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statsman · 4 April 2016, 05:51 AM

My father has lived an interesting life, for a Depression kid from the Texas panhandle. Today he gave me his old, non-running Lord Elgin Shockmaster. It's 14k gold filled, and was an award for winning a pistol match in 1958, sponsored by the Army Times. I would like to get it fixed up and running if possible. Does anybody know anything about this watch- the movement, if there are other movements that might fit if this can't be repaired, what horologists might work on it, and so on?

I'll post a pic later.

jatco · 4 April 2016, 07:53 AM

Do you know of a reputable watch maker in your area/Arlington..? Looks like quite a few in the Arlington area..
That would be my first step, to check a few out!
There may be a few members here on TRF from the area that may know of one..??
Anyone from the Arlington area out there that could assist...??

statsman · 4 April 2016, 09:29 AM

Do you think Phil Riddely could help? He did great on my dad's 1016. If this is 't what he does, maybe he could direct me?

jatco · 4 April 2016, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by statsman

Do you think Phil Riddely could help? He did great on my dad's 1016. If this is 't what he does, maybe he could direct me?

..Try contacting him, since he did work in the past for you/your dad.....!

statsman · 4 April 2016, 10:10 AM

adding photos...

statsman · 4 April 2016, 10:11 AM

MILGAUSS88 · 4 April 2016, 10:20 AM

Definitely alot of movements, used watches available, maybe cheaper to buy a running watch and have the dial and hands switched than to repair movement.
I would guess you could pick up a running watch in the $25-75 range.

statsman · 4 April 2016, 10:19 PM

In looking for info, I have seen dozens of images (eBay, watchuseek) of Lord Elgin Shockmasters with a sub second hand, and none like mine, with the second hand centered with the hours and minutes. So, either it is rarer, or so poorly made that few survived.

Also, I am sure it will cost more to fix it than it will be worth, but I'll do it anyway. I mean- it's my dad's watch. It's not like there is a store or website selling your dad's watch.

Widows Son · 5 April 2016, 03:35 AM

Send it to Mark at www.thewatchdoctor.com. Check his website and check his work on Facebook. He's done about a dozen vintage watches for me. I plan on sending him two Rolex's soon for overhaul.

MILGAUSS88 · 5 April 2016, 03:38 PM

Most Elgins have a 3 digit reference number on the movement.
If you open the back and get that number, then just search Elgin and refwrench number on ebay.
Should be able to find plenty for parts.

jatco · 6 April 2016, 12:08 AM

Finding parts is one thing, doing the repair is another...unless you are capable to do so.
I have my grandfather's old Hampden pocket watch that wasn't running and had my watchmaker
do the repairs. Wanted it as original as possible and working. ...just because. .!
If you're not a watchmaker, try and find one, imo.
Nice looking watch.
I have my dad's old Elgin. I'll attach a pic later...
Good luck...

jatco · 6 April 2016, 02:01 AM

My Dad's Elgin... C: 1947
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statsman · 6 April 2016, 12:18 PM

Phillip Riddely is on it now! He opened it up, and the movement is an Elgin 716 21 jewel movement.

jatco · 7 April 2016, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by statsman

Phillip Riddely is on it now! He opened it up, and the movement is an Elgin 716 21 jewel movement.

Great...!
Is he a local watchmaker. ..? And did he say what the problem/ issues are..?

statsman · 7 April 2016, 02:46 AM

Yes, I am fortunate enough to live in Arlington, the same town as Watchmakers Intl. Phillip restored my Rolex 1016. He took a look at it and agreed to restore the Lord Elgin. It was his initial impression that the non-functioning was due to lack of service (basically, Dad, a young SFC at the time, stopped getting it seviced after kids started getting born).

Side note- I am an aerospace engineer and we use "Clean Rooms" (shop areas with controlled access, controlled ventilation, controlled temperature, and strict rules of behavior in order to perform delicate operations that would be jeapordized by the slightest contamination of a foreign object). The WI shop is like a clean room- everything controlled, with a near OCD level of cleanliness and strict organization. Plus with really cool Rolex (their specialty) stuff.

jatco · 7 April 2016, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by statsman

Yes, I am fortunate enough to live in Arlington, the same town as Watchmakers Intl. Phillip restored my Rolex 1016. He took a look at it and agreed to restore the Lord Elgin. It was his initial impression that the non-functioning was due to lack of service (basically, Dad, a young SFC at the time, stopped getting it seviced after kids started getting born).

Side note- I am an aerospace engineer and we use "Clean Rooms" (shop areas with controlled access, controlled ventilation, controlled temperature, and strict rules of behavior in order to perform delicate operations that would be jeapordized by the slightest contamination of a foreign object). The WI shop is like a clean room- everything controlled, with a near OCD level of cleanliness and strict organization. Plus with really cool Rolex (their specialty) stuff.

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That Is great news. Something as special as that piece needs to be serviced and brought back to life. Since you used WI before, you know your watch is in good hands. Kudos to you.

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Just looked any Dad's, it has a 673 movement at 17 jewels..
My Mom gave it too my Dad in 1957 for their Anniversary..

statsman · 7 April 2016, 06:41 AM

Jatco, that is a really nice watch. The engraving and significance makes it an heirloom, a keeper, in my opinion.

jatco · 7 April 2016, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by statsman

Jatco, that is a really nice watch. The engraving and significance makes it an heirloom, a keeper, in my opinion.

Thanks statsman...
..It is a 'keeper' for sure. One of my favorites that I do wear once in a while, - just because.!!..

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Look forward to see yours once serviced..

statsman · 24 May 2016, 12:33 PM

Here it is!

jatco · 25 May 2016, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by statsman

Here it is!

WOW..... I love it.
Superb job on the restoration. Looks fantastic.
Kudos my friend. Enjoy it, which I'm sure you will. ...

bdex75 · 25 May 2016, 06:08 AM

Holy cow. Great job on the restoration. Enjoy it. Great to have that memory to pass down for many generations.

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statsman · 27 May 2016, 12:20 AM

Thanks. I'm very pleased with how it came out.

phillip ridley · 31 May 2016, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by statsman

Thanks. I'm very pleased with how it came out.

I am happy to hear that you are enjoying your father's watch. The watch looks fantastic.

4 April 2016, 05:51 AM	#1
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394	Lord Elgin Shockmaster My father has lived an interesting life, for a Depression kid from the Texas panhandle. Today he gave me his old, non-running Lord Elgin Shockmaster. It's 14k gold filled, and was an award for winning a pistol match in 1958, sponsored by the Army Times. I would like to get it fixed up and running if possible. Does anybody know anything about this watch- the movement, if there are other movements that might fit if this can't be repaired, what horologists might work on it, and so on? I'll post a pic later.

4 April 2016, 07:53 AM	#2
jatco 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: YVR Watch: 116233/79190 Posts: 48,567	Do you know of a reputable watch maker in your area/Arlington..? Looks like quite a few in the Arlington area.. That would be my first step, to check a few out! There may be a few members here on TRF from the area that may know of one..?? Anyone from the Arlington area out there that could assist...?? __________________ . . ' A Crown for every achievement '

6 April 2016, 12:08 AM	#11
jatco 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Thomas Location: YVR Watch: 116233/79190 Posts: 48,567	Finding parts is one thing, doing the repair is another...unless you are capable to do so. I have my grandfather's old Hampden pocket watch that wasn't running and had my watchmaker do the repairs. Wanted it as original as possible and working. ...just because. .! If you're not a watchmaker, try and find one, imo. Nice looking watch. I have my dad's old Elgin. I'll attach a pic later... Good luck... __________________ . . ' A Crown for every achievement '

4 April 2016, 09:29 AM	#3
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394	Do you think Phil Riddely could help? He did great on my dad's 1016. If this is 't what he does, maybe he could direct me?

4 April 2016, 10:10 AM	#5
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394	adding photos...

4 April 2016, 10:11 AM	#6
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394

4 April 2016, 10:20 AM	#7
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,987	Definitely alot of movements, used watches available, maybe cheaper to buy a running watch and have the dial and hands switched than to repair movement. I would guess you could pick up a running watch in the $25-75 range.

4 April 2016, 10:19 PM	#8
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394	In looking for info, I have seen dozens of images (eBay, watchuseek) of Lord Elgin Shockmasters with a sub second hand, and none like mine, with the second hand centered with the hours and minutes. So, either it is rarer, or so poorly made that few survived. Also, I am sure it will cost more to fix it than it will be worth, but I'll do it anyway. I mean- it's my dad's watch. It's not like there is a store or website selling your dad's watch.

5 April 2016, 03:35 AM	#9
Widows Son "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Hudson Ohio Posts: 3,557	Send it to Mark at www.thewatchdoctor.com. Check his website and check his work on Facebook. He's done about a dozen vintage watches for me. I plan on sending him two Rolex's soon for overhaul.

5 April 2016, 03:38 PM	#10
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,987	Most Elgins have a 3 digit reference number on the movement. If you open the back and get that number, then just search Elgin and refwrench number on ebay. Should be able to find plenty for parts.

6 April 2016, 12:18 PM	#13
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394	Phillip Riddely is on it now! He opened it up, and the movement is an Elgin 716 21 jewel movement.

7 April 2016, 02:46 AM	#15
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394	Yes, I am fortunate enough to live in Arlington, the same town as Watchmakers Intl. Phillip restored my Rolex 1016. He took a look at it and agreed to restore the Lord Elgin. It was his initial impression that the non-functioning was due to lack of service (basically, Dad, a young SFC at the time, stopped getting it seviced after kids started getting born). Side note- I am an aerospace engineer and we use "Clean Rooms" (shop areas with controlled access, controlled ventilation, controlled temperature, and strict rules of behavior in order to perform delicate operations that would be jeapordized by the slightest contamination of a foreign object). The WI shop is like a clean room- everything controlled, with a near OCD level of cleanliness and strict organization. Plus with really cool Rolex (their specialty) stuff.

7 April 2016, 06:41 AM	#17
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394	Jatco, that is a really nice watch. The engraving and significance makes it an heirloom, a keeper, in my opinion.

25 May 2016, 06:08 AM	#21
bdex75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Brandon Location: Indianapolis Watch: my money vanish Posts: 8,506	Holy cow. Great job on the restoration. Enjoy it. Great to have that memory to pass down for many generations. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

27 May 2016, 12:20 AM	#22
statsman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 394	Thanks. I'm very pleased with how it came out.

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