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PAM 533 v 233
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Of these two beauties, which would you choose and why? Cost is not an issue here because the difference is 'only' S$1,500 (GBP 875, USD 1,065)*. Images are screen shots from the Panerai website. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Go! *It's a significant amount of money, I know. I for one do not have money to set fire to. I have used the word 'only' and deliberately emphasised it in inverted commas because, in my humble view, the amount is academic when dropping that much on a watch ![]()
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I like the bigger numbers on the 233 and the manual (thinner) case. Does the new 233 still have the domed crystal?
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I like the 233 better because the dial is nicer and also it's cheaper
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Still dreaming of the 533, are we?
![]() To answer you question, though, I'd go 233 for the dome, manual wind, thinner case, size of the "12" and "6", lume color and balance of the dial (while I like the idea of the "9" of the 533, I find it crowds the dial). I also think a PR indicator on the dial makes more sense on a manual wind. But, you keep coming back to the 533, so who cares what some Internet forum guys think? ;-) |
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![]() It's still a few months off but I'll be picking up my final Pam at the end of July, just before Mrs P whisks me away on a surprise trip for my 50th birthday ( ![]() I've taken on board everything that my wife and my guy at the OP boutique have said in that I should get something different from my 359 and 689. As much as I like the 389 and love the 372, the 533 was the Panerai that twisted my head, like something out of The Exorcist movie, towards the brand. Also, I'm still haunted by the advice of Nicholas (1st AMG) when I began my hunt in June last year, where he basically said buy the one I want or things get expensive. Whatever else catches my eye, I still keep going back to the 533. Mrs Van D says that from ten metres away the 533 looks the same as my 359; so does the 372. Maybe. But from ten metres away, how many people can tell the difference between a black Sub and a black GMT? Do I need to have watches that look different? I don't think I do, but what I do believe is that I should have watches that I love having and love wearing ![]()
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^ I think you know what you must do.
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I like the 533. Couldn't tell you why, it just..."looks" better when I look at the two. I actually like the "9" on the dial. It...sings a sweeter tune to me is all.
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![]() That's an easy one; I don't like rose gold ![]() Quote:
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233, The original and best in my opinion and is and always will be a classic
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I do like the 9 on the dial, but the 233 pips it for me, for the reasons stated above
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I think you should buy the 372 for your 50th at 47mm
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If I do that Nick, I'll spend the rest of my life jonesing for the 533
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233 without a doubt
- nicer dial - green lumen - slightly thinner - 8 days manual, nicer view on the movement and nothing beats winding this 8 days - domed crystal - nicer hands In short, the 233 is a winner IMHO |
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I've tried on both and for some reason I much prefer the 533. Don't know why but it's such a beauty !!
How about the submersible (389) for a style bit different to what you already have ... ?? |
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Beautiful josh
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There's no doubt about it, the 233 is a fabulous piece and if Mrs Van D had bought me a five-slot box, one would be reserved for the 233.
It's interesting reading people's views though and it never ceases to amaze me how we view thing's differently. Let's take Maltie's opinions (I'm not picking on you my friend. It's just that you've set your views out in a list, which makes it easier for me to respond ![]() - nicer dial - I prefer the 533. I like that it has the 9. - green lumen - my 359 and 689 are both ecru but the lume shows green in the dark. As Cru will testify, I prefer ecru anyway. - slightly thinner - this could've been a deal breaker for me until I picked up my D-Blue. Nowadays, it's not an issue. - 8 days manual, nicer view on the movement and nothing beats winding this 8 days - I would indeed like the same view on the movement, so I'm with you on that one. Whilst I enjoy setting my watches, I can't imagine winding the 233 is any different from the 533. However, if there is a difference please let me know (OMG, I'm geeking out here! ![]() - domed crystal - with you on this one. I like the domed crystal because it makes the watch wear smaller. - nicer hands - I prefer the hands of the 533 because to me they're more balanced. The 233 has silver (I think) time hands but the GMT hand is black. That looks weird to me however, the hands of the 533 are all the same colour which is balanced. I like the stealth look of them being all blacked out too, which is a nice contrast to the gold hands on my 689. I do agree that the 233 is a classic, though. I liken it to Levi 501s; never in fashion, never out of fashion. It always has been and always will be. It's a constant, it's timeless and it just 'is'. I just prefer the 533, that's all. Thank you for your views, guys ![]() ![]()
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You will love the 692
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![]() I will most certainly try winding their 233, if they have one, just to feel the difference. That 692 does look sweet but it's going to have to be something special in the flesh to draw me away from the 533. Don't get me wrong here, there are several pieces that I love and would buy in a heartbeat. However, I'm only allowed one more PAM for now so it has to be something I'm going to love for a long time ![]()
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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=496854 Exactly. They had three in the boutique and I could've had one, no problem at all. Ok, it was the wrong time to buy but a tidy deposit would have secured it. Still couldn't see past the 533 though ![]()
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Aaaah yes, great thread! I guess I had just subconsciously blocked it, as seeing that watch brings out a drool reflex. ![]() I so enjoy the hunt for the right watch, so thanks for taking us along! Your birthday still seems so far away... ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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![]() I'm loving the hunt at the moment even though my birthday isn't until first week of August. I don't want to wish my life away but I'm so excited to see what I end up with. Unless there's something special that's going to get thrust under my nose in the next few months, it looks like one of the following: 1. 533 2. 389 3. 372 4. 692 5. 233 (I prefer the 533 in almost every way but I cannot write it off). ![]() ![]()
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Paul just buy the 533 if that's what you are set on, your the one that's going to wear it.
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533
![]() Fantastic watch and seems to be your preferable. Just please don't tell us that this would be your final Panerai ![]() Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk |
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![]() No dome crystal on the 233 anymore either, which was disappointing. Here's the poster from an AD that I poked my nose into, the one showing the 533 that nearly snapped my neck ![]()
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^ Nice pic!
No more dome for the 233??? Why, oh why, Panerai?!? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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