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Old 29 February 2008, 04:01 AM   #1
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Daytona Three Dials???

What do the three dials inside the Daytona stand for or what are there purpose? Thanks.
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Old 29 February 2008, 04:13 AM   #2
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Hi Sandro,

They are for normal seconds (continuous), chronograph elapsed minutes (up to 30 minutes) and chronograph elapsed hours (upto 12 hours). The large second hand is used for chronograph seconds and is normally stationary.

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Old 29 February 2008, 04:15 AM   #3
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The Daytona has two different arrangements of the three sub-dials.

The Sub-dials are (1.) standard seconds (2.) minutes up to 30, and (3.) hours up to 12.

The large second hand (standard for most watches) is a stopwatch function and the minutes sub-dial, and the hours sub-dial total it's travel around the main dial.

Earlier model were arranged with the seconds dial at the 9 o'clock position, hours at 6 and minutes at 3.

The latest 4130 in-house movement has moved these and the standard seconds sub-dial is at the 6 o'clock position as that has been the traditional position for centuries..


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Old 29 February 2008, 04:21 AM   #4
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Thanks gentleman for clearly that up. I guess I'll figure them out once I purchase the watch. :) Not until next year, as I've just purchase the 2T Datejust and SS/Plat YM.
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Old 29 February 2008, 04:34 AM   #5
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(...)The latest 4130 in-house movement has moved these and the standard seconds sub-dial is at the 6 o'clock position as that has been the traditional position for centuries..(...)
Agreed. That's the classic Tricompax arrangement.

Plus the new position of the continously running second's hand simply had to be at six o' clock due to the different construction of the in-house Cal. 4130 and the "Zenith" Cal. 4030. Furthermore, and again due to the change of construction, the subsidiary dials at 3 and 9 also had to be moved up by 7 % compared to the "Zenith" Cal.

The below pics shown the change of the position of the subsidiary dials, but also the need to make the chronograph pushers stand at a perfect 90 degree angle on the in-house Calibre case as compared to the Zenith that had slight off-angle pusher (again this had to be done due to changes of the movement).





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Old 29 February 2008, 05:42 AM   #9
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Bo, I see the dial changes, but I don't see the angle of the pushers being different. Can you point that out?

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Compare the crossing of the two red lines on the pushers on the second pic. There you see that the pushers of the "Zenith" Daytona Cal. were slightly off-angle.
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Old 29 February 2008, 05:51 AM   #11
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I think I see what you are saying now. Did I draw it right?

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Old 29 February 2008, 06:35 AM   #13
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Well, yet another gem from Bo's treasure trove of Rolex trivia. I was aware of some of the differences between my 16520 and the current model but never knew there so many.

Cheers Bo.
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Agreed. That's the classic Tricompax arrangement.

Plus the new position of the continously running second's hand simply had to be at six o' clock due to the different construction of the in-house Cal. 4130 and the "Zenith" Cal. 4030. Furthermore, and again due to the change of construction, the subsidiary dials at 3 and 9 also had to be moved up by 7 % compared to the "Zenith" Cal.

The below pics shown the change of the position of the subsidiary dials, but also the need to make the chronograph pushers stand at a perfect 90 degree angle on the in-house Calibre case as compared to the Zenith that had slight off-angle pusher (again this had to be done due to changes of the movement).



(Pics by "Prof. Rolex" from a German watch forum).

Thanks for this; I never noticed it until now. I always wondered why my Speedy seconds dial is not in the center as for me logically that should be at 6'O clock but looks like it has been there for majority of chronos. Good to know Rolex changed it to 6'O clock.
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