1655 question

[polarinda]

Is it possible to have a mk 1 dial straight hand with a mk 2 bezel on a 3.7mil case?

Seems that 3.7mil approximates to 1973.

[Vincent65]

Yes, you can have a MKI dial (straight hand) with a MKII bezel.

MKI Stern is c2.5 -3.5 mil (c'70-'73)

[AS1]

Karl is absolutely correct (of course!). My 1655 is indeed Mk 1 dial with Mk 2 bezel.

[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by AS1

Karl is absolutely correct (of course!). My 1655 is indeed Mk 1 dial with Mk 2 bezel.

beauty!

[AS1]

Thanks Karl! Trav, in case helpful, mine has a 3,3xx,xxx serial #.

[mike]

Originally Posted by AS1

Karl is absolutely correct (of course!). My 1655 is indeed Mk 1 dial with Mk 2 bezel.

Killer example.

[polarinda]

thanks guys!

but i still have doubts about a 3.7mil(kindda late) case having a mk 1 dial.

but rolex is well known to have overlapping issues with parts....

[AS1]

I am by no means an expert, but I believe the watch in those photographs has a Mk 2 dial, not Mk 1. The thing I always look for is the space between the "L" and the "E" in "ROLEX." The space is larger on the Mk 1 dial.

EDIT - actually isn't that an even later dial (maybe Mk 4), because of the <25 T at the bottom?

[polarinda]

Originally Posted by AS1

I am by no means an expert, but I believe the watch in those photographs has a Mk 2 dial, not Mk 1. The thing I always look for is the space between the "L" and the "E" in "ROLEX." The space is larger on the Mk 1 dial.

EDIT - actually isn't that an even later dial (maybe Mk 4), because of the <25 T at the bottom?

our crowns are different looking also....and the "L" and "E" are positioned differently too...


The seller advertised as a MK 1 dial...probably wrong..


note: pix above from seller's website.

[polarinda]

if it's mk 4, then what's the straight hand doing there?


;000

[Vincent65]

Originally Posted by polarinda

thanks guys!

but i still have doubts about a 3.7mil(kindda late) case having a mk 1 dial.

but rolex is well known to have overlapping issues with parts....

looks more like a MKV dial with a MKIV bezel to me (not an expert!)

[polarinda]

so the case, dial and second hand are all period mismatched?!

(definitely not an expert)

[Vincent65]

doesn't appear consistent...

[polarinda]

but the patina looks fine....

will pass then..

[AS1]

That seems to be the case. Put it this way, I have never heard of/seen a straight seconds hand on a 1655 with that late of a dial (Karl I think I am coming to the same conclusion that it is a Mark V dial - to the OP, one way to be sure would be to look closely at the font used for "T SWISS < 25 T"). I have to add the disclaimer again that I am not an expert, but I think this example has issues.

[Vincent65]

Here's an amazing example of a minty MKI dial with MKI bezel, posted by a member yesterday (cf-ken). Just stunning. Virtually NOS, by the looks of that one photo.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=392702

I borrowed the pic for reference.

[jdmi32]

With a 3.7 mil case, straight hand is possible, but the dial and bezel on that watch are not period correct. No way did the watch leave the factory in that configuration.

[Frogman4me]

MKI dial with straight seconds and MKII bezel is ok in my book.

[Beaumont Miller II]

Pics are blurry.
Mk 5 dial with mk 2 insert with incorrect straight hand.

[r4gs]

Much later t<25 dial in an early 3.7 mil case that is late for straight seconds - imo put together from parts and did not leave geneva this way. Not a big issue if it pleases u aesthetically, but if this is the specific watch from a specific dealer in a specific part of scotts road, then I have viewed it. Fair condition with a useless to me RSC verification receipt. Asking price too high imo as is to be expected why it is still on sale after so long.

[Storky]

Hi guys, apologies if I'm jumping in but I haven't properly checked mine.
I did a quick bit of research before I bought it and believe it has Mk 5 dial with a Mk 3 bezel?
It has a 590**** serial with I presume, the correct (non-straight) seconds hand.
.... interesting thread, learning more each day thanks to you lot!

[Beaumont Miller II]

Yes you have a mk 5 dial and mk 3 insert.

[Frogman4me]

Originally Posted by beaumont miller ii

yes you have a mk 5 dial and mk 3 insert.

+1

[Storky]

Originally Posted by Beaumont Miller II

Yes you have a mk 5 dial and mk 3 insert.

Originally Posted by Frogman4me

+1

Thanks for the confirmation!

[polarinda]

Originally Posted by r4gs

Much later t<25 dial in an early 3.7 mil case that is late for straight seconds - imo put together from parts and did not leave geneva this way. Not a big issue if it pleases u aesthetically, but if this is the specific watch from a specific dealer in a specific part of scotts road, then I have viewed it. Fair condition with a useless to me RSC verification receipt. Asking price too high imo as is to be expected why it is still on sale after so long.

spot on Matt!

[polarinda]

RSC singapore authenticated this to be genuine, neglecting period issues...obviously..