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miter_L · 25 March 2011, 02:37 AM

Hi guys,
i just got a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust watch from my uncle that looks original to me but i'm not a specialist in watches, after a few hours of digging in google i found out that it may be original and it was made in about 1980, and it's value is about 2000$
how can i be sure about it's originality?
i took a few pictures

padi56 · 25 March 2011, 02:57 AM

Your watch is not a replica its a down right fake, made to deceive thats its real.And if it was real and made in the 1980s it most certainly would not have Swiss Made on dial its worth nothing.

Tools · 25 March 2011, 03:13 AM

You can be assured that that watch is a complete fake....

absolutely, no question.... ...

SaddleSC · 25 March 2011, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Your watch is not a replica its a down right fake, made to deceive thats its real.And if it was real and made in the 1980s it most certainly would not have Swiss Made on dial its worth nothing.

+1 Totally worthless fake.

Onikage · 25 March 2011, 03:16 AM

Oh dear.

Frogman4me · 25 March 2011, 03:20 AM

Sorry to say but I have to agree it's a Worthless piece of garbage for sure

moviefreak · 25 March 2011, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by miter_L

Hi guys,
..after a few hours of digging in google i found out that it may be original...

Please explain just what made you get to that assumption after your hours of research.....

Shieldsy · 25 March 2011, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by moviefreak

Please explain just what made you get to that assumption after your hours of research.....

Here we go again on our high horses. We have to believe the guy is genuine in his question. Why do we always question people who ask if a fake watch is real? We all know that there is very little chance of us being fooled, so tell the guy that it is fake and make that the end of it.
He doesn't have to explain why he came to that conclusion - he already stated he does not know about Rolex watches. Unless he came across an article on date mag or case backs, he wouldn't necessarily know just from pics. It does look like a Datejust so it's believable that a total novice would assume that it could be genuine.

Shieldsy

bscepter · 25 March 2011, 04:36 AM

um... unless this is a one-off trade-show demo piece, i don't think i've ever seen a rolex with a clear case back.

rolexertion · 25 March 2011, 04:38 AM

Well, from the photos, I can absolutely assure you that it is NOT 'just a good replica'. It is in fact a very bad fake.

It might bring 20 cents for scrap metal. Sorry.

rolexertion · 25 March 2011, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bscepter

um... unless this is a one-off trade-show demo piece, i don't think i've ever seen a rolex with a clear case back.

And certainly not one with a 50-cent Chinese movement in it...

moviefreak · 25 March 2011, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Shieldsy

Here we go again on our high horses. We have to believe the guy is genuine in his question. Why do we always question people who ask if a fake watch is real? We all know that there is very little chance of us being fooled, so tell the guy that it is fake and make that the end of it.
He doesn't have to explain why he came to that conclusion - he already stated he does not know about Rolex watches. Unless he came across an article on date mag or case backs, he wouldn't necessarily know just from pics. It does look like a Datejust so it's believable that a total novice would assume that it could be genuine.

Shieldsy

just curious on how he got to that conclusion... because if he saw an article in case backs, he could also think this one is fake...

Shieldsy · 25 March 2011, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by moviefreak

just curious on how he got to that conclusion... because if he saw an article in case backs, he could also think this one is fake...

Nice watch

Rags · 25 March 2011, 05:58 AM

Sorry pal...Just the cyclops is a dead giveaway... Rolex uses a 2.5 magnification...

Numismatist · 25 March 2011, 06:02 AM

Whoever makes that, needs to work a little harder

Tools · 25 March 2011, 06:02 AM

Clear casbacks are fine.. so long as folks know that they are not original..

However, when you look in, you should see a Rolex movement.. This one is definitely not Rolex..

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The GMT Master · 25 March 2011, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

Clear casbacks are fine.. so long as folks know that they are not original..

However, when you look in, you should see a Rolex movement.. This one is definitely not Rolex..

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A clear case back made out of stainless steel, and a De Ville to boot? Talk about an identity crisis

Numismatist · 25 March 2011, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Shieldsy

Here we go again on our high horses. We have to believe the guy is genuine in his question. Why do we always question people who ask if a fake watch is real? We all know that there is very little chance of us being fooled, so tell the guy that it is fake and make that the end of it.
He doesn't have to explain why he came to that conclusion - he already stated he does not know about Rolex watches. Unless he came across an article on date mag or case backs, he wouldn't necessarily know just from pics. It does look like a Datejust so it's believable that a total novice would assume that it could be genuine.

Shieldsy

Don't know about this specific thread, but often these things turn out to be scams against members, as in they are hoping a newbie will PM them with an offer to buy it. Or perhaps, the OP is a fake-maker and is trying to find out if his newest creation passes muster; or any number of other oddities that have popped up over the years when these types of threads appear. OR, of course, it could be completely legitimate.

I agree, to a true newbie, there is a TON of confusing info on the interweb...

miter_L · 25 March 2011, 07:13 AM

thanks for the fast replies

and i say it once again i don't know anything about watches, i don't even like watches, just wanted to know if it's a fake or not, and now i know it (this is for Shieldsy)

wdalew5 · 25 March 2011, 07:21 AM

I bet we see this same watch on eBay here in a few..........

miter_L · 25 March 2011, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wdalew5

I bet we see this same watch on eBay here in a few..........

i bet you wont
omg what's your problem people? i just asked if it is original or not
i would sold it if it wasn't fake, but i'm not a jerk to scam people

denzo · 25 March 2011, 08:36 AM

please do us all a favour and destroy the watch to guarantee it never goes on anyones wrist or auction site for sale .....

This watch makes me want to vomit

MonBK · 25 March 2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by miter_L

thanks for the fast replies

and i say it once again i don't know anything about watches, i don't even like watches, just wanted to know if it's a fake or not, and now i know it (this is for Shieldsy)

You might want to hang around and maybe start liking watches?

Kapture1 · 25 March 2011, 08:59 AM

Didn't read comments and I'm sure it's been said, obvious fake, bad one. Cheap.

Date window was then first thing i noticed

CoopJr · 25 March 2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Oh dear.

X2!

25 March 2011, 02:37 AM	#1
miter_L "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Romania Posts: 3	Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust - Original or just a good replica? Hi guys, i just got a Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust watch from my uncle that looks original to me but i'm not a specialist in watches, after a few hours of digging in google i found out that it may be original and it was made in about 1980, and it's value is about 2000$ how can i be sure about it's originality? i took a few pictures

25 March 2011, 02:57 AM	#2
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 52,418	Your watch is not a replica its a down right fake, made to deceive thats its real.And if it was real and made in the 1980s it most certainly would not have Swiss Made on dial its worth nothing. __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

25 March 2011, 03:13 AM	#3
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,139	You can be assured that that watch is a complete fake.... absolutely, no question.... ... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

25 March 2011, 03:16 AM	#5
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Oh dear. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

25 March 2011, 04:36 AM	#9
bscepter "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Patrick Location: Omaha Watch: 16610 Submariner Posts: 948	um... unless this is a one-off trade-show demo piece, i don't think i've ever seen a rolex with a clear case back. __________________ 2009 16610 Submariner Date 1971 1601 Datejust 1966 Omega Seamaster 1965 Vulcain Voyager Chronograph

25 March 2011, 03:20 AM	#6
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Sorry to say but I have to agree it's a Worthless piece of garbage for sure

25 March 2011, 04:38 AM	#10
rolexertion Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Montreal, PQ Posts: 722	Well, from the photos, I can absolutely assure you that it is NOT 'just a good replica'. It is in fact a very bad fake. It might bring 20 cents for scrap metal. Sorry.

25 March 2011, 05:58 AM	#14
Rags 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Chuck Location: SW Florida Watch: 16233,16610,214270 Posts: 11,189	Sorry pal...Just the cyclops is a dead giveaway... Rolex uses a 2.5 magnification... __________________ 16233 Y Serial Datejust 16610 Z Serial Submariner 214270 Explorer *114300 Oyster Perpetual* *76200 Tudor Date+Day*

25 March 2011, 06:02 AM	#15
Numismatist "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: Camden ME & STT Watch: 116600 Posts: 6,350	Whoever makes that, needs to work a little harder __________________ Rolex 116600 Sea-dweller Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White Legrand FP Montblanc Solitaire Doué Black & White RB Montblanc Meisterstück Diamond Mozart BP Montblanc Meisterstück Mozart BP

25 March 2011, 07:13 AM	#19
miter_L "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Romania Posts: 3	thanks for the fast replies and i say it once again i don't know anything about watches, i don't even like watches, just wanted to know if it's a fake or not, and now i know it (this is for Shieldsy)

25 March 2011, 07:21 AM	#20
wdalew5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Dale Location: ohio Watch: Rolex,omega,casio Posts: 508	I bet we see this same watch on eBay here in a few..........

25 March 2011, 08:36 AM	#22
denzo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cheshire Watch: DJ 116234 Roman N Posts: 197	please do us all a favour and destroy the watch to guarantee it never goes on anyones wrist or auction site for sale ..... This watch makes me want to vomit

25 March 2011, 08:59 AM	#24
Kapture1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Flint, MI Watch: Ω 3570.50.00 Posts: 2,058	Didn't read comments and I'm sure it's been said, obvious fake, bad one. Cheap. Date window was then first thing i noticed __________________ Miss you JJ Wash out this tired notion that the best is yet to come

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