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p_mcgee · 7 February 2011, 02:44 PM

Even if the authenticity of the "spy photos" is in dispute, the Explorer II update seems like a foregone conclusion. Maxi dial is inevitable, orange 24 hour hand is probable. What is the likelihood of the new Explorer having a supercase with thicker lugs (similar to the GMT2C and the SubC)?

The watch does not appear to have a supercase in the preview photos. I wouldn't think bulking up an "explorers" watch is really in line with its original purpose. Wouldn't that increase the likelihood of banging it on cave walls?

However, the Explorer II and the GMT II 16710 pretty much share the same case, so I wonder if they give the new model a super size case in line with the GMT2C.

Any feedback from the pros here would be appreciated. I'm not a supercase fan, so if they bulk up the case I plan to snap up the discontinued model.

Speed · 7 February 2011, 02:57 PM

I agree that the lifted videos / still did NOT make the Expy II look supercased.

However, no way to know for sure until March!

The Sub is supercased...and one could argue you don't want more metal to bang on the coral!!

nickriebe · 8 February 2011, 02:14 PM

I dont know why they would ruin it and put it in a super case... I think the expy II is just fine the way it is!

RW16610 · 8 February 2011, 02:18 PM

I guess only time will tell for sure. For me personally would not be shocked if it did end up with a super case. One advantage to the less refined case is for the long run against material loss from re finishing. Can not wait to see what Rolex does with it in the end

Strut99GT · 8 February 2011, 02:25 PM

I think chances are greater than 50% it will come with the supercase, strictly for economies of scale. There is no reason to perpetuate an old style when all the new watches have moved toward a new design. I'm not sure if the dimensions between the old sub and current exp II were identical, but they were certainly close.

tomchicago · 9 February 2011, 02:12 AM

i would say 80%+ probability it gets maxi cased

dalip · 9 February 2011, 02:26 AM

Heavier, bulkier watches are 'now'....would make sense.

MortgageGuy · 9 February 2011, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dalip

Heavier, bulkier watches are 'now'....would make sense.

I agree, I think it will be "supersized" too

spuds · 9 February 2011, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by dalip

Heavier, bulkier watches are 'now'....would make sense.

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Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

I agree, I think it will be "supersized" too

Agreed....

dalip · 9 February 2011, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MortgageGuy

I agree, I think it will be "supersized" too

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Originally Posted by spuds

Agreed....

Case in point with you Dan and you're reaction to the 16610LV...in fact after wearing my GMT2C for a week my Pepsi feels like a feather...but it 'looks' like it has more weight.

Cru Jones · 9 February 2011, 02:48 AM

well, the 39mm explorer wasn't supersized....

but, every other sport model was, so, explorer ii will be, too. no doubt.

i'm not for it, but, you can't fight "progress".

RRY · 9 February 2011, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Cru Jones

well, the 39mm explorer wasn't supersized....

but, every other sport model was, so, explorer ii will be, too. no doubt.

i'm not for it, but, you can't fight "progress".

Wasn't the 39mm explorer supersized from 36mm? I'd like to see the new exp ii keep the same case, but the 39mm explorer precedent gives me a reason to worry.

Puffy · 9 February 2011, 03:19 AM

wearing mine today, i wouldn't change a thing about it, perfect just the way it is

Mendota · 9 February 2011, 03:22 AM

It for sure will have the new style bracelet and clasp. My AD confirmed that for me a year and a half ago, and he said although Rolex has been tight lipped on everything else, what they have indeed shared is that every model in the professional lineups will have the updated bracelets and clasps within the next few years. Seems like this is one of the last ones to receive it.

Swearengen · 9 February 2011, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Puffy

wearing mine today, i wouldn't change a thing about it, perfect just the way it is

I have to agree with you, as I am wearing my Polar today

Cru Jones · 9 February 2011, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RRY

Wasn't the 39mm explorer supersized from 36mm? I'd like to see the new exp ii keep the same case, but the 39mm explorer precedent gives me a reason to worry.

i was speaking about the case being supersized to the supercase, sorry. the 39mm explorer still has lugs that blend with the bracelet....

Dr. Robert · 9 February 2011, 03:57 AM

Fashion, trends, the bigger watches are part of the classics now...i.e. Panerai......Rolex has made a bigger sub, sea-dweller/deep sea, datejust, day-date, yachtmaster & explorer.........what do they have left????? Daytona, expl. 2, air-king????
On the women's side...there's a 31mm lady datejust & the 36mm datejust is now on the women's side on the Rolex website.
Rolex has done it in their subtle way......like Porsche & Mercedes, their styles are evolutionary, not revolutionary.
It's a free watch world to each his/her own........as a card carrying curmudgeon, I say bah humbug, I prefer the watches pre-enlargement!

7 February 2011, 02:44 PM	#1
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	Supercase on Basel Explorer II? Even if the authenticity of the "spy photos" is in dispute, the Explorer II update seems like a foregone conclusion. Maxi dial is inevitable, orange 24 hour hand is probable. What is the likelihood of the new Explorer having a supercase with thicker lugs (similar to the GMT2C and the SubC)? The watch does not appear to have a supercase in the preview photos. I wouldn't think bulking up an "explorers" watch is really in line with its original purpose. Wouldn't that increase the likelihood of banging it on cave walls? However, the Explorer II and the GMT II 16710 pretty much share the same case, so I wonder if they give the new model a super size case in line with the GMT2C. Any feedback from the pros here would be appreciated. I'm not a supercase fan, so if they bulk up the case I plan to snap up the discontinued model.

8 February 2011, 02:14 PM	#3
nickriebe "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Nick Location: 3026'23N 8638'41W Watch: out for pirates! Posts: 692	I dont know why they would ruin it and put it in a super case... I think the expy II is just fine the way it is! __________________ ~Nick Riebe~

9 February 2011, 02:26 AM	#7
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	Heavier, bulkier watches are 'now'....would make sense. __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

9 February 2011, 03:19 AM	#13
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	wearing mine today, i wouldn't change a thing about it, perfect just the way it is __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

9 February 2011, 03:57 AM	#17
Dr. Robert 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: U.S.A. Watch: 1655 Posts: 62,125	Fashion, trends, the bigger watches are part of the classics now...i.e. Panerai......Rolex has made a bigger sub, sea-dweller/deep sea, datejust, day-date, yachtmaster & explorer.........what do they have left????? Daytona, expl. 2, air-king???? On the women's side...there's a 31mm lady datejust & the 36mm datejust is now on the women's side on the Rolex website. Rolex has done it in their subtle way......like Porsche & Mercedes, their styles are evolutionary, not revolutionary. It's a free watch world to each his/her own........as a card carrying curmudgeon, I say bah humbug, I prefer the watches pre-enlargement! __________________ Founder & Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

7 February 2011, 02:57 PM	#2
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	I agree that the lifted videos / still did NOT make the Expy II look supercased. However, no way to know for sure until March! The Sub is supercased...and one could argue you don't want more metal to bang on the coral!!

8 February 2011, 02:18 PM	#4
RW16610 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Rommel Location: Toronto Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 9,043	I guess only time will tell for sure. For me personally would not be shocked if it did end up with a super case. One advantage to the less refined case is for the long run against material loss from re finishing. Can not wait to see what Rolex does with it in the end

8 February 2011, 02:25 PM	#5
Strut99GT Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Benbrook, TX Posts: 410	I think chances are greater than 50% it will come with the supercase, strictly for economies of scale. There is no reason to perpetuate an old style when all the new watches have moved toward a new design. I'm not sure if the dimensions between the old sub and current exp II were identical, but they were certainly close.

9 February 2011, 02:12 AM	#6
tomchicago Banned Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Watch: 16710BLRO, 214270. Posts: 2,717	i would say 80%+ probability it gets maxi cased

9 February 2011, 02:48 AM	#11
Cru Jones 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Paris, France Posts: 34,680	well, the 39mm explorer wasn't supersized.... but, every other sport model was, so, explorer ii will be, too. no doubt. i'm not for it, but, you can't fight "progress".

9 February 2011, 03:22 AM	#14
Mendota "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: MN Watch: OP36 Blue 3-6-9 Posts: 2,192	It for sure will have the new style bracelet and clasp. My AD confirmed that for me a year and a half ago, and he said although Rolex has been tight lipped on everything else, what they have indeed shared is that every model in the professional lineups will have the updated bracelets and clasps within the next few years. Seems like this is one of the last ones to receive it.

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