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Big A · 26 June 2008, 09:50 PM

Anyone know much about the Comex? Thought they were all like a normal Sub with "Comex" on the dial, but recently seen one with yellow markers and hands and a slightly different looking bezel, that looked fantastic.

Lol-x · 26 June 2008, 10:04 PM

Here is one for sale at present in Hong Kong. The price with box and documents is around US$200,000. It is a 5514, and has the gas escape valve, which ordinary 5513 general issue no-date Submariners do not have.

SPACE-DWELLER · 26 June 2008, 10:07 PM

Here are some good sites for you to learn more about the Comex Subs and SD's:

www.doubleredseadweller and this article.

Bear in mind that there are a LOT of counterfeit "Comex" Rolex watches out there, so always be sure to buy from a reliable seller and preferably get a Comex Rolex with papers.

Big A · 26 June 2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lol-x

Here is one for sale at present in Hong Kong. The price with box and documents is around US$200,000. It is a 5514, and has the gas escape valve, which ordinary 5513 general issue no-date Submariners do not have.

WOW I had no idea they were so expensive

Big A · 26 June 2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Here are some good sites for you to learn more about the Comex Subs and SD's:

www.doubleredseadweller and this article.

Bear in mind that there are a LOT of counterfeit "Comex" Rolex watches out there, so always be sure to buy from a reliable seller and preferably get a Comex Rolex with papers.

Excellent, thanks Bo, knew I could count on you

Would appear that the one I seen is likely a fake then with the yellow hands and hour markers. Would post a pic up but photobucket is down for maintenance just now

SPACE-DWELLER · 26 June 2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Big A

Excellent, thanks Bo, knew I could count on you

Would appear that the one I seen is likely a fake then with the yellow hands and hour markers. Would post a pic up but photobucket is down for maintenance just now

Not necessarily. If the Comex Rolex you saw has Tritium hands and dial, it is very likely that the Tritium markers have discoloured with age. See the article about "Rolex Lume" in the "Rolex Reference Library" section in the main forums' overview.

Trurolexer · 26 June 2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Here is one for sale at present in Hong Kong. The price with box and documents is around US$200,000. It is a 5514, and has the gas escape valve, which ordinary 5513 general issue no-date Submariners do not have.

WOW!!! FANTASTIC price!!!

Big A · 26 June 2008, 11:44 PM

At last photobucket is working again. Here is a pic of the one I seen recently. I really like it, but unsure of its authenticity.

daytona_mania · 27 June 2008, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Here is one for sale at present in Hong Kong. The price with box and documents is around US$200,000. It is a 5514, and has the gas escape valve, which ordinary 5513 general issue no-date Submariners do not have.

that looks stunning!

jac67 · 27 June 2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Big A

At last photobucket is working again. Here is a pic of the one I seen recently. I really like it, but unsure of its authenticity.

Well Andrew, that is definitely a piece of crap!

Love the dial, bezel, and especially the no crown guards...........CLASSIC!

John.

Tools · 27 June 2008, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jac67

Well Andrew, that is definitely a piece of crap!

Love the dial, bezel, and especially the no crown guards...........CLASSIC!

John.

Exactly..The earliest COMEX Subs were ~1970 5513's and all had crown guards.

Big A · 27 June 2008, 01:11 AM

I actually like the dial and yellow hands, but it was the bezel that didn't look right straight away, that why I started asking questions. Never even noticed it didn't have crown guards oops

CPTL · 27 June 2008, 02:17 AM

My sub has that same bezel--isn't it cool? The dealer I bought it from charged me extra because it's the limited edition with minute markers all the way around.

mike · 27 June 2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jac67

Well Andrew, that is definitely a piece of crap!

Love the dial, bezel, and especially the no crown guards...........CLASSIC!

John.

LOL!

Ed Rooney · 27 June 2008, 09:43 AM

I didn't know Comex had an office on Canal St.

mike · 27 June 2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Ed Rooney

I didn't know Comex had an office on Canal St.

Oh sure Ed, my AD has several,

Jedi · 27 June 2008, 12:11 PM

There's a listing in this month's IW magazine for a Sotheby's auction and the price fetched for a Comex was around USD500,000.00

Marrk · 27 June 2008, 04:15 PM

Question: The tube on the watch in this pic has a rubber seal. When new, my ca. 5513 did not have such a tube-and-seal. Mine was fitted with that tube-and-seal when it was serviced in 1989.

What's up with that 5514? Is it OEM and period correct, or has it been worked on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

Here is one for sale at present in Hong Kong. The price with box and documents is around US$200,000. It is a 5514, and has the gas escape valve, which ordinary 5513 general issue no-date Submariners do not have.

Lol-x · 27 June 2008, 04:17 PM

I only know what I posted about the watch, but if your 5513 had the seal upgrade on the tube, then I would be pretty confident that when the Comex 5514 was serviced the tube would have been similarly upgraded to have the rubber seal added..

SPACE-DWELLER · 27 June 2008, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Big A

At last photobucket is working again. Here is a pic of the one I seen recently. I really like it, but unsure of its authenticity.

Yeah, OK. Agreed. This is definately not the real McCoy.

Gurmot · 27 June 2008, 04:34 PM

I think the difference in tubes observed is due to RSC upgrading watches from twinlock to triplock. Lots of older subs which were originally fitted with the twinlock system were systematically "upgraded" when serviced. My 5513 from 1967 is one such case.

Another way to spot this is by looking at the coronet on the winding crown. Triplocks have 3 dots under the coronet. Twinlocks usually have a straight line like a "-" symbol.

Marrk · 27 June 2008, 04:40 PM

Thanks.

I quite agree and I didn't mean to imply anything aside from the fact that the pic in question may not be a Comex in it's original issue condition.

Which raises one last question: Is a 5514 nothing other than a 5513 with "Comex" printed on the dial?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gurmot

I think the difference in tubes observed is due to RSC upgrading watches from twinlock to triplock. Lots of older subs which were originally fitted with the twinlock system were systematically "upgraded" when serviced. My 5513 from 1967 is one such case.

Another way to spot this is by looking at the coronet on the winding crown. Triplocks have 3 dots under the coronet. Twinlocks usually have a straight line like a "-" symbol.

Baptistman · 27 June 2008, 05:04 PM

Heres a good site, this guy worked for Comex

http://diving-watch.org/

Lol-x · 27 June 2008, 05:20 PM

The 5514 does have the helium escape valve on the side of the case as per Sea-Dwellers.

jac67 · 27 June 2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marrk

Which raises one last question: Is a 5514 nothing other than a 5513 with "Comex" printed on the dial?

Steve has answered your question below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lol-x

The 5514 does have the helium escape valve on the side of the case as per Sea-Dwellers.

Yes agreed. But the 5513 Comex also have HEV's too.

The 5513 came first with the experimental HEV's, then Rolex specifically made the 5514 for Comex ONLY.

John.

arttay10 · 27 June 2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Big A

I actually like the dial and yellow hands, but it was the bezel that didn't look right straight away, that why I started asking questions. Never even noticed it didn't have crown guards oops

(Neither did I !!

)

watchlady · 28 June 2008, 01:29 AM

Thanks for the link. It fills in all the Comex details perfectly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baptistman

Heres a good site, this guy worked for Comex

http://diving-watch.org/

26 June 2008, 09:50 PM	#1
Big A "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Andrew Location: Glasgow, Scotland Watch: Tudor Submariner Posts: 130	Comex Sub Anyone know much about the Comex? Thought they were all like a normal Sub with "Comex" on the dial, but recently seen one with yellow markers and hands and a slightly different looking bezel, that looked fantastic. __________________ DSSD arrived

26 June 2008, 10:07 PM	#3
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Here are some good sites for you to learn more about the Comex Subs and SD's: www.doubleredseadweller and this article. Bear in mind that there are a LOT of counterfeit "Comex" Rolex watches out there, so always be sure to buy from a reliable seller and preferably get a Comex Rolex with papers. __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

26 June 2008, 11:44 PM	#8
Big A "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Andrew Location: Glasgow, Scotland Watch: Tudor Submariner Posts: 130	At last photobucket is working again. Here is a pic of the one I seen recently. I really like it, but unsure of its authenticity. __________________ DSSD arrived

27 June 2008, 01:11 AM	#12
Big A "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Andrew Location: Glasgow, Scotland Watch: Tudor Submariner Posts: 130	I actually like the dial and yellow hands, but it was the bezel that didn't look right straight away, that why I started asking questions. Never even noticed it didn't have crown guards oops __________________ DSSD arrived

27 June 2008, 02:17 AM	#13
CPTL "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Kevin Location: Texas on my mind Watch: Sub Date; SS/WG DJ Posts: 2,445	My sub has that same bezel--isn't it cool? The dealer I bought it from charged me extra because it's the limited edition with minute markers all the way around. __________________ 16610 Submariner Date; D Serial 16234 DateJust SS with WG Fluted Bezel & Jubillee, White Roman Dial; F Serial 16570 Explorer II White Dial; M Serial And Hers: 78240 Mid-Size DateJust SS with Domed Bezel & Oyster, White Roman; D Serial

27 June 2008, 09:43 AM	#15
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	I didn't know Comex had an office on Canal St.

27 June 2008, 12:11 PM	#17
Jedi "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Lee Location: Malaysia Watch: 16750 Posts: 2,534	There's a listing in this month's IW magazine for a Sotheby's auction and the price fetched for a Comex was around USD500,000.00 __________________ Lee This is my watch. There are many like it but this one is mine... Flickr Blog

27 June 2008, 04:17 PM	#19
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,269	I only know what I posted about the watch, but if your 5513 had the seal upgrade on the tube, then I would be pretty confident that when the Comex 5514 was serviced the tube would have been similarly upgraded to have the rubber seal added.. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

27 June 2008, 04:34 PM	#21
Gurmot Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Simon Location: UK Posts: 568	I think the difference in tubes observed is due to RSC upgrading watches from twinlock to triplock. Lots of older subs which were originally fitted with the twinlock system were systematically "upgraded" when serviced. My 5513 from 1967 is one such case. Another way to spot this is by looking at the coronet on the winding crown. Triplocks have 3 dots under the coronet. Twinlocks usually have a straight line like a "-" symbol.

27 June 2008, 05:04 PM	#23
Baptistman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Jon Location: UK Posts: 2,405	Heres a good site, this guy worked for Comex http://diving-watch.org/ __________________ Whatever the watch, it's your wrist, it speaks to you, enjoy it

27 June 2008, 05:20 PM	#24
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,269	The 5514 does have the helium escape valve on the side of the case as per Sea-Dwellers. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

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