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accce · 18 October 2013, 09:11 AM

I now call it a SubDweller. I like parts of the new SubC but hate others. I like the sleek look of the SD 16600 that I wear most. So I combined my favorites from the 2 and made my own (ABC WatchWerks Made it for me). They thinned out the lugs and case a bit added a classic finish w/chamfers and cut the crown guards to pyramid style. I also added a new Daytona Bracelet to the watch. What do you think?

mjclark32 · 18 October 2013, 09:21 AM

Other than the cyclops what other mods were done?

I have a love hate relationship with my subs cyclops, props to you for going through with the mod

accce · 18 October 2013, 09:24 AM

They thinned out the lugs and case a bit added a classic finish w/chamfers and cut the crown guards to pyramid style.

Lgear080 · 18 October 2013, 09:27 AM

Nice but you likely ruined any resale prospect for a future buyer.

I personally like your weight loss plan :)

accce · 18 October 2013, 09:29 AM

It was not about the resale. The watch could have been a total loss if they messed up.

Rolexitis · 18 October 2013, 09:46 AM

As long as you like it

accce · 18 October 2013, 10:32 AM

Thx

Psmith · 19 October 2013, 03:30 AM

The work looks very well done (as you would expect from ABCWW), although I prefer the original product

Well done for making it your own

Hmmm... I wonder if they could fit a Triplock crown to an EXP II ...??

accce · 19 October 2013, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

The work looks very well done (as you would expect from ABCWW), although I prefer the original product

Well done for making it your own

Hmmm... I wonder if they could fit a Triplock crown to an EXP II ...??

What do you prefer about the original?

datejust24 · 19 October 2013, 07:28 AM

I like the mod...I can't stand how one of the first things people talk about is resale value...who cares!! Nothing was mentioned about selling the watch...Again, I like it and now you have what you wanted. Looks badass!! Wish Rolex would consider bringing back the SD 4000..

Psmith · 19 October 2013, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by accce

What do you prefer about the original?

With the Sub C I'm happy with the standard product, but I completely understand the desire to alter to match personal taste. One of my favourite modiifcations is this 16610LV 'big crown' project www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=130204

Personally, I would love to have an Exp II 42mm with a Triplock crown. Not sure about Glidelock, as I find the Easylink clasp perfectly adequate. I would also change the black dial to true matte finish and then better match the 'phantom' hands to it

Rashid.bk · 19 October 2013, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

The work looks very well done (as you would expect from ABCWW), although I prefer the original product

Well done for making it your own

Hmmm... I wonder if they could fit a Triplock crown to an EXP II ...??

Whoah! I thought I was the only one who felt like that. It's the only thing keeping me from committing to the Exp 2. I know it isn't a functional item but the aesthetics are off for me with the tiny crown.

Rashid.bk · 19 October 2013, 10:54 AM

oh yeah, the Sub..not sure about the changes. I like the lack of a cyclops, the other mods I'd have to see in person. I think the Sub minus he cyclops is perfect as is really.
I commend your courage in making it truly yours.

Psmith · 19 October 2013, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Whoah! I thought I was the only one who felt like that. It's the only thing keeping me from committing to the Exp 2. I know it isn't a functional item but the aesthetics are off for me with the tiny crown.

Exactly... Rolex equiped the GMT and Daytona with a Triplock, so why not the Exp II? The size increase to 42 mm makes this even more necessary imho

accce · 20 October 2013, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

With the Sub C I'm happy with the standard product, but I completely understand the desire to alter to match personal taste. One of my favourite modiifcations is this 16610LV 'big crown' project www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=130204

Personally, I would love to have an Exp II 42mm with a Triplock crown. Not sure about Glidelock, as I find the Easylink clasp perfectly adequate. I would also change the black dial to true matte finish and then better match the 'phantom' hands to it

I agree the the Easylink is a perfect clasp.

Steve748 · 20 October 2013, 03:27 AM

I agree with the OP..... so I replaced the crystal with one from a Sub and added a green date wheel as well.

It is reversible but as I won't be selling it then it does not come into the mix.

psv · 21 October 2013, 11:15 AM

I for one love this mod. Submariner Outlaw!

accce · 21 October 2013, 11:57 AM

I will try to get some better pictures of the chamfers. I think this is the way it should have been made from the factory.

samsmart · 21 October 2013, 12:24 PM

I think it looks great. It does take courage to do this to a perfectly good and very valuable rolex.

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MrFerrier · 21 October 2013, 12:31 PM

Mate,
I think it looks great! Everything you have done is what I don't like about the SubC. If only they had just added the Ceramic Bezel to the old model, Perfict!
Congrats, looks great.
Nino.

Bangel · 22 October 2013, 04:54 AM

I think it looks pretty good.

The narrowing of the lugs and the shaping of the crown guards is quite subtle in my eyes.

Actually you and I probably feel fairly similarly about the sub c. Two of the styling "issues" I had was the cyclops (none of my previous watches had one and they never really appealed to me) and the wide lugs. In the end I grew to like them (though occasionally I still yearn for narrower lugs!).

Bravo for getting the watch to look the way you want and thanks goes sharing.

ralpie · 22 October 2013, 05:05 AM

Insanity- but I love it!

cop414 · 22 October 2013, 10:17 AM

I like it and love how ABC does those old style chamfers. When my Sub needs service that's probably where I'll end up sending it.

Chute · 22 October 2013, 12:41 PM

Totally digging the cyclops free dial!

destrow · 23 October 2013, 12:07 AM

it looks awesome. subtle way to put just a bit of vintage feel to that new sub.

it would be nice if Rolex would have some options like this that could be bought/installed at time of purchase, just as with an options list on an automobile purchase. customized with Rolex warranty would be great!

jmc1080 · 25 October 2013, 10:48 PM

Good job.

STEELINOX · 25 October 2013, 10:57 PM

Wonderfully executed !

The chamfage is what this "sterile" case needed, the cropping too, very nice

Zap that cyclops like the Death Star it is :thumbs up:

Top Marks

Now go back and see if they can "drill thru" them lug pin holes !

accce · 4 November 2013, 03:02 AM

This watch has turned into one of my favorite watches to wear on the weekends.

strafer_kid · 4 November 2013, 05:36 AM

Have to agree with the comment earlier about resale - surely the key thing when you pick up a Rolex is to enjoy it, rather than worry from the word go about its resale value? Resale is always going got be hit and miss, with some inevitable depreciation no matter what, given the current and short term economy. The satisfaction got from wearing your Rolex easily offsets any drop in its residual value - buy 'em to enjoy 'em!

johnswatch · 4 November 2013, 05:56 AM

I think it's the perfect watch. I sold my SD 4000 because of the shockingly poor clasp and lack of adjustment that made the relatively small caseback bulge press into my wrist very uncomfortably.

Had this watch been available at the time it would have been my perfect watch - possibly still is....

18 October 2013, 09:21 AM	#2
mjclark32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: MJC Location: PHL USA Watch: IWC, Rolex, AP Posts: 29,232	Other than the cyclops what other mods were done? I have a love hate relationship with my subs cyclops, props to you for going through with the mod __________________

19 October 2013, 03:30 AM	#8
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	The work looks very well done (as you would expect from ABCWW), although I prefer the original product Well done for making it your own Hmmm... I wonder if they could fit a Triplock crown to an EXP II ...?? __________________

22 October 2013, 10:17 AM	#23
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 71,859	I like it and love how ABC does those old style chamfers. When my Sub needs service that's probably where I'll end up sending it. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

25 October 2013, 10:57 PM	#27
STEELINOX 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Sink-O! Location: a praire in AZ Watch: ROLEX-less atm... Posts: 14,007	Wonderfully executed ! The chamfage is what this "sterile" case needed, the cropping too, very nice Zap that cyclops like the Death Star it is :thumbs up: Top Marks Now go back and see if they can "drill thru" them lug pin holes ! __________________ *Positive Waves Baby* Lug Hole Loyalist / Chamfer Line Inspector INFORTHE WIN 274

4 November 2013, 05:56 AM	#30
johnswatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a dream world Posts: 488	I think it's the perfect watch. I sold my SD 4000 because of the shockingly poor clasp and lack of adjustment that made the relatively small caseback bulge press into my wrist very uncomfortably. Had this watch been available at the time it would have been my perfect watch - possibly still is.... __________________ 18k GMTIIc, II,16013 DJ, PAM 112, Patek ref 96J, Helson Bronze, Elgin Trench, Gruen Curvex, Omega F300 and a few others......

18 October 2013, 09:24 AM	#3
accce "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Chevy Chase Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 1,088	They thinned out the lugs and case a bit added a classic finish w/chamfers and cut the crown guards to pyramid style.

18 October 2013, 09:27 AM	#4
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	Nice but you likely ruined any resale prospect for a future buyer. I personally like your weight loss plan :)

18 October 2013, 09:29 AM	#5
accce "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Chevy Chase Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 1,088	It was not about the resale. The watch could have been a total loss if they messed up.

18 October 2013, 09:46 AM	#6
Rolexitis "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Earth Watch: 114060 Posts: 3,203	As long as you like it

18 October 2013, 10:32 AM	#7
accce "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Chevy Chase Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 1,088	Thx

19 October 2013, 07:28 AM	#10
datejust24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Watch: Rolexssss Posts: 3,504	I like the mod...I can't stand how one of the first things people talk about is resale value...who cares!! Nothing was mentioned about selling the watch...Again, I like it and now you have what you wanted. Looks badass!! Wish Rolex would consider bringing back the SD 4000..

19 October 2013, 10:54 AM	#13
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,172	oh yeah, the Sub..not sure about the changes. I like the lack of a cyclops, the other mods I'd have to see in person. I think the Sub minus he cyclops is perfect as is really. I commend your courage in making it truly yours.

20 October 2013, 03:27 AM	#16
Steve748 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Steve Location: San Diego Watch: GMT2c & LVc Posts: 220	I agree with the OP..... so I replaced the crystal with one from a Sub and added a green date wheel as well. It is reversible but as I won't be selling it then it does not come into the mix.

21 October 2013, 11:15 AM	#17
psv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North America Posts: 11,066	I for one love this mod. Submariner Outlaw!

21 October 2013, 11:57 AM	#18
accce "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Chevy Chase Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 1,088	I will try to get some better pictures of the chamfers. I think this is the way it should have been made from the factory.

21 October 2013, 12:24 PM	#19
samsmart "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: sam Location: Dallas, TX Watch: Me Tint Posts: 3,777	I think it looks great. It does take courage to do this to a perfectly good and very valuable rolex. Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2

21 October 2013, 12:31 PM	#20
MrFerrier "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Nino Location: Australia Watch: Deep Sea Posts: 65	Mate, I think it looks great! Everything you have done is what I don't like about the SubC. If only they had just added the Ceramic Bezel to the old model, Perfict! Congrats, looks great. Nino.

22 October 2013, 04:54 AM	#21
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	I think it looks pretty good. The narrowing of the lugs and the shaping of the crown guards is quite subtle in my eyes. Actually you and I probably feel fairly similarly about the sub c. Two of the styling "issues" I had was the cyclops (none of my previous watches had one and they never really appealed to me) and the wide lugs. In the end I grew to like them (though occasionally I still yearn for narrower lugs!). Bravo for getting the watch to look the way you want and thanks goes sharing.

22 October 2013, 05:05 AM	#22
ralpie 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Ral P Location: Northeast Posts: 2,384	Insanity- but I love it!

22 October 2013, 12:41 PM	#24
Chute "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Chris Location: Austin Watch: 6 digit Rolex+APRO Posts: 1,543	Totally digging the cyclops free dial!

23 October 2013, 12:07 AM	#25
destrow "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New Orleans Posts: 145	it looks awesome. subtle way to put just a bit of vintage feel to that new sub. it would be nice if Rolex would have some options like this that could be bought/installed at time of purchase, just as with an options list on an automobile purchase. customized with Rolex warranty would be great!

25 October 2013, 10:48 PM	#26
jmc1080 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 20	Good job.

4 November 2013, 03:02 AM	#28
accce "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Chevy Chase Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 1,088	This watch has turned into one of my favorite watches to wear on the weekends.

4 November 2013, 05:36 AM	#29
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,127	Have to agree with the comment earlier about resale - surely the key thing when you pick up a Rolex is to enjoy it, rather than worry from the word go about its resale value? Resale is always going got be hit and miss, with some inevitable depreciation no matter what, given the current and short term economy. The satisfaction got from wearing your Rolex easily offsets any drop in its residual value - buy 'em to enjoy 'em!

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