The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 27 July 2008, 07:10 PM   #1
Dubai
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: UAE
Posts: 232
Icon20 Next Daytona

Hi All i am new to this site and i'm wondering Do you Guys think the GV will be the Daytona ?
Dubai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 July 2008, 08:35 PM   #2
Lol-x
Facilitator
 
Lol-x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Real Name: Steve
Location: Omnipresent
Posts: 33,269
I doubt it as prices are coming down on the GV as there is more supply coming into circulation.
However, it is a function of supply and demand. If the supply is unable to satisfy demand, then there is a basis for some dealers and re-sellers to place a premium on the GV.
That's how I see it as being for the Daytona, supply just isn't enough to satisfy demand, and so retailers and re-sellers are able to sell the Daytona at a premium.
__________________

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be. ~Abraham Lincoln
Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy

ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim
Lol-x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 July 2008, 09:54 PM   #3
toph
"TRF" Member
 
toph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Real Name: ChrisTOPHer
Location: Sydney
Watch: Rolex, Brellum,
Posts: 12,601
I also do not think so. Depending on production levels and the length of production it could become a real collectors peice though. The price will depend on how many people want it? and the fact that there is a black and a white dial version will also, in my opinion, mean that a buyer can just take one of them instead.
__________________


"Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety."

Member No.# 11795
toph is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 July 2008, 09:57 PM   #4
ROLEX MAN
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
ROLEX MAN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Real Name: Martin
Location: land down under
Watch: you? "YES PLEASE"!
Posts: 3,685
I hate to say it but I think the GV is nothing special.


O.K. come on bring the nagging, and shoot me down!
__________________


it's not just about telling the time...

happy rolexing...



I'm just a man with a passion
ROLEX MAN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 July 2008, 11:08 PM   #5
BigHat
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Real Name: Matt
Location: Arlington, VA
Watch: Lange One MP
Posts: 4,043
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROLEX MAN View Post


O.K. come on bring the nagging, and shoot me down!

Like many, it took awhile for ANY Milie to appeal to me. You ain't out of the woods yet !!

It's pretty nice but I prefer the white one.

Have never seen a GV i person. The idea of the green crystal is a pretty good one, but the last thing I needed was another ss watch with a black dial no matter what color crystal it has.
BigHat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 July 2008, 11:18 PM   #6
marshallr47
"TRF" Member
 
marshallr47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Real Name: Ron
Location: Alabama
Watch: Daytona,TT Sub,GMT
Posts: 4,673
I have heard that the GV would be the next Daytona but I'd have to say I don't think so. There's to much of a history behind it. But I guess only time will tell.
__________________
Ron
marshallr47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 July 2008, 11:22 PM   #7
Milgauss-Green
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Real Name: Fide
Location: Miami,fl
Watch: JLCoultre Master C
Posts: 183
I do not think so
__________________
JAEGER-LECOULTRE Master Compressor Cronograph
175.84.7V xxx/746 Valentino Rossi
16613 Sub Serti,16710 Pepsi,16710 Coke,
116400 GV
TX Worldtimer xx/100
Milgauss-Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 12:02 AM   #8
Dubai
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: UAE
Posts: 232
It's true that it's matter of supply and demand, but C'mon Guys have a look at ebay and see how much they are asking for the GV, i personally went to many rolex AD's in the UAE and Europ and the answer is that same That waiting list of this watch getting bigger and bigger and Guess what some of the salesmen's say nowadays it easier to get the SS Daytona than the GV !!
Dubai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 12:11 AM   #9
thecoinopcollector
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pa
Posts: 409
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubai View Post
Hi All i am new to this site and i'm wondering Do you Guys think the GV will be the Daytona ?
The Daytona isn't even the "next Daytona" any more. SS white and black's can be found for sale on every Rolex and watch buletin board for about a grand over MSRP and it looks to me like they are NOT selling. In fact my AD sales lady told me yesterday that before the price increase they would get at least 4 calls a day looking for an SS Daytona. She said since the price increase they don't even get 4 calls a week. (Disclaimer: all AD sales speak must be taken w/ a grain of salt)


Marc
thecoinopcollector is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 12:15 AM   #10
BigHat
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Real Name: Matt
Location: Arlington, VA
Watch: Lange One MP
Posts: 4,043
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubai View Post
It's true that it's matter of supply and demand, but C'mon Guys have a look at ebay and see how much they are asking for the GV, i personally went to many rolex AD's in the UAE and Europ and the answer is that same That waiting list of this watch getting bigger and bigger and Guess what some of the salesmen's say nowadays it easier to get the SS Daytona than the GV !!
Sadly, we can't get accurate production and shipping data. I'm reluctant to act on eBay trends as the prices there are hopes and prayers more than reality. You can't dispute the fact that SL and some of the other GMs are paying less for new ones and selling them at reduced prices.

Let's not forgot the fact that we buy Rolexes and other fine watches because we love them. The status seekers are often late to the party and desire them only because they are hard to get, that might be a pop in the market, but again the trend seems down, not up.
If I had a GV that I purchased only to flip it, I'd be acting VERY quickly to move it ASAP.
BigHat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 12:23 AM   #11
Milgauss-Green
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Real Name: Fide
Location: Miami,fl
Watch: JLCoultre Master C
Posts: 183
Lot of people are looking for the GV to resale it and the profit is more with GV than Daytona,but the profit has been reduced,it start around 18K and you can see it now for 9 and 10 K in ebay,supposing they are real and there is not a scammer selling it.Besides both are watches in current production that at least you have the hope to get it.But what about the gmt master II that they do not do it anymore,what will happen in price increase in a year specially the ones with stick 16710-3186
__________________
JAEGER-LECOULTRE Master Compressor Cronograph
175.84.7V xxx/746 Valentino Rossi
16613 Sub Serti,16710 Pepsi,16710 Coke,
116400 GV
TX Worldtimer xx/100
Milgauss-Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 12:29 AM   #12
wean_sg
"TRF" Member
 
wean_sg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: South East Asia
Posts: 25
Here in my country there is NO CHANCE of getting either a Daytona or Milgauss GV at retail.

Heck, even the 116710 is being sold over retail!
wean_sg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 08:24 AM   #13
learnmore60
"TRF" Member
 
learnmore60's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK
Watch: Love the Vintage
Posts: 363
No dont think so, but possibly the DSSD?
learnmore60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 09:45 AM   #14
moby33
"TRF" Member
 
moby33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Huntington Beach
Watch: Rolex/Omega/Seiko
Posts: 2,560
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROLEX MAN View Post
I hate to say it but I think the GV is nothing special.


O.K. come on bring the nagging, and shoot me down!
No nagging from me, I agree. It's a pretty cool watch, but I agree that the hype seems to exceed the actual watch.

And as for the next Daytona question - NO WAY. There is only one Daytona and it will ALWAYS be the King of Rolex IMO.

Now...if only Rolex would be nice enough and put a date window on one I would be an owner in a flash, but until then, it's very unlikely I'll ever buy it. Oh well...somehow I don't think Rolex is sweatin losing Moby33 as a Daytona owner.
moby33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 11:11 AM   #15
nickp
"TRF" Member
 
nickp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Kentucky
Watch: SS Black Daytona
Posts: 274
Correct me if im wrong, im not up on history of Rolex very much. I had an AD that said when the Milgauss originally came out they just sat in the case because nobody wanted them. They finally discontinued them and brought them back many years later. If this is true how can the Milgauss possibly compete with the Daytona?
__________________
nickp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 11:16 AM   #16
frostie
1,000,000th PostMember
 
frostie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Earth
Posts: 14,048
If rolex people want to make the millgauss the next daytona they will it's up to them trust me
__________________



GMT - Master II C - 116710 LN
frostie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 12:52 PM   #17
RolexSoFla
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: GMT-5
Watch: SS Daytona, ND Sub
Posts: 269
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickp View Post
Correct me if im wrong, im not up on history of Rolex very much. I had an AD that said when the Milgauss originally came out they just sat in the case because nobody wanted them. They finally discontinued them and brought them back many years later. If this is true how can the Milgauss possibly compete with the Daytona?
It can't. Milgauss's are sitting in AD cases unsold.
RolexSoFla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 July 2008, 12:52 PM   #18
Z-Sub
2024 Pledge Member
 
Z-Sub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: So Cal, USA
Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man
Posts: 7,383
I don't think it will even though the green crystal is very special.
I think the Daytona look appeal to more folks. just MHO.
__________________
SS Submariner Date "Z"
SS SeaDweller "D"
SS Submariner "Random"
TT Blue Submariner "P"
SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi
Pam 311, 524, 297
Z-Sub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 July 2008, 04:17 AM   #19
veilstylez
"TRF" Member
 
veilstylez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: so cali
Posts: 1,253
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickp View Post
Correct me if im wrong, im not up on history of Rolex very much. I had an AD that said when the Milgauss originally came out they just sat in the case because nobody wanted them. They finally discontinued them and brought them back many years later. If this is true how can the Milgauss possibly compete with the Daytona?
I also heard that the when the cosmo daytonas were released like 20yrs back or whatever they were sitting in ADs cases and not being sold as well. Didnt they discontinue them then bring back as well? If thats true look how that turned out. But honestly, I dont think it will be the next Daytona, as the Daytona has been the Daytona for last 10yrs, but I did hear that the GV's will be "like" the Daytona by only give 2-3 GV's per AD per year. I only hope that it will be "like" the Daytona
veilstylez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 July 2008, 08:31 AM   #20
veefour
"TRF" Member
 
veefour's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Canary Islands
Posts: 520
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROLEX MAN View Post
I hate to say it but I think the GV is nothing special.


O.K. come on bring the nagging, and shoot me down!
I won't
I only like "Rolex green" on the boxes. Not on the watches (Sub LV, GMT IIc, MillGV)
__________________
16800 Matt (1986)
Avatar pic by Jocke
veefour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 July 2008, 09:59 AM   #21
Spare201
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Real Name: Spare201
Location: U.S.A.
Watch: 1970 Day-Date
Posts: 197
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickp View Post
Correct me if im wrong, im not up on history of Rolex very much. I had an AD that said when the Milgauss originally came out they just sat in the case because nobody wanted them. They finally discontinued them and brought them back many years later. If this is true how can the Milgauss possibly compete with the Daytona?
The only reason is because it is the new "IT" watch. Rolex has hyped it throught the roof. Look at the New GMTIIc, the Deep Sea when it comes out. For a while the Sub-date was a sixmonth back order. It is all Horse crap in my opinion. It's truly about having some watches you can deal on and a few that are cash cow "buddy" watches.

The tale about the original is truth though. The original one didn't really fit with the rest of the line. it was thick clunky and kinda ugly. AD couldn't give them away, just like everything Rolex though they are now very valuable in the second hand market.

The new one is kind of retarded though. The Parachrome HS makes having a milgaus kinda; I dunno, redundant? When the parachrome HS goes to the rest of the line all of them will be impervious to magnetic fields. It is HYPE, only HYPE.
Spare201 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 September 2008, 07:14 AM   #22
j5jts
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Real Name: Jason
Location: uk
Posts: 30
hi i have just sold a white face milgauss and purchased a GV, personally I thought the white face looks better but in the uk they are hard to get so having one was a must have (a watch manager told me that the gv sold for £12,000 but when i got one he said that they were available this was 5 days later, it was all BS, he says that i would have to spend 20k before i can get a ss daytona), still after a white face daytona and willing to pay over the odds but not a lot around!!, I also have a steel and gold daytona which looks great!
j5jts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17 September 2008, 04:27 PM   #23
Klokke
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 125
An economist would say that the rapidly downward trending GV price actually does suggest that the watch is becoming less hard to get. This is exactly what we are seeing. Prices are lower because increased supply has decreased demand. Or decreased demand has increased the supply. Either way, the GV does not appear to be as hard to get as it was only a few weeks ago.

The GV Milgauss is a very cool Rolex but it is not going to be like the SS Daytona, just as the GMT II-C did not become like the SS Daytona despite initial speculation. There's only one Rolex like the SS Daytona and it's called the SS Daytona. The Daytona has more of a history than the Milgauss. The demand and scarcity of the SS Daytona have steadily increased over more than a decade. It is clearly not a fad. The big auction house sold a '71 "Albino" Daytona for $505,000 on April 23, 2008. I doubt a Milie has ever sold for much more than a tenth of that number. The Daytona is a legend.

With the SS GMT II-C and now with the GV Milgauss and the SDDS we see a short burst of high demand at retail launch followed by a sharp drop in price back towards list price. We have no access to Rolex production numbers, shipments, or AD sales. Anecdotal evidence from one AD who may or may not have an agenda is not objective. The current market prices tell the true story and are the only objective measures of supply and demand. GV prices are down because demand is down. SS Daytona prices have been have been over list for years. Waiting lists for SS Daytonas are years long and that's if you are a good customer.

Don't be upset if you are one who paid way over list for your Milgauss. You don't need GV prices to stay high to justify what you paid. You obviously like the GV and didn't want to wait for it. For that you paid extra. It is apparent now, as shown by the big price drops, that those willing to do that were few and they have either gotten their GV or changed their mind. Enjoy your GV and don't worry if it's not the "next Daytona."
Klokke is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches

Wrist Aficionado

Bernard Watches

Takuya Watches

Asset Appeal


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.