5513 bracelet advise

[The_Walrus]

Good day all.
Could someone shed some light on what bracelet is fitted on this MF 5513?
I'm waiting on advise from seller of the serial number.
Case back is stamped IV 68.
Thanks

[The_Walrus]

Additional pic

[The_Walrus]

Like most haven't worked out how to post multiple pics

[The_Walrus]

And a pic of the dial

[mysonsrolex]

just to help the OP out with responses the serial number is in the 2.4m range.

I am the previous owner of the watch.

[cell1010]

the watch is very good looking and the bracelet wouldn't bother me too much. It is an early folded one so could be okay for the watch. Refernce could be 9315 with 380 endlinks. Nice kissing 4 inlay btw.

The 2.4m serial is a bit late from what I read at B. Miller 2s website http://www.5513mattedial.com/MetersFirst.html

[jedly1]

probably would originally have come with

first of the folded link 9315 with 380 end links IMHO if european supplied.

C&I usa rivet if Usa first supply

looks like 9315 folded link with later clasp from late 70's.

[The_Walrus]

Thank you Manuel, yes the serial number was something that did jump out and a concern.
All other '68 and '69 that I have research were all below a 2m serial.
Would you agree Jed?

[springer]

Originally Posted by The_Walrus

Thank you Manuel, yes the serial number was something that did jump out and a concern.
All other '68 and '69 that I have research were all below a 2m serial.
Would you agree Jed?

I can't speak for Jed, but here is my serial number/case back document to check your serial number against. Many 1969 case backs have a 2XXXXXX serial number.

CASE BACK NUMBERS
(UPDATED 10/11/14)

112XXX, case back dated IV 55
223XXX, case back dated I 57
349XXX, case back dated I 1958
355XXX, case back dated II 1958 (GMT 6542)
381XXX, case back dated II 1958
427XXX, case back dated IV 58 (GMT 6542)
489XXX, case back dated III 59
490XXX, case back dated III 59
503XXX, case back dated I 60 (GMT)
547XXX, case back dated II 60
577XXX, case back dated II 60
596XXX, case back dated IV 60
745XXX, case back dated II 62
87XXXX, case back dated I 63
990XXX, case back dated III 63
997XXX, case back dated III 63
10XXXXX, case back dated IV 63
104XXXX, case back dated IV 63
112XXXX, case back dated IV 64
11XXXXX, case back dated IV 64
127XXXX, case back dated IV 64
13XXXXX, case back dated IV 65
133XXXX, case back dated I 66
134XXXX, case back dated III 66
137XXXX, case back dated I 66
140XXXX, case back dated II 66 (gilt GMT)
14XXXXX, case back dated II 66
142XXXX, case back dated IV 65 (Gilt GMT sold 9/67)
15XXXXX, case back dated VI 66 (model 1016, 6th qtr)
16XXXXX, case back dated II 67
160XXXX, case back dated II 67
163XXXX, case back dated II 67 (one owner GMT full set)
164XXXX, case back dated II 67
168XXXX, case back dated II 67
17XXXXX, case back dated IV 67
171XXXX, case back dated IV 67
180XXXX, CASE BACK DATED I 68
182XXXX, case back dated II 67
182XXXX, case back dated IV 67
183XXXX, case back dated I 68
185XXXX, case back dated IV 67
1852XXX, case back dated I 68
188XXXX, case back dated I 68
18XXXXX, case back dated I 68
18XXXXX, case back dated III 68
19XXXXX, case back dated IV 68
19XXXXX, case back dated IV 68
204XXXX, case back dated IV 68 (sold 3/70)
213XXXX, case back dated IV 68
21XXXXX, case back dated II 69
218XXXX, case back dated I 69
231XXXX, case back dated III 69
23XXXXX, case back dated IV 70
24XXXXX, case back dated IV 69
24XXXXX, case back dated II 70
241XXXX, case back dated III 69 (red Sub)
241XXXX, case back dated I 70 (red Sub sold 7/71)
24XXXXX, case back dated I 70
244XXXX, case back dated II 70
247XXXX, case back dated II 70
25XXXXX, case back dated I 70
250XXXX, case back dated I 70
26XXXXX, case back dated III 70
267XXXX, case back dated I 70
271XXXX, case back dated I 70
281XXXX, case back dated II 71
28XXXXX, case back dated IV 70 (red Sub sold 6/1974)
28XXXXX, case back dated IV 70
29XXXXX, case back dated I 71
292XXXX, case back dated II 71
304XXXX, case back dated II 72
307XXXX, case back dated III 71
309XXXX, case back dated I 72
31XXXXX, case back dated II 71
32XXXXX, case back dated II 72
33XXXXX, case back dated II 72
33XXXXX, case back dated III 72
33XXXXX, case back dated IV 72
35XXXXX, case back dated I 72
36XXXXX, no case back date
374XXXX, no case back date
380XXXX, no case back date
386XXXX, case back dated I 72

[The_Walrus]

Wow John, how are you able to rotate all these pieces?

In all seriousness, I can understand how a case back can be found over a range of SN's but the real question is does a MF dial belong in a 2.4m case?
All MF's I've encountered are in the range of 1.5 to 1.9 as the transition to feet first occurred 69/70.
2.4m places this case well into the 70's when meters first produced dials ceased.
Is my understanding correct?

[springer]

Originally Posted by The_Walrus

Wow John, how are you able to rotate all these pieces?

In all seriousness, I can understand how a case back can be found over a range of SN's but the real question is does a MF dial belong in a 2.4m case?
All MF's I've encountered are in the range of 1.5 to 1.9 as the transition to feet first occurred 69/70.
2.4m places this case well into the 70's when meters first produced dials ceased.
Is my understanding correct?

If Beaumont Miller's 5513 website indicates that the 2.1 case is too late for a meters first dial, that would be prima facie for me that the dial is not correct.

[The_Walrus]

Originally Posted by springer

If Beaumont Miller's 5513 website indicates that the 2.1 case is too late for a meters first dial, that would be prima facie for me that the dial is not correct.

The site states this and I have also PM'd BM II and he has indicated as such.
Such a shame as this watch is perfect in every other way (and local).

Thank you for your assistance guys.

Your opinions are of great value.

[Wing Zero]

2.4 is a little late for a meter first dial IMO.
I've seen plenty of MF on 2.2 M cases though.

Quoted directly from Beaumont's website:

"However the period from late 1969 to early 1970, consistent with the 2.2 mil serial range, represents an overlap in which both meters first and feet first matte 5513 dials can be found."