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lioist37 · 21 December 2018, 04:37 AM

let me know what u all think of the new design, including skeleton lug, octagon shape case and deep deep blue dial.

The new base movement is also coming, new caliber is named cal.4302, will be used for time and date, fly back chronograph models, maybe more.

tyler1980 · 21 December 2018, 04:45 AM

i like it..

if thats the name though, i change my vote. "code" is that confirmed? Sounds like cologne. Armani is going to go ballistic

jdkrut · 21 December 2018, 05:04 AM

I like it but so hard to create a new, commercially successful model.

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SMD · 21 December 2018, 05:59 AM

Will reserve judgment until I see it but probably not something I would purchase.

Burlington · 21 December 2018, 06:22 AM

From what has been shown so far i really like the use of the octagonal mid case. Am very curious how this will look on the finished piece when unveiled at SIHH.

AK797 · 21 December 2018, 06:35 AM

Lugs look quite creative, wonder if it works IRL.

Burlington · 21 December 2018, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Lugs look quite creative, wonder if it works IRL.

Yes they do - is this a first to have hollowed out lugs, or has it been done before ?

AltiTudor · 21 December 2018, 07:10 AM

It looks a lot like what De Bethune does with their lugs.

Burlington · 21 December 2018, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AltiTudor

It looks a lot like what De Bethune does with their lugs.

Ah yes - can certainly see some inspiration.

Analysing You · 21 December 2018, 09:17 AM

Surely that can’t be the name? If that is the name I won’t go near it. Otherwise I do like the case

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masterserg · 21 December 2018, 09:24 AM

I wouldn't buy it and I think it's a terrible name ... but from an aesthetics POV, I like it.

benlee · 21 December 2018, 10:30 AM

From pic, I don't like it but when come to AP watches, I have been proven wrong in the past, so I reserve judgement until I see it irl. Actually, the reverse applied at times as well.

porschejeff · 21 December 2018, 11:12 AM

I was on AP website and wondered what they meant by the slogan "Crack the Code"

Starwalker · 21 December 2018, 11:14 AM

I think I like it has much as the 4101 Millenary. However, those weren’t a run away success!

jnelson3097 · 21 December 2018, 11:54 AM

Retail is $69,500 on that model

tyler1980 · 21 December 2018, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jnelson3097

Retail is $69,500 on that model

seems low vs a comparable Patek PC on a strap

bluebeamer · 21 December 2018, 01:59 PM

need more visuals...

AK797 · 22 December 2018, 06:24 AM

Code better be a working title.

Ar_Mi · 22 December 2018, 11:36 AM

All depends on how that 42mm will look on the wrist, and how that octagon shaped mid case will look. Im certain its going to be more of a commercial success than the Millenary or the Jules Audemars, thats for sure.

mobster600 · 23 December 2018, 07:29 AM

Strays away from the AP look. You buy an AP for its signature, unique look. If I wanted a round case, AP wouldnt be it.

My message to AP- Stick to your roots, thats why people love AP.

Panerai is trying the pinky out while drinking models, Panerai Due's. Same comparison, Im not buying a dressy Panerai......simply not going to happen.

kingofthehill · 23 December 2018, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobster600

Strays away from the AP look. You buy an AP for its signature, unique look. If I wanted a round case, AP wouldnt be it.

My message to AP- Stick to your roots, thats why people love AP.

Panerai is trying the pinky out while drinking models, Panerai Due's. Same comparison, Im not buying a dressy Panerai......simply not going to happen.

With due respect, Audemars Piguet's roots run far deeper and more broadly than the Royal Oak.

Burlington · 23 December 2018, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobster600

My message to AP- Stick to your roots, thats why people love AP.

Remember though they did have rather a long history before Genta came along to ‘save’ the brand during the quartz crises.

It was just round and rectangular watches before then.

But yes certainly agree modern day AP is very much defined by the case design and octagonal bezel.

Massive challenge to break out of a brand recognition/ expectation like that - am very curious how the new design will land for them.

karasus · 23 December 2018, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobster600

Strays away from the AP look. You buy an AP for its signature, unique look. If I wanted a round case, AP wouldnt be it.

My message to AP- Stick to your roots, thats why people love AP.

Panerai is trying the pinky out while drinking models, Panerai Due's. Same comparison, Im not buying a dressy Panerai......simply not going to happen.

AP roots date way before the Royal Oak and Royal Oak offshore. Just look at some of past watch's and you will see that AP is rooted in traditional watch making.

Just look at this recent auction:https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberta.../#154b40ca11d2

Fank Sinitra wore an AP, and it wasn't a Royal Oak.

HK Islandboy · 23 December 2018, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingofthehill

With due respect, Audemars Piguet's roots run far deeper and more broadly than the Royal Oak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burlington

Remember though they did have rather a long history before Genta came along to ‘save’ the brand during the quartz crises.

It was just round and rectangular watches before then.

But yes certainly agree modern day AP is very much defined by the case design and octagonal bezel.

Massive challenge to break out of a brand recognition/ expectation like that - am very curious how the new design will land for them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by karasus

AP roots date way before the Royal Oak and Royal Oak offshore. Just look at some of past watch's and you will see that AP is rooted in traditional watch making.

Just look at this recent auction:https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberta.../#154b40ca11d2

Fank Sinitra wore an AP, and it wasn't a Royal Oak.

Agreed!

To reinforce that point, I did a quick flip through AP’s book on 20th century complicated wristwatches, described here : https://www.watchcollectinglifestyle...es-a-must-have

There are some amazing pieces shown in here.

I do love my RO and ROOs, but for the long term health of the brand, AP needs to draw on this amazing heritage and selectively broaden its line.

tyler1980 · 23 December 2018, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burlington

Remember though they did have rather a long history before Genta came along to ‘save’ the brand during the quartz crises.

It was just round and rectangular watches before then.

But yes certainly agree modern day AP is very much defined by the case design and octagonal bezel.

Massive challenge to break out of a brand recognition/ expectation like that - am very curious how the new design will land for them.

yep. AP would have gone under w/o the Royal Oak by almost all accounts, but it certainly isnt the only style they can do or have done.

It saved them, but it shouldn't define them

GoingPlaces · 24 December 2018, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karasus

AP roots date way before the Royal Oak and Royal Oak offshore. Just look at some of past watch's and you will see that AP is rooted in traditional watch making.

Just look at this recent auction:https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberta.../#154b40ca11d2

Fank Sinitra wore an AP, and it wasn't a Royal Oak.

Didn't know that about Sinatra, very cool to know. This is a great example of the problem, so many people know the brand in a very narrow scope and don't appreciate the brand's lineage.

ragsk · 24 December 2018, 01:07 AM

Has anyone got a pic of this watch / collection?

tyler1980 · 24 December 2018, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ragsk

Has anyone got a pic of this watch / collection?

there was one in the OP's post and then it disappeared

Burlington · 24 December 2018, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragsk

Has anyone got a pic of this watch / collection?

It was on the front page of their website - but just teaser photos half obscured by shadows.

Fat_ninja · 24 December 2018, 03:10 AM

Not sure i feel it, but im going to withhold judgement

21 December 2018, 04:45 AM	#2
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	i like it.. if thats the name though, i change my vote. "code" is that confirmed? Sounds like cologne. Armani is going to go ballistic __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

21 December 2018, 06:22 AM	#5
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,638	From what has been shown so far i really like the use of the octagonal mid case. Am very curious how this will look on the finished piece when unveiled at SIHH. __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

21 December 2018, 09:24 AM	#11
masterserg "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Serg Location: US of A Watch: AP Posts: 7,428	I wouldn't buy it and I think it's a terrible name ... but from an aesthetics POV, I like it. __________________ How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat????

21 December 2018, 10:30 AM	#12
benlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Ben Location: SIN & JKT Watch: Rolex, AP, PP Posts: 9,873	From pic, I don't like it but when come to AP watches, I have been proven wrong in the past, so I reserve judgement until I see it irl. Actually, the reverse applied at times as well. __________________ Follow me on Instagram : benlee789

21 December 2018, 11:12 AM	#13
porschejeff "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Michigan Watch: DD 228238 Posts: 2,456	I was on AP website and wondered what they meant by the slogan "Crack the Code" __________________ Rolex DD 228238 Daytona 116515 (sold) AP 15710 Rolex 116710 BLNR And a few others...

21 December 2018, 04:37 AM	#1
lioist37 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Philly Posts: 1	What do you think of the new "CODE" collection from AP? let me know what u all think of the new design, including skeleton lug, octagon shape case and deep deep blue dial. The new base movement is also coming, new caliber is named cal.4302, will be used for time and date, fly back chronograph models, maybe more.

21 December 2018, 05:04 AM	#3
jdkrut "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Josh Location: Florida Watch: Audemars Piguet Posts: 156	I like it but so hard to create a new, commercially successful model. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 December 2018, 05:59 AM	#4
SMD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: SMD Location: LGA/EWR/ORD Watch: AP/PP Posts: 3,683	Will reserve judgment until I see it but probably not something I would purchase.

21 December 2018, 06:35 AM	#6
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,294	Lugs look quite creative, wonder if it works IRL.

21 December 2018, 07:10 AM	#8
AltiTudor "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 51	It looks a lot like what De Bethune does with their lugs.

21 December 2018, 09:17 AM	#10
Analysing You "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: London Posts: 534	Surely that can’t be the name? If that is the name I won’t go near it. Otherwise I do like the case Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

21 December 2018, 11:14 AM	#14
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,239	I think I like it has much as the 4101 Millenary. However, those weren’t a run away success! __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

21 December 2018, 11:54 AM	#15
jnelson3097 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Justin Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,307	Retail is $69,500 on that model

21 December 2018, 01:59 PM	#17
bluebeamer "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Asia Posts: 409	need more visuals...

22 December 2018, 06:24 AM	#18
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,294	Code better be a working title.

22 December 2018, 11:36 AM	#19
Ar_Mi "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Dubai/Los Angeles Watch: a few Posts: 593	All depends on how that 42mm will look on the wrist, and how that octagon shaped mid case will look. Im certain its going to be more of a commercial success than the Millenary or the Jules Audemars, thats for sure.

23 December 2018, 07:29 AM	#20
mobster600 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: USA Watch: Yes Posts: 1,481	Strays away from the AP look. You buy an AP for its signature, unique look. If I wanted a round case, AP wouldnt be it. My message to AP- Stick to your roots, thats why people love AP. Panerai is trying the pinky out while drinking models, Panerai Due's. Same comparison, Im not buying a dressy Panerai......simply not going to happen.

24 December 2018, 01:07 AM	#27
ragsk Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: USA Posts: 1,505	Has anyone got a pic of this watch / collection?

24 December 2018, 03:10 AM	#30
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	Not sure i feel it, but im going to withhold judgement

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