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14 February 2013, 02:58 AM | #1 |
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Watches & Diamonds Ltd (UK)
Has anyone used http://watches-and-diamonds.com/
Some very cheap prices... would like some confirmation that it's legit! Specifically a brand new 116718 for £12k .... http://watches-and-diamonds.com/role...-bracelet.html |
14 February 2013, 05:07 AM | #2 |
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Seems highly suspicious to me. Looks like a classic scam site to me, IMO. Maybe one of our known and respected members can validate this site. Why anyone would buy anywhere but here is beyond me.
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14 February 2013, 06:00 AM | #3 |
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Little investigation, looks to be totally fake. Well I don't trust it that's for sure.
Saw on another site they told a guy they couldn't accept his card as he was us based and they only accept uk credit cards. They told me they can only accept usa cards so can't take my uk card. I offered to go there and pay in cash he said no way, it's too risky for them and only staff are allowed in the building for their safety!! So basically I have to pay bank transfer and cannot view the watch in person first! I asked for a call to discuss and be did not reply. Just hope no one falls a victim to it as it seems they made fake yahoo feedback. Yahoo question with a number of answers all from people with only 1 post! All within 24hrs. Very bad. |
14 February 2013, 06:08 AM | #4 |
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14 February 2013, 06:26 AM | #5 |
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just goggle earthed the address its a village hall
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14 February 2013, 08:16 AM | #6 |
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16 February 2013, 05:56 AM | #7 |
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hi their , these guys are scammers people beware noticed how low the prices were myself thought it was abit odd ,done some googling on the phone number they have on website , that number was involded in a health supplement scam loads of people got ripped off the sooner these guys get busted the better!!!
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19 February 2013, 12:32 PM | #8 |
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I fell for the trap!!!!!!!!!!! I ordered one today and started searching for scam links after!!!!!! What a twat!!!!! I'm fuming.very good scam site though,it all looks so legit I even spoke to an online operative,will repost when my watch doesn't come on Friday lool.ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!
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19 February 2013, 12:34 PM | #9 |
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I fell for it,is the anything I can do? I was shopping in a hurry and didn't check for scam
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20 February 2013, 01:17 AM | #10 |
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Tell us you used a Credit card?
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20 February 2013, 03:17 AM | #11 |
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Nah it was a bank transfer ( hand over face) !!!!!!
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Seems that the domain is open from 16.Jan.2013.
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This person have around 5 other scam websites registered.
Another one of them: Domain: bestusedcarstogolimited.com Status: Protected DNS: ns1.villasns.com ns2.villasns.com Created: 2012-11-07 08:26:50 Expires: 2013-11-07 00:26:49 Last Modified: 2012-11-07 08:26:49 Registrant Contact: n/a tom caldwell () 503 westway Trl Amarillo, Texas, MY 79109 P: +60.8062900871 F: Administrative Contact: n/a tom caldwell () 503 westway Trl Amarillo, Texas, MY 79109 P: +60.8062900871 F: Technical Contact: n/a tom caldwell () 503 westway Trl Amarillo, Texas, MY 79109 P: +60.8062900871 F: Billing Contact: n/a tom caldwell () 503 westway Trl Amarillo, Texas, MY 79109 P: +60.8062900871 F: |
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PP 5146 for £16254
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20 February 2013, 08:00 AM | #16 |
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That's awful, very sorry to hear it. Bet these guys made a lot of cash, contact police ASAP.... Maybe something can be done. You have bank details at least? Contact all agencies right away.
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20 February 2013, 08:51 AM | #17 |
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Shopping in a hurry for a multi-THOUSAND dollar watch?
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20 February 2013, 11:46 AM | #19 |
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I'm based in the uk,and it was a wire transfer,think the banks can sort anything yet? Il post my live chat wiv "Caroline" next post lol
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20 February 2013, 11:47 AM | #20 |
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Please wait for a site operator to respond...
If you do not want to wait, please click here to leave us a message. Operator Carolina has joined the chat. Carolina15:58:14 GMT Hello Lewis, thank you for contacting Watches and Diamonds. How may I help you? Lewis15:58:54 GMT So what's the crack?are they good fakes yeh? 15:59:23 GMT When will I get my fake then u rip off pricks 15:59:45 GMT Check my order and tell what's happening then? Carolina16:00:05 GMT Do you want the watch? 16:00:13 GMT Or do you want your money back sir? 16:00:19 GMT There is no need to be rude Lewis16:00:58 GMT I want the watch 16:01:45 GMT I will take a year to get my money back won't it! I've been speaking to other people and you sent them a fake didn't you!!! 16:02:05 GMT What's the serial number of the watch ur sending me? Carolina16:02:29 GMT Can you please tell me who told you we are selling fake watches? Lewis16:02:56 GMT His names Steve bakewell 16:03:12 GMT Check ur previous orders 16:03:28 GMT So how will I get a refund? Carolina16:03:39 GMT There is no customer with that name who bought a watch from us 16:03:42 GMT If you want a refund 16:04:00 GMT Your money will be refunded until Tuesday noon without any extra charges Lewis16:04:31 GMT If I still want the watch when will receive it? Carolina16:05:03 GMT Same time sir 16:05:05 GMT please check 16:05:06 GMT http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...1023758AA5nPQ6 Lewis16:05:58 GMT Ha ha I joker,they are a 16:06:16 GMT allall on the same day how random aye!!!! Carolina16:06:18 GMT Ok sir 16:06:29 GMT So please let me know how do you want to proceed Lewis16:06:49 GMT Are u sure this isn't ur own people writing this ? Carolina16:07:14 GMT Yes I am,. Are you sure that we have cheated someone ? 16:07:23 GMT Because some guy told you? Lewis16:08:15 GMT Can you please tell me when I will receive my fake then? And why don't you give me a call on my mobile to confirm its not a scam? 16:08:43 GMT Why are all the operators called Caroline lol Carolina16:09:36 GMT I have one request for you Please do not make any accusation until you are sure. You will receive the watch(original not fake)or your money back 16:10:33 GMT You think it is not simple for us to ban your ip so you can't get to the live help anymore? But we don't do this since we do not wish to have unhappy customers 16:14:38 GMT You have sent us two email with words that I can't describe and for what? We have not steal your money or sent you a fake watch. So please wait and if you will see that we are doing any of these, please feel free to write any comments you want to 16:15:51 GMT And who is this Steve Bakewell ? 16:16:21 GMT I have checked the order list and there is no such a customer The visitor has left the chat. The chat is ended. Please wait for a site operator to respond... If you do not want to wait, please click here to leave us a message. Operator Carolina has joined the chat. Carolina16:21:34 GMT Hello Lewis, thank you for contacting Watches and Diamonds. How may I help you? Lewis16:22:04 GMT Hello Caroline,is there anyone else I can speak to please? Carolina16:23:21 GMT Yes of course. Please provide me your number and I will forward your request to my superior and he will call you Lewis16:24:26 GMT When will he call me? 16:24:42 GMT This is gonna be good lol Carolina16:25:15 GMT He is out now but he will definitely call you tomorrow 16:25:27 GMT But please do not talk to him like you wrote those emails Lewis16:25:35 GMT Lol where is he at the pub? Carolina16:25:47 GMT Why are you making jokes? Lewis16:25:56 GMT Are you all maylasian? 16:26:32 GMT It's a maylasian founded company isn't it? Carolina16:26:57 GMT Ok sir...I see that there is no poin to talk to you. Your order will be canceled and we will send you back your money. Lewis16:28:33 GMT Can you please tell me when my watch will arrive? As I've been told this Friday,Saturday morning and then I was told Tuesday,can you pick which one of these days it will be :) Carolina16:29:13 GMT I have told you that your order will be canceled and your money refunded Lewis16:29:29 GMT Nah il Have the watch instead please 16:30:09 GMT Sorry for the Inconvineince I'm just annoyed at what I have read 16:30:31 GMT As you should surely understand if you where in my shoes Carolina16:30:51 GMT Ok sir, we will do our best to deliver the watch by Saturday,but normally the shipping takes 5-7 business days 16:31:03 GMT I do understand your concerns but there is no point to be rude 16:31:20 GMT I am here to help Lewis16:31:37 GMT Ok,I'm sorry I will no longer be rude Carolina16:31:48 GMT Then we can understand each other. Lewis16:32:23 GMT Some people on the yahoo link you sent me say they waited a day and others 3 weeks,what's this about? Carolina16:33:09 GMT It is trues that sometimes the shipping is delayed but it is from our suppliers 16:33:29 GMT I assume you didn't think that we have over 2 000 watches on real stock Lewis16:33:53 GMT Do you have any more links so I can be reasurred? Carolina16:34:01 GMT As soon you have placed you order and we have received the payment, we order the watch and we usually receive it within 2-3 days and then send it to the buyer 16:35:10 GMT I have that link from a customer who told me he answered to that question. But you don't have to follow any good or bad comment. 16:35:45 GMT You just have to follow your instinct and I don't know why you had the impression that we are going to send you a fake watch or to steal your money 16:36:08 GMT Anyway I will do my best to have you the watch delivered by Saturday as promissed Lewis16:36:52 GMT How can you do that your only an operator though? Carolina16:37:25 GMT I will FLAG your order with PRIORITY Lewis16:38:47 GMT Ok thank you xxxx Carolina16:38:57 GMT You are welcome 16:39:03 GMT Have a nice day and keep in touch 16:39:07 GMT Bye for now Operator Carolina has left the chat. The chat is ended. |
20 February 2013, 01:03 PM | #21 |
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Dear friends,
Please check this link to the yahoo question: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...1023758AA5nPQ6 which is answered by accounts made from either 04 December 2012, or 11 February 2013. How could it be that coincidental? It is obvious that these accounts were made for a specific purpose, and that is to answer people's question about watches and diamonds dot com. Please help me in reporting abuse to yahoo answers because Yahoo told me that they would need more than a single report in order to process it. This is what I sent to Yahoo: Dear Yahoo, Please check the people commenting on this question. They are all created either on 04 December 2012 or 11 February 2013. It is clear that these are bogus accounts created by one man who is trying to answer questions about his scam site, watches and diamonds dot com. I am a member of TRF - The Rolex Forums, which is a forum dedicated to watches and horology. Please check this link which shows our members discussing about the authenticity of watches and diamonds dot com. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=280641 I am doing this because I do not like people getting scammed for purchasing time pieces, and these kind of sites hurts people a lot. Please do something about it. Thank you. |
21 February 2013, 04:58 AM | #22 |
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Well...did you get the watch??? Update eagerly awaited?
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21 February 2013, 06:20 AM | #23 |
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I just joined this forum this afternoon to say "thank you". Got here via googling 'watches & diamonds limited UK'.
I was 20 minutes from sending a bankwire to these guys for a Vacheron Constantin. Cancelled the wire but am curious about the OP experience. |
21 February 2013, 07:12 AM | #24 |
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21 February 2013, 09:37 AM | #25 |
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They blocked my ip address to, so to go back on there site I have to use a different wi connection or router,think they got sick of the abuse I was give them on the live chat lol
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21 February 2013, 10:09 AM | #26 |
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21 February 2013, 10:38 AM | #27 |
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Yeh told them that
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21 February 2013, 04:20 PM | #28 |
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Just one hint how to cancel a done wirement retroactive ( worked with my bank).
Withdraw in cash all the funds and ask the bank to set your limit to zero so that the wire will put the account into negative. With that the already- done wire may blow - like I've said- it worked with me |
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