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Han · 4 April 2007, 03:29 PM

Hi everyone,

I have heard that watchwinders are not recommended for Rolex (or any other mechanical) watches. The reason has something to do with premature breakdown in the lubricating oil.

Is the above statement true? Do you use winders for your Rolexes?
Are there any articles regarding watchwinders?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Regards,
Han

pcarson · 4 April 2007, 04:20 PM

Here is what's said in Rolex Oyster booklets:-

"The perpetual rotor is an innovation...patented by Rolex in 1931. ...a semi-circular rotor...winds the main spring. Once the optimum tension is reached, a special slip clutch prevents overwinding...and has been generally adopted throughout the watch making industry."

So that's what Rolex says. My understanding is that all of the above applies after about 1972 when bidirectional rotors were introduced to most movements. Prior to 1972 I guess the answer is the same but the question is different ie "in which direction to set the winder for my Rolex?" For moderm Rolexes the answer is; either way or both. As for premature wear, it's hard to imagine that such a robust watch will "wear out" from being wound since being wound is what the perpetual movement is designed to do. I imagine you need to keep up servicing ever 4-5 years as always, at which time lubricants are removed and all replaced. This is true with or without winders.

I'm sure much more erudite horologists will be along soon but this gives you something to be going on with from a beginner.

padi56 · 4 April 2007, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Han

Hi everyone,

I have heard that watch-winders are not recommended for Rolex (or any other mechanical) watches. The reason has something to do with premature breakdown in the lubricating oil.

Is the above statement true? Do you use winders for your Rolexes?
Are there any articles regarding watchwinders?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Regards,
Han

Absolute and utter rubbish,a watch-winder only simulates what would naturally happen if you was wearing your watch.And quite a few guys wear there watches 24/7,you cannot,over-wind any automatic watch.And if there was like you say any premature breakdown in the lubricating oil.Dont you think this would still apply if you was wearing your watch,and winding it by the gravity,and rotor swings,with your arm movements.Thats how all auto watches work,whether bi-directional or just one way winding rotors.In-fact IMO you would get more rotor winds by wearing it,that say your average programed watchwinder over 24 hours.

Prince · 4 April 2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Han

Hi everyone,
I have heard that watchwinders are not recommended for Rolex (or any other mechanical) watches. The reason has something to do with premature breakdown in the lubricating oil.
Is the above statement true? Do you use winders for your Rolexes?
Are there any articles regarding watchwinders?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Regards,
Han

Hi Han,

Been using this baby of a winder for over a year now, with absolutely NO ill effects.

As Peter so aptly put it: "Absolute and utter rubbish"!!!

watchnut · 5 April 2007, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Han

Hi everyone,

I have heard that watchwinders are not recommended for Rolex (or any other mechanical) watches. The reason has something to do with premature breakdown in the lubricating oil.

Is the above statement true? Do you use winders for your Rolexes?
Are there any articles regarding watchwinders?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Regards,
Han

As others have said on here, I think that's BS. I use a winder and feel better about it than if the watch was sitting idle for weeks at a time and I had to worry about remembering to wind it every so often. Especially since I'm having more and more "senior moments".

Han · 5 April 2007, 03:44 PM

Thanks for your thoughts guys.

Allan, ... wow that's an awesome collection you've got there!

Regards,
Han

nko51 · 5 April 2007, 09:12 PM

I am more concerned about congealing of oils when not functional, rather than on a watchwinder. All mine are on watchwinders.

wildsidemtb · 5 April 2007, 09:18 PM

Do you have to put your roller on a winder. I have one I wear 24/7 and one I wear rarely should it be on a winder?

Mark

nko51 · 5 April 2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wildsidemtb

Do you have to put your roller on a winder. I have one I wear 24/7 and one I wear rarely should it be on a winder?

Mark

You don't have to, unless it sits for months, then I would recommend it.

padi56 · 5 April 2007, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nko51

I am more concerned about congealing of oils when not functional, rather than on a watchwinder. All mine are on watchwinders.

Look todays modern synthetic oils do not congeal,and absolutely no harm will come to your Rolex or any other watch.Now all you have to do if not wearing for a few weeks or longer.Is just a small wind say once a month,to keep movement in tip top shape.And the very very very small amount of oil less that one eye drop,around the moving parts,and thats all is needed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildsidemtb

Do you have to put your roller on a winder. I have one I wear 24/7 and one I wear rarely should it be on a winder?

Mark

The short answer is no,and you don't have to wear your Rolex 24/7 or any other automatic watch to keep it powered.Just a average or around 12 hours normal wear a day will do.

5 April 2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

The short answer is no,and you don't have to wear your Rolex 24/7 or any other automatic watch to keep it powered.Just a average or around 12 hours normal wear a day will do.

Unless your name is Ed.

Prince · 5 April 2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Han

...Allan, ... wow that's an awesome collection you've got there!
Regards,
Han

Thanks, Han.

Rockrolex · 5 April 2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalon

Unless your name is Ed.

That one was too subtle for me, Al. Are you referriing to the fact that I keep all my watches on winders because I hate to have to set all the complications each time they stop?

If so, you are 100% correct.

5 April 2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

That one was too subtle for me, Al. Are you referriing to the fact that I keep all my watches on winders because I hate to have to set all the complications each time they stop?

If so, you are 100% correct.

Man, things are sad when we have to explain the old running jokes.....

I was referring to your well known lack of movement/activity through the day.

Rockrolex · 5 April 2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Avalon

Man, things are sad when we have to explain the old running jokes.....

I was referring to your well known lack of movement/activity through the day.

OMG, I had completely forgotten that little throw away. It's either the senior moment thing, or it's another outbreak of CRAFT syndrome popping up again.

Prince · 5 April 2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

...or it's another outbreak of CRAFT syndrome popping up again.

I suffer from that syndrome myself...now, what exactly was I just talking about?!?

Ragu · 6 April 2007, 12:13 AM

Prince,
are all the times correct on all 4 of your beautiful watches in you automatic winder? Isn't the purpose of the winder to keep em in time?

Just wondering...

Ragu · 6 April 2007, 12:15 AM

I see.....
turn the crowns all the same and "bingo" the corrrect time on all four.

Prince · 6 April 2007, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragu

Prince,
are all the times correct on all 4 of your beautiful watches in you automatic winder? Isn't the purpose of the winder to keep em in time?
Just wondering...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragu

I see.....
turn the crowns all the same and "bingo" the corrrect time on all four.

LOL - I love it when people figure stuff out on their own!!!

Thanks for the nice comment about my collection, Ragu!

JJ Irani · 6 April 2007, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

LOL - I love it when people figure stuff out on their own!!!

Thanks for the nice comment about my collection, Ragu!

In all fairness, it is a beautiful, diversified and varied 'bling-bling' collection, Allan!!

Prince · 6 April 2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

In all fairness, it is a beautiful, diversified and varied 'bling-bling' collection, Allan!!

Thank you, JJ. But I hardly consider steel & gold "bling". Now, if I had tarted them up with diamonds, rubies and perhaps a leopard dial, well then...

But these babies are all just standard Rolex fare. I merely happen to think that a steel & gold Rolex is a more appropriate choice for me. One can be worn successfully in many more situations than an all SS watch could be, IMHO. I have never been a big all-SS fan - ever. But that's just me.

Anyway, a lot of words just to say I don't consider straight steel & gold "bling"...

Ragu · 6 April 2007, 01:51 PM

Prince,
you sure are a "two tone" kind of guy...

Prince · 6 April 2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragu

Prince,
you sure are a "two tone" kind of guy...

Yep!

4 April 2007, 03:29 PM	#1
Han Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 55	Rolex and watchwinder Hi everyone, I have heard that watchwinders are not recommended for Rolex (or any other mechanical) watches. The reason has something to do with premature breakdown in the lubricating oil. Is the above statement true? Do you use winders for your Rolexes? Are there any articles regarding watchwinders? Thanks in advance for your thoughts. Regards, Han

4 April 2007, 04:20 PM	#2
pcarson Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Peter Carson Location: Australia Watch: 16610 Sub Date Posts: 265	Here is what's said in Rolex Oyster booklets:- "The perpetual rotor is an innovation...patented by Rolex in 1931. ...a semi-circular rotor...winds the main spring. Once the optimum tension is reached, a special slip clutch prevents overwinding...and has been generally adopted throughout the watch making industry." So that's what Rolex says. My understanding is that all of the above applies after about 1972 when bidirectional rotors were introduced to most movements. Prior to 1972 I guess the answer is the same but the question is different ie "in which direction to set the winder for my Rolex?" For moderm Rolexes the answer is; either way or both. As for premature wear, it's hard to imagine that such a robust watch will "wear out" from being wound since being wound is what the perpetual movement is designed to do. I imagine you need to keep up servicing ever 4-5 years as always, at which time lubricants are removed and all replaced. This is true with or without winders. I'm sure much more erudite horologists will be along soon but this gives you something to be going on with from a beginner. Last edited by pcarson; 4 April 2007 at 10:21 PM.. Reason: typo (as always)

5 April 2007, 09:12 PM	#7
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	I am more concerned about congealing of oils when not functional, rather than on a watchwinder. All mine are on watchwinders. __________________

6 April 2007, 12:13 AM	#17
Ragu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Ragu Sauce Location: Southern, FL Watch: the Sauce ;) Posts: 781	Prince, are all the times correct on all 4 of your beautiful watches in you automatic winder? Isn't the purpose of the winder to keep em in time? Just wondering... __________________ "Waiting is so time consuming" -- Unknown Proud Member #2391

6 April 2007, 12:15 AM	#18
Ragu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Ragu Sauce Location: Southern, FL Watch: the Sauce ;) Posts: 781	I see..... turn the crowns all the same and "bingo" the corrrect time on all four. __________________ "Waiting is so time consuming" -- Unknown Proud Member #2391

5 April 2007, 03:44 PM	#6
Han Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 55	Thanks for your thoughts guys. Allan, ... wow that's an awesome collection you've got there! Regards, Han

5 April 2007, 09:18 PM	#8
wildsidemtb Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Watch: Sea Dweller, 5512 Posts: 602	Do you have to put your roller on a winder. I have one I wear 24/7 and one I wear rarely should it be on a winder? Mark

6 April 2007, 01:51 PM	#22
Ragu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Real Name: Ragu Sauce Location: Southern, FL Watch: the Sauce ;) Posts: 781	Prince, you sure are a "two tone" kind of guy... __________________ "Waiting is so time consuming" -- Unknown Proud Member #2391

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