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wrxsti · 1 July 2010, 04:21 PM

I have already 2 hairline scratches on my 2 week old deepsea crystal! They are each about 1.5 cm long. I have owned a coke gmt door 2 years and a gmt IIc with no marks on those crystals.

I thought the deepsea was nearly bulletproof at this rate i would hate to see what happens in one year! Anyone know how much a new deepsea crystal costs?

Andy

ral · 1 July 2010, 04:26 PM

Sorry no idea on cost of a new crystal. It is awfully difficult to scratch sapphire crystal. Maybe the dome shape has something to do with it?

Watch Fan · 1 July 2010, 04:43 PM

Sorry to hear about the scratches. There is a product that is supposed to work well for removing scratches from crystals. I think it is called "polly watch". I think Otto Frei carries it, check it out. I have not used it myself, but have read several posts from others who have and liked it. Maybe worth a try.

Andad · 1 July 2010, 04:46 PM

IMO the DSSD thickness would take a bit of getting used to and this could cause a problem with proximity issues.
The polywatch works well on plastic crystals I'm not sure how good it is on sapphire.

Shade · 1 July 2010, 04:48 PM

The sapphire should be very very hard to scratch. I bumped my sapphire glass watches on almost anything.. it should only get scratched by other sapphire glass or diamonds as far as I know..

As for the crystal replacement, you should take it to RSC and ask them, meanwhile you can also complain regarding your crystal's situation.

wrxsti · 1 July 2010, 04:51 PM

Maybe it was my fiances engagement ring, that's it she's gotta go!

malaplace · 1 July 2010, 05:41 PM

Have you tried thoroughly cleaning it to make sure they are in fact scratches? It should be nearly impossible to scratch. My 8 year old Swiss Army has been beaten to hell all around the world, yet the sapphire crystal remains flawless. Unless, of course, it has crossed paths with your SO's engagement ring.....

BTW, I have a week old Deepsea as well. No scratches so far, and I don't expect any...

padi56 · 1 July 2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wrxsti

I have already 2 hairline scratches on my 2 week old deepsea crystal! They are each about 1.5 cm long. I have owned a coke gmt door 2 years and a gmt IIc with no marks on those crystals.

I thought the deepsea was nearly bulletproof at this rate i would hate to see what happens in one year! Anyone know how much a new deepsea crystal costs?

Andy

First make sure they are scratches would have thought the DSSD crystal to be quite expencive.Well truth be told now with modern abrasives yes you can remove scratches from sapphire crystals.And believe it or not they do scratch,you will need some good quality diamond paste. I have used 3 micron to remove the main scratch going across the scratch first,it takes a fair bit of elbow grease.Just a tiny bit on a lint free cotton clean cloth,then just a fine polish after with the quarter micron,and scratch will be gone,and good as new. Cost for the two tubes in the UK around £15-£20 expect far cheaper out of the UK.And far cheaper than a new crystal takes a bit of time,if scratch is very deep or badly chipped then crystal should be replaced.
Important to get the two tubes 3 micron to start and quarter micron to fine polish as new.

ral · 1 July 2010, 08:38 PM

@padi

They scratch? I have a old TAG (1996) and old Rolex (1994 or 1995)... scratches everywhere, the TAG even has a dent on the bezel and the crystal has never been replaced. AFAIK the Rolex crystal has not been replaced. The crystals on both watches are perfect.

padi56 · 1 July 2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ral

@padi

They scratch? I have a old TAG (1996) and old Rolex (1994 or 1995)... scratches everywhere, the TAG even has a dent on the bezel and the crystal has never been replaced. AFAIK the Rolex crystal has not been replaced. The crystals on both watches are perfect.

Don't doubt it but anything harder that the crystal will mark or scratch it thats common sense.My SD took a hell of a pasting while working as a diving instructor same for my Citizen both crystals are unmarked.

rolexsubdate · 1 July 2010, 11:29 PM

I have a 13yr old sub that I have banged around quite a bit ... not a single scratch that I can see ... looks as good as new....

karmatp · 1 July 2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

IMO the DSSD thickness would take a bit of getting used to and this could cause a problem with proximity issues.
The polywatch works well on plastic crystals I'm not sure how good it is on sapphire.

Exactly what I was thinking. The thing is twice as thick as the classic GMT's, it bound to bump into things.

chris russell · 2 July 2010, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Watch Fan

There is a product that is supposed to work well for removing scratches from crystals. I think it is called "polly watch".

The only thing that might polish scratches out of a sapphire crystal would be a mechanical polish with diamond polishing compound. It's likely that would be more costly than the replacement crystal.

chris russell · 2 July 2010, 01:00 AM

I was speculating that, since it's domed, maybe they treat it differently from the flat crystals. I'm almost sure the new flat crystals have AR coating on the inside only, other than the cyclops.

padi56 · 2 July 2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chris russell

The only thing that might polish scratches out of a sapphire crystal would be a mechanical polish with diamond polishing compound. It's likely that would be more costly than the replacement crystal.

Not true have done it on quite a few watches myself although the paste is quite expensive in the UK around £15-£20 for two tubes cheaper outside UK.All it needs is a bit of elbow grease even quite deep scratches can easily be removed and far cheaper than crystal replacement.

ral · 2 July 2010, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Don't doubt it but anything harder that the crystal will mark or scratch it thats common sense.My SD took a hell of a pasting while working as a diving instructor same for my Citizen both crystals are unmarked.

Thanks Padi.

MagedMS · 2 July 2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexsubdate

I have a 13yr old sub that I have banged around quite a bit ... not a single scratch that I can see ... looks as good as new....

X2..I used to have a 14 yrs old 16610 [w] Sub..not a single scratch too!!
I believe a sapphire crystal is made of a very hard materials that's why it is diamond polished in the factory..

..Here is a very informative article about how a sapphire crystal is made:
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2...e_crystals.pdf

tgoose1 · 2 July 2010, 03:52 AM

Diamond rings will do that every time.

wrxsti · 2 July 2010, 04:03 AM

I have cleaned it a few times and yes the scratches are still there

psv · 2 July 2010, 04:22 AM

Excuse me for asking, but did you buy it at an AD? I used my DSSD all over the place and I never manage to scratch the crystal (bezel yes). Are you 1000% sure it is not a fugazi?

α-ψ! · 2 July 2010, 05:32 AM

sorry but i think that saphire doesnt scratch!!only breaks.am i wrong??

kkroyal · 2 July 2010, 11:24 AM

I have a 20 year old Omega Seamaster and was in a car accident with it on scratched the watch all over except for the crystal… unbelievably tough.

KK

sirjohnbrian · 2 July 2010, 12:06 PM

I haven't had a scratch on my DSSD after a year and a half of diving. Then again, maybe I just cursed myself...

DS_Obsessed · 2 July 2010, 12:17 PM

Pics? I'd love to see it documented. No scratches on my DS, but a cautionary tale will sure have me minding my wrist.

1 July 2010, 04:21 PM	#1
wrxsti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 1,694	Hairline scratches on my dssd crystal I have already 2 hairline scratches on my 2 week old deepsea crystal! They are each about 1.5 cm long. I have owned a coke gmt door 2 years and a gmt IIc with no marks on those crystals. I thought the deepsea was nearly bulletproof at this rate i would hate to see what happens in one year! Anyone know how much a new deepsea crystal costs? Andy __________________ PP Geneva

1 July 2010, 04:46 PM	#4
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,980	IMO the DSSD thickness would take a bit of getting used to and this could cause a problem with proximity issues. The polywatch works well on plastic crystals I'm not sure how good it is on sapphire. __________________ E

1 July 2010, 04:51 PM	#6
wrxsti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 1,694	Maybe it was my fiances engagement ring, that's it she's gotta go! __________________ PP Geneva

2 July 2010, 01:00 AM	#14
chris russell Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Peterborough, ON Watch: your mouth. Posts: 1,023	Does anyone know for sure if the DS crystal has an AR coating on the outside? I was speculating that, since it's domed, maybe they treat it differently from the flat crystals. I'm almost sure the new flat crystals have AR coating on the inside only, other than the cyclops.

2 July 2010, 04:03 AM	#19
wrxsti "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 1,694	I have cleaned it a few times and yes the scratches are still there __________________ PP Geneva

1 July 2010, 04:26 PM	#2
ral Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 650	Sorry no idea on cost of a new crystal. It is awfully difficult to scratch sapphire crystal. Maybe the dome shape has something to do with it?

1 July 2010, 04:43 PM	#3
Watch Fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 676	Sorry to hear about the scratches. There is a product that is supposed to work well for removing scratches from crystals. I think it is called "polly watch". I think Otto Frei carries it, check it out. I have not used it myself, but have read several posts from others who have and liked it. Maybe worth a try.

1 July 2010, 04:48 PM	#5
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	The sapphire should be very very hard to scratch. I bumped my sapphire glass watches on almost anything.. it should only get scratched by other sapphire glass or diamonds as far as I know.. As for the crystal replacement, you should take it to RSC and ask them, meanwhile you can also complain regarding your crystal's situation.

1 July 2010, 05:41 PM	#7
malaplace "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: CA Posts: 36	Have you tried thoroughly cleaning it to make sure they are in fact scratches? It should be nearly impossible to scratch. My 8 year old Swiss Army has been beaten to hell all around the world, yet the sapphire crystal remains flawless. Unless, of course, it has crossed paths with your SO's engagement ring..... BTW, I have a week old Deepsea as well. No scratches so far, and I don't expect any...

1 July 2010, 08:38 PM	#9
ral Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 650	@padi They scratch? I have a old TAG (1996) and old Rolex (1994 or 1995)... scratches everywhere, the TAG even has a dent on the bezel and the crystal has never been replaced. AFAIK the Rolex crystal has not been replaced. The crystals on both watches are perfect.

1 July 2010, 11:29 PM	#11
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	I have a 13yr old sub that I have banged around quite a bit ... not a single scratch that I can see ... looks as good as new....

2 July 2010, 03:52 AM	#18
tgoose1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 666	Diamond rings will do that every time.

2 July 2010, 04:22 AM	#20
psv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North America Posts: 11,066	Excuse me for asking, but did you buy it at an AD? I used my DSSD all over the place and I never manage to scratch the crystal (bezel yes). Are you 1000% sure it is not a fugazi?

2 July 2010, 05:32 AM	#21
α-ψ! "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: tolis Location: athens Watch: daytona tt Posts: 194	sorry but i think that saphire doesnt scratch!!only breaks.am i wrong??

2 July 2010, 11:24 AM	#22
kkroyal Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Kevin Location: Ontario Canada Watch: DSSD Posts: 33	I have a 20 year old Omega Seamaster and was in a car accident with it on scratched the watch all over except for the crystal… unbelievably tough. KK

2 July 2010, 12:06 PM	#23
sirjohnbrian "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PA Watch: 'chu lookin' at??? Posts: 964	I haven't had a scratch on my DSSD after a year and a half of diving. Then again, maybe I just cursed myself... __________________ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." Mark Twain "Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." Homer Simpson SS Midsize DJ 68274 "L" TT Jubilee DJ 116233 "Z" Sea Dweller DS 116660 "V" SS White Dial Daytona "V"

2 July 2010, 12:17 PM	#24
DS_Obsessed "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: J Location: Texas Watch: 116660 V Posts: 438	Pics? I'd love to see it documented. No scratches on my DS, but a cautionary tale will sure have me minding my wrist. __________________ _______________________________ Currently wearing : 116000 V / 116660 V / PAM 292 / AP royal Oak Offshore Safari / Royal Oak Offshore Volcano / Tudor heritage / 116520 “For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack”

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