what is a 4 line submariner no date

[hoops10]

Can someone please tell me what is a 4 liner in relationship to this watch. I read a post where someone stated they have a Sub no date and would like to get a "4 liner". Thank you.

[Badfish179]

A four liner no-date is a Submariner that is COSC certified. The bottom of the dial has four lines of text; thus, the "four liner". The first line says Submariner, the second is the depth rating, the third Superlative Chronometer and the fourth officialy certified.

The two liner is non cosc certified so it just says submariner and has the depth rating. So only two lines of text: thus, "Two liner".

[sleddog]

That was me that said that hoops and badfish has your answer!!
These COSC certified (4 liner) no-date Subs started in the Z series..Before that there were only 2 lines of text on the dial...

Hope that clears things up!

[hoops10]

Thank you for the clarification. Is one any better than the other? Also are they the same size and is the 4 liner still in production? Thank you very much.

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by hoops10

Thank you for the clarification. Is one any better than the other? Also are they the same size and is the 4 liner still in production? Thank you very much.

The 4 liner is still in production for now and is the last of the old style cases and aluminum bezel inserts left.....
Both are exactly the same in size and movement with the only difference being the dial text (and the 4 liner was COSC certified)!!
The 2 line Sub was never COSC certified but is worthy of this same distinction..

[hoops10]

Thank you very much Rob and all, I really appreciate it. I was going back and forth between the Sub no date and the SS Daytona. I was informed that the Daytona should arrive at the end of the month. AD told me if I change my mind she can always get me the Sub no date. I do not believe that she had a 4 liner in stock. Just curious what is the difference in the dial text? While I have always wanted a SS Daytona, still wrapping my head around the MSRP ofthe watch. Thank you again.

[mike]

4 line.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by sleddog

The 4 liner is still in production for now and is the last of the old style cases and aluminum bezel inserts left.....
Both are exactly the same in size and movement with the only difference being the dial text (and the 4 liner was COSC certified)!!
The 2 line Sub was never COSC certified but is worthy of this same distinction..

Tsk! Tsk! Rob,

Forgotten something??

[Aspirin]

I heard say that 2 liner (14060) was installed the Rolex in-house's movement, but the 4 liner (14060M COSC) was installed the OEM movement, so that Rolex take it to COSC for certification, is that true? But... if it's truth, that's mean all other models of Rolex which has COSC on the dial are OEM movement?

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Tsk! Tsk! Rob,

Forgotten something??

A picture???

[Andad]

I was thinking along the lines of an 'engraved 'Rolex' rehaute' Rob.

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by directioneng

I'm not following you?

Can you explain your post a bit more??

I could try.........Where have I gone wrong or what's missing?

I was only talking about the 14060m.....

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Aspirin

I heard say that 2 liner (14060) was installed the Rolex in-house's movement, but the 4 liner (14060M COSC) was installed the OEM movement, so that Rolex take it to COSC for certification, is that true? But... if it's truth, that's mean all other models of Rolex which has COSC on the dial are OEM movement?

Can you explain your post. I don't understand.

In-house is the same as OEM?

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by directioneng

I was thinking along the lines of an 'engraved 'Rolex' rehaute' Rob.

Well of course....How could I forget!!
Which also started in the Z series 4 line run of the 14060m....
Thanks for bringing that up Eddie..

[Andad]

Originally Posted by sleddog

I could try.........Where have I gone wrong or what's missing?

I was only talking about the 14060m.....

I was talking to Aspirin Rob - now I have a headache.

[sleddog]

Originally Posted by directioneng

I was talking to Aspirin Rob - now I have a headache.

I'll take a step back then!!!

[Eric88]

Don't forget the 4-line vintage model 5512

[Aspirin]

Originally Posted by directioneng

Can you explain your post. I don't understand.

In-house is the same as OEM?

Let get straight like this, 14060 2 liner was installed an Rolex in-house(self-made) movement, so Rolex have the confidence about it accuracy and quality, then need no to send the movement to COSC for certification. By the way, 14060M 4 liner was installed an OEM product (the movement), so Rolex send the OEM movement to COSC for further certification and marked the “Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified” on the dial. As all we know about 99% Rolex have the “Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified” marked on the dial nowadays. So what I’m thinking is if this is the truth, is that mean 99% Rolex watches was installed an OEM movement?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by hoops10

Can someone please tell me what is a 4 liner in relationship to this watch. I read a post where someone stated they have a Sub no date and would like to get a "4 liner". Thank you.

Its exactly the same as any other 14060m except for a few fonts that say now
Superlative Chronometer Officially Certified.The term "Superlative Chronometer" is a now trademark of Rolex. The addition of the word "Superlative" in front of the official designation of Chronometer, is merely a Rolex marketing ploy angle, to give it a more distinguished sound to the chronometer status of their products. As all watches that have earned the privilege of bearing the official Swiss designation of Chronometer have to meet the exact same C.O.S.C. standards. Any words added before or after the official designation of Chronometer are merely pure marketing , which Rolex sometimes can be very good at.There are not any different grades or levels of chronometer certification for movements of the same size,but Rolex would like you to think there is.Likewise the wording Certified Chronometer also means nothing different than just plain Chronometer. It is just a redundant phrase word,since getting Chronometer status is the certification, the certified is just more pure marketing just to make it sound better.