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akshay · 1 October 2010, 10:51 AM

I know a bunch of them who have like 10-15 new ones every week, I sometimes wonder where they find them? Maybe I'd get better prices if I cut out the middleman.

Poohsan · 1 October 2010, 11:11 AM

I wish i knew.... but I just dont have the time or money.... if I did find out.

Pep04 · 1 October 2010, 11:17 AM

I think they have jewelry stores or have name recognition where people know where to go sell an old Rolex.

They will NEVER tell you the secret. If they did, there would be 10 times as many people buying up these jewels and by default, driving the prices up.

sakuraba · 1 October 2010, 11:20 AM

I see it as the veteran sellers doing us a service.

There's no way I would be able to spot small inconsistencies better than say, Jacek or Steve Mulholland. I'd gladly pay the middleman premium if it means I'm getting a watch that's been through their discerning eyes.

Just my

akshay · 1 October 2010, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakuraba

I see it as the veteran sellers doing us a service.

There's no way I would be able to spot small inconsistencies better than say, Jacek or Steve Mulholland. I'd gladly pay the middleman premium if it means I'm getting a watch that's been through their discerning eyes.

Just my

Good point. Good point.

Michael M. · 1 October 2010, 11:31 AM

Most dealers buy through wholesale contacts, I am very good friends with one. For instance, my wholesale contact sold an authentic 5514 comex to a dealer for 15k.

sakuraba · 1 October 2010, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by akshay

Good point. Good point.

Thank you, kabayan!

fusionstorm · 1 October 2010, 11:33 AM

They typically have relationships with ADs, independent jewelers and even pawn shops to get their stock.

Yazo · 1 October 2010, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakuraba

I see it as the veteran sellers doing us a service.

There's no way I would be able to spot small inconsistencies better than say, Jacek or Steve Mulholland. I'd gladly pay the middleman premium if it means I'm getting a watch that's been through their discerning eyes.

Just my

Spot on Jib!

greekbum · 1 October 2010, 11:58 PM

They have a relationship with anybody who has *traffic* of watches. Estates,Lawyers,Pawn shops,watch battery repair places,AD's etc etc and the list goes on and on. Most important they are known to pay more than others with no BS involved as they will get the call 1st.

SLS · 2 October 2010, 12:04 AM

There are certainly different levels of vintage sellers, and most usually deal in more than just Rolex. There are the sellers that travel around the world that buy the primo pieces, and usually have a client list that they can flip that special piece to within a couple of days/weeks. There are also the guys who buy used from Rolex AD's when an AD takes a pre-owned Rolex in on trade, these guys do the least amount of work and often have gems fall in their lap! Finally there are the guys who are actively searching the area for vintage pieces.
Scott

Jacek · 5 October 2010, 10:08 AM

Basically I work 10-12 hours a day online, on the phone and devote my life to searching for watches. I'm on the Ipad before I go to sleep and wake up each morning to the iphone responding to emails and searching. Sometimes I get stuff for great prices but most of the time I am competing with many many dealers and have to pay up for my pieces. I make 5% -10% in this ultra competitive market. I also travel to shows, I go to shops, estate sales, etc. I also travel to Europe, Japan, Australia, Hong Kong etc. Don't get me wrong it's fun, but also pretty stressful and competitive. I love getting you guys the best pieces I can find for great prices.

Frogman4me · 5 October 2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacek

Basically I work 10-12 hours a day online, on the phone and devote my life to searching for watches. I'm on the Ipad before I go to sleep and wake up each morning to the iphone responding to emails and searching. Sometimes I get stuff for great prices but most of the time I am competing with many many dealers and have to pay up for my pieces. I make 5% -10% in this ultra competitive market. I also travel to shows, I go to shops, estate sales, etc. I also travel to Europe, Japan, Australia, Hong Kong etc. Don't get me wrong it's fun, but also pretty stressful and competitive. I love getting you guys the best pieces I can find for great prices.

Thank you for sharing

watchcrank · 5 October 2010, 11:33 PM

A dealer who has done his homework is the retail customers best source. Most have learned by spending lots of $$ to get where they are. Jacek, Steve and others spend all their time on this as it's thier business. But sometimes luck comes the observant ones way :-)

R1@160@alltimes · 6 October 2010, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacek

Basically I work 10-12 hours a day online, on the phone and devote my life to searching for watches. I'm on the Ipad before I go to sleep and wake up each morning to the iphone responding to emails and searching. Sometimes I get stuff for great prices but most of the time I am competing with many many dealers and have to pay up for my pieces. I make 5% -10% in this ultra competitive market. I also travel to shows, I go to shops, estate sales, etc. I also travel to Europe, Japan, Australia, Hong Kong etc. Don't get me wrong it's fun, but also pretty stressful and competitive. I love getting you guys the best pieces I can find for great prices.

Thanks letting peek into the life of a vintage dealer.

1 October 2010, 10:51 AM	#1
akshay Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 140	Where do vintage Rolex sellers find the watches? I know a bunch of them who have like 10-15 new ones every week, I sometimes wonder where they find them? Maybe I'd get better prices if I cut out the middleman.

1 October 2010, 11:11 AM	#2
Poohsan "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Arron Location: phoenix, AZ Watch: GMT 1675 Posts: 764	I wish i knew.... but I just dont have the time or money.... if I did find out. __________________ 1680, 1675, 116610LN, GMT Master II, Explorer II, Tudor Big Block 79170

1 October 2010, 11:17 AM	#3
Pep04 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Pep Location: Miami Watch: GMTIIc, Pam320 Posts: 2,773	I think they have jewelry stores or have name recognition where people know where to go sell an old Rolex. They will NEVER tell you the secret. If they did, there would be 10 times as many people buying up these jewels and by default, driving the prices up. __________________ "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Franklin Prick #8

1 October 2010, 11:20 AM	#4
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	I see it as the veteran sellers doing us a service. There's no way I would be able to spot small inconsistencies better than say, Jacek or Steve Mulholland. I'd gladly pay the middleman premium if it means I'm getting a watch that's been through their discerning eyes. Just my __________________ F 14000 AirKing black F 16710 GMT Pepsi F 16570 Explorer II white T 16600 SD D 16610 LV "fine quality is remembered long after the pain of spending money" -Steve Mulholland

1 October 2010, 11:33 AM	#8
fusionstorm "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Piedmont, CA Watch: various vintage Posts: 2,272	They typically have relationships with ADs, independent jewelers and even pawn shops to get their stock. __________________ 1680 MK II 2.2M (my daily); 1655 MK IV 8.1M (my 1st vintage); 16660 x 4 - 8.0M spider & matte 7.4M, 8.0M, 8.0M; 16610LV F MK I/MK I; 116528 Z; 14060 M COSC; Tudor 75090 Gone.....never forgotten: 14000 F, 14060 V COSC, PAM 048, 16623 F, 1680 MK V 3.1M, 16800 matte 8.3M & 1655 MK IV 7.4M

1 October 2010, 11:31 AM	#6
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Most dealers buy through wholesale contacts, I am very good friends with one. For instance, my wholesale contact sold an authentic 5514 comex to a dealer for 15k.

1 October 2010, 11:58 PM	#10
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,415	They have a relationship with anybody who has traffic of watches. Estates,Lawyers,Pawn shops,watch battery repair places,AD's etc etc and the list goes on and on. Most important they are known to pay more than others with no BS involved as they will get the call 1st. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

2 October 2010, 12:04 AM	#11
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	There are certainly different levels of vintage sellers, and most usually deal in more than just Rolex. There are the sellers that travel around the world that buy the primo pieces, and usually have a client list that they can flip that special piece to within a couple of days/weeks. There are also the guys who buy used from Rolex AD's when an AD takes a pre-owned Rolex in on trade, these guys do the least amount of work and often have gems fall in their lap! Finally there are the guys who are actively searching the area for vintage pieces. Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

5 October 2010, 10:08 AM	#12
Jacek 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 15,981	Basically I work 10-12 hours a day online, on the phone and devote my life to searching for watches. I'm on the Ipad before I go to sleep and wake up each morning to the iphone responding to emails and searching. Sometimes I get stuff for great prices but most of the time I am competing with many many dealers and have to pay up for my pieces. I make 5% -10% in this ultra competitive market. I also travel to shows, I go to shops, estate sales, etc. I also travel to Europe, Japan, Australia, Hong Kong etc. Don't get me wrong it's fun, but also pretty stressful and competitive. I love getting you guys the best pieces I can find for great prices.

5 October 2010, 11:33 PM	#14
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,661	A dealer who has done his homework is the retail customers best source. Most have learned by spending lots of $$ to get where they are. Jacek, Steve and others spend all their time on this as it's thier business. But sometimes luck comes the observant ones way :-)

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