dangerously close to this:

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8936

4.FORUM IS NOT TO BE USED FOR :

(i) LINKS TO REPLICA, PERSONAL OR COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE WEBSITES or BLOGS, UNLESS WITH FULL PRIOR ADMIN PERMISSION.

Thanks for the link. I had not seen it before. I'll try to be a good boy! Tylden.

BASSETHOUNDS · 13 February 2010, 01:46 AM

Honestly , do you really think we need people to promote these sites here , there are many members here putting in a lot of their spare time to spot the fakes being sold to the unwitting punter . The last they want is having a "member" waste their time on spotting what is fake on a watch when the OP knows exactly what it is .
There are plenty of other sites dedicating to glorify those fakes . Personally I can only feel sorry for those people .

Welshwatchman · 13 February 2010, 02:12 AM

Closed.

12 February 2010, 04:13 PM	#1
silence "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Y Location: San Francisco Watch: PP 5085, Rolex SS Posts: 106	Ok... Experts, Is This Real Or Not? After a few opinions, I'll tell you the story

13 February 2010, 12:54 AM	#21
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Your thread is dangerously close to this: http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8936 4.FORUM IS NOT TO BE USED FOR : (i) LINKS TO REPLICA, PERSONAL OR COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE WEBSITES or BLOGS, UNLESS WITH FULL PRIOR ADMIN PERMISSION. __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

13 February 2010, 02:12 AM	#29
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	Closed. __________________ ..33

12 February 2010, 04:22 PM	#2
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	Not much information and only one picture but I vote no.

12 February 2010, 05:19 PM	#5
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Absolute fake IMHO , I believe dial should say : Swiss T-25 , do not think the hour markers are lined out around the luminous part.etc.. Wait till Steven sees this ...

12 February 2010, 06:20 PM	#6
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	Please tell me the story on the big crown. i guess i don't know, hmmm. the m? (200 m) and the ft? (660 ft) and the cornet? the 6's look from a meters first open 6 red?? the equal sign? the way you have posted it, makes me think i'm fix'in to go to school cheers

12 February 2010, 06:30 PM	#7
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Here's a pic of an original from Sheartime....IMO the OP's 5510 is a fugazi!

12 February 2010, 06:33 PM	#8
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	Nicko, do you think it's a 5510?????????????

12 February 2010, 06:35 PM	#10
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	is that a yes or no remember there were others

12 February 2010, 06:38 PM	#12
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Look at the font...Look at the m in the depth rating...The tail on the m doesn't exist on the OP's watch and the font spacing appears to be off in the word SUBMARINER.... I'm no expert, but this looks very wrong to me.

12 February 2010, 06:39 PM	#13
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	the dial format tells me, it is a 6538. the second version??????

12 February 2010, 06:45 PM	#15
blaine mattison "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: blaine Location: memphis Watch: my next find Posts: 1,060	the way the post starts off, is making me DROOL for the story

12 February 2010, 09:24 PM	#18
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Indeed , where is the story gone to ? Or was that it ?

12 February 2010, 10:07 PM	#19
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	It is a bit on the rude side to ask questions about a piece and then disappear, maybe your name says it all....

13 February 2010, 01:26 AM	#23
chriseskew24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Christopher Location: fort lauderdale Watch: Bunches Posts: 1,860	Seems like you may own that company or be afliated this seems more like a advertisement then a warning IMHO Sorry but this thread gets two thumbs down from me and should be deleted

13 February 2010, 01:41 AM	#25
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	A crappy fake and a lame attempt at a sales pitch. Imo...

13 February 2010, 01:46 AM	#28
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Honestly , do you really think we need people to promote these sites here , there are many members here putting in a lot of their spare time to spot the fakes being sold to the unwitting punter . The last they want is having a "member" waste their time on spotting what is fake on a watch when the OP knows exactly what it is . There are plenty of other sites dedicating to glorify those fakes . Personally I can only feel sorry for those people .

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