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Old 28 August 2013, 04:11 AM   #1
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Ebay 5513

Do 5513's usually bring this much or is it because its a gilt dial with paperwork?
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Old 28 August 2013, 04:19 AM   #2
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Do 5513's usually bring this much or is it because its a gilt dial with paperwork?
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Old 28 August 2013, 05:21 AM   #3
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Old 28 August 2013, 05:43 AM   #5
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I assume you mean this one...
5513 Gilt Dial on EBAY I wish there were a close up of the dial, I'm not a vitage expert but something looks weird to me. and no bracelet is a very big deal, the watch head is where the value is but I'm not paying top dollar without an original bracelet.
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Old 28 August 2013, 06:01 AM   #6
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I assume you mean this one...
5513 Gilt Dial on EBAY I wish there were a close up of the dial, I'm not a vitage expert but something looks weird to me. and no bracelet is a very big deal, the watch head is where the value is but I'm not paying top dollar without an original bracelet.
How much is this worth then?
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Old 28 August 2013, 06:06 AM   #7
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How much is this worth then?
I haven't the foggiest, like I said I'm not a vintage expert but the key is the dial which there is no close up of. I wouldn't be buying unless I could inspect in person with a neutral party that knows these models.

If you are trying to get a value for your piece have a local expert inspect it and give you an appraisal.
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Old 28 August 2013, 06:39 AM   #8
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Old 28 August 2013, 06:42 AM   #9
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Sorry, forgot to post the link. Been a very long day.
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Old 28 August 2013, 06:48 AM   #10
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there are 2 on at the moment.

Here's the other......



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1908902901...84.m1423.l2649
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Old 28 August 2013, 07:02 AM   #11
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it has been a long day for you. you posted the same link


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there are 2 on at the moment.

Here's the other......



http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1908902901...84.m1423.l2649
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Old 28 August 2013, 07:05 AM   #12
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Old 28 August 2013, 10:23 AM   #13
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honestly IMHO the dial is not in good condition - i wouldnt pay for this watch even with paperwork - who cares of the papers if the watch is in so so condition - furthermore look at the polishing job - not good -

if the dial was not so corroded and it had papers i would pay a nice price but not for this watch

think of it this way - if it was sooooo mint, the watch would have been long gone and probably wouldnt have reached ebay anyways especially from a dealer - see the description - i mean really if it were such a catch there would be much more to tell - other than rustic leather band lol

just my opinion but i think its not worth pursuing

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Old 28 August 2013, 11:02 AM   #14
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Although it's not my thread; thanks for the comments guys! Good to hear others' opinions.
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Old 28 August 2013, 11:43 PM   #15
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Bidding ended at £8,100 or roughly $12,500 US Dollars.

It looked like a nice watch to me but seemed quite expensive. I'm trying to get into vintage but it's early days yet so I can't really tell if something is badly polished and things like that.
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Old 28 August 2013, 11:49 PM   #16
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Bidding ended at £8,100 or roughly $12,500 US Dollars.

It looked like a nice watch to me but seemed quite expensive. I'm trying to get into vintage but it's early days yet so I can't really tell if something is badly polished and things like that.
You are smart to do your homework now before you jump in.
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Old 29 August 2013, 12:24 AM   #17
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Sold way over price ! I would not pay over $6,000. Wait patiently and you will come across someone needing cash and wanting to unload a good 5513.
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Old 29 August 2013, 12:26 AM   #18
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Did you see the nice 5513 Jacek has for sale on her for under $5,000 ! ! With papers. And the seller is authentic.
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Old 29 August 2013, 12:30 AM   #19
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Replaced hands, replaced insert, later bracelet. Nice Sub and great to have the papers, but not at that price. You can do better.
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Old 29 August 2013, 12:41 AM   #20
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I would like to buy from a reputable dealer if possible. There are a few in the UK but the American based dealers such as Eric Ku have a much better choice but I'm quite worried about the import duty. I like high end guitars but if I bought one from the States I would have to pay VAT at 20% which would make it more expensive than it would have done to buy it the UK in the first place. I assume the same would apply to a watch.
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Old 29 August 2013, 01:00 AM   #21
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In a way but a watch can be shipped more *discrete* :-)
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Old 29 August 2013, 04:12 PM   #22
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Did you see the nice 5513 Jacek has for sale on her for under $5,000 ! ! With papers. And the seller is authentic.
Ummmm, gilt dial is not the same as matte dial. A 5513 is not a 5513 is not a 5513. Whatever the problems may or may not have been with the eBay watch, you really need to compare apples to apples here. If you wouldn't pay over $6,000 for a gilt 5513, then you aren't buying one.

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Old 29 August 2013, 04:38 PM   #23
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ummmm, gilt dial is not the same as matte dial. A 5513 is not a 5513 is not a 5513. Whatever the problems may or may not have been with the ebay watch, you really need to compare apples to apples here. If you wouldn't pay over $6,000 for a gilt 5513, then you aren't buying one.

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Old 25 September 2013, 07:06 AM   #24
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It doesn't really help this buyer (or anyone) increase their knowledge to compare these watches. I could have spent half as much as I did to get a 5513 but wanted something a little rarer e.g. gilt, metres first, underline, single SWISS, PCG model. Without any of these features the price varies.

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Ummmm, gilt dial is not the same as matte dial. A 5513 is not a 5513 is not a 5513. Whatever the problems may or may not have been with the eBay watch, you really need to compare apples to apples here. If you wouldn't pay over $6,000 for a gilt 5513, then you aren't buying one.

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Old 25 September 2013, 07:10 AM   #25
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Yes, you're 100% right. With my first US purchase I got quite a shock on delivery

I didn't know about the VAT and 20% made the watch much less of a bargain

US watches are a real bargain... if you live in the US!

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I would like to buy from a reputable dealer if possible. There are a few in the UK but the American based dealers such as Eric Ku have a much better choice but I'm quite worried about the import duty. I like high end guitars but if I bought one from the States I would have to pay VAT at 20% which would make it more expensive than it would have done to buy it the UK in the first place. I assume the same would apply to a watch.
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