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412Rolex · 31 March 2014, 12:14 AM

No more 5960 or 5980...

travisb · 31 March 2014, 04:42 AM

Oh well....
I guess when my day comes for a 5980, it'll be in the secondary market.

Oryx · 31 March 2014, 06:12 AM

This was initially communicated to AD's last year.

I wonder how many further models will be discontinued this year to make way for the 175th anniversary collection.

mps354 · 31 March 2014, 06:55 AM

Will the new watches come out in a month on the actual anniversary date, or are they scheduled to be released much later in the year?

Oryx · 31 March 2014, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mps354

Will the new watches come out in a month on the actual anniversary date, or are they scheduled to be released much later in the year?

I think the special releases will be in October

mps354 · 31 March 2014, 07:29 AM

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oryx

I think the special releases will be in October

iazrollie · 31 March 2014, 10:54 AM

Has anyone heard about price increaes?

FeelingTheBlues · 31 March 2014, 11:56 AM

That's too bad, in my opinion a lot of those watches look much better than the new releases but hey, it's a part of the game and surely these references had to be discontinued at some point.

Thank you for sharing that information.

sctp39 · 1 April 2014, 04:26 AM

A friend of mine attended the Goverg Patek event recently and was told there will not be a price increase this year from a Patek corporate person ( his name may have been Thierry or something like that ;) )

FremStar · 1 April 2014, 06:12 AM

I'm very curious to see what will happen to secondary prices on the 5170J...

412Rolex · 1 April 2014, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

That's too bad, in my opinion a lot of those watches look much better than the new releases but hey, it's a part of the game and surely these references had to be discontinued at some point.

Thank you for sharing that information.

No problem!

412Rolex · 1 April 2014, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FremStar

I'm very curious to see what will happen to secondary prices on the 5170J...

I am curious of this myself...

Oryx · 1 April 2014, 08:05 AM

I think the 5170J is one of the best watches produced by Patek in recent years. I could never understand why so many were sat unsold in the windows of AD's.

I think the softness will evaporate and prices will start climbing for this relatively short lived reference.

As an owner of the 5170J this could be considered wishful thinking!

conkers · 1 April 2014, 10:26 AM

The size of discounts on it are huge. Just don't understand it at all.

jenniferjanef · 1 April 2014, 02:23 PM

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iazrollie · 1 April 2014, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oryx

I think the 5170J is one of the best watches produced by Patek in recent years. I could never understand why so many were sat unsold in the windows of AD's.

I think the softness will evaporate and prices will start climbing for this relatively short lived reference.

As an owner of the 5170J this could be considered wishful thinking!

From my POV, I think the 5170j is beautiful. But, at that price, it is basically playing in the same sandbox as the annuals, which IMO offer much more bang for the buck - eg, automatic movement, date, cooler complications, etc.

jon_jon · 2 April 2014, 11:46 PM

I suspect the price increase from the 5070 chronos to the 5170J contributed to the soft pricing of the 5170J initially. It is also tough for a watch reference when the first metal they release is in yellow gold. Although yellow gold is a classic, it is not as popular in today's world. Also during the time the 5170J was released, currency exchange rates were quite different than when the 5170G was released. This meant in many markets the 5170J actually had a list price higher than the 5170G which made it a tougher sell for the ADs after the 5170G came out.

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31 March 2014, 04:42 AM	#2
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,440	Oh well.... I guess when my day comes for a 5980, it'll be in the secondary market.

31 March 2014, 06:12 AM	#3
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,888	This was initially communicated to AD's last year. I wonder how many further models will be discontinued this year to make way for the 175th anniversary collection.

31 March 2014, 06:55 AM	#4
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,977	Will the new watches come out in a month on the actual anniversary date, or are they scheduled to be released much later in the year?

1 April 2014, 04:26 AM	#9
sctp39 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Home Posts: 562	A friend of mine attended the Goverg Patek event recently and was told there will not be a price increase this year from a Patek corporate person ( his name may have been Thierry or something like that ;) )

1 April 2014, 08:05 AM	#13
Oryx "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: London Posts: 1,888	I think the 5170J is one of the best watches produced by Patek in recent years. I could never understand why so many were sat unsold in the windows of AD's. I think the softness will evaporate and prices will start climbing for this relatively short lived reference. As an owner of the 5170J this could be considered wishful thinking!

1 April 2014, 10:26 AM	#14
conkers "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Roger Location: Hong Kong Watch: Too many! Posts: 6,012	The size of discounts on it are huge. Just don't understand it at all.

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jenniferjanef "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,824	.

2 April 2014, 11:46 PM	#17
jon_jon "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 4,343	I suspect the price increase from the 5070 chronos to the 5170J contributed to the soft pricing of the 5170J initially. It is also tough for a watch reference when the first metal they release is in yellow gold. Although yellow gold is a classic, it is not as popular in today's world. Also during the time the 5170J was released, currency exchange rates were quite different than when the 5170G was released. This meant in many markets the 5170J actually had a list price higher than the 5170G which made it a tougher sell for the ADs after the 5170G came out.

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