YM II Future Classic Collectible?

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by Bxtek

Could be a good investment and you could be laughing all the way to the bank in 10-20 years! One question for you though.....How do you feel about the YM II yourself? Are you a fan? Forget about price and values for a second, would you buy and wear it strictly for the style and size?

I own the one in the wrist shot above. I started the thread when I realized just how polarizing I have discovered the YM II is on TRF

As for investment, I think I'd rather buy some real estate which you can pretty much guarantee that it will increase in 10, 15, 20 years. Take the profit from that later on and buy a few Rolexes that you actually like and will enjoy! Plus, during the 10, 15, 20 years you can rent out the properties and have money returning to you. Just my 2 cents.



Exactly how I feel. I think people should buy a watch because they like it and will enjoy it, not strictly on potential investment return. If the value does increase while you own a particular watch, consider it an additional bonus!

I own the one in the wrist shot above. I started the thread when I realized just how polarizing I have discovered the YM II is on TRF

[Bobby T]

Unfortunately, a Rolex doesn't get much worse looking than a YM II

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by Bobby T

Unfortunately, a Rolex doesn't get much worse looking than a YM II

Bobby T, objectively, what don’t you like about the YM II? Also, it would be useful to get an idea which Rolex model(s) you are comparing to, when you mention aesthetics? Very interested to know. Thanks.

[inadeje]

Currently at 20% of our community thinks this will be a classic, any more votes?

[Bxtek]

Originally Posted by inadeje

I own the one in the wrist shot above. I started the thread when I realized just how polarizing I have discovered the YM II is on TRF

Oops, I missed that somehow. Looks good on you! I haven't been following the YM II too closely and the different variations, but I've never seen that particular one before. I like that bezel much more than the blue one that I see most of the times. The red hand against that dial looks sharp! Maybe another reason why I don't care for the YM II is that it takes the right kinda person to pull off wearing one. I'm definitely not one. At 44mm, it's way too big for my wrist. I tried one on before and it looks like I'm wearing a clown watch. More power to the people who can wear one of these comfortably!

[diracpoint]

Originally Posted by inadeje

Full disclosure

Looks great on you. That is the most rare version of Ym-2. I have the ss one and love it. Re future collectibility, some people (such as Tim Mosso at Watchbox, TRF mod Tools) think that YM-2 has a very high chance of being a future collectible. (Link: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=293048). However, it might take 30-40 years after it is discontinued (if at all that happens). I'm pretty sure I won't be kicking around that time to count the money :-) Just enjoying it for the moment ...

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by Bxtek

Oops, I missed that somehow. Looks good on you! I haven't been following the YM II too closely and the different variations, but I've never seen that particular one before. I like that bezel much more than the blue one that I see most of the times. The red hand against that dial looks sharp! Maybe another reason why I don't care for the YM II is that it takes the right kinda person to pull off wearing one. I'm definitely not one. At 44mm, it's way too big for my wrist. I tried one on before and it looks like I'm wearing a clown watch. More power to the people who can wear one of these comfortably!

Thats bxtek, apreciate your candid comments and clarity. The watch does wear large but, no larger than say a base 44 panerai. This is all irrelevant if the wrist cannot handle the size of a watch and, I 100% agree that a too big watch looks quirky. Ive tried some of the bigger 50mm watches and they look clownish on me as you say. My panerai bronzo is 47mm yet that doesn’t look as large as it is.

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by diracpoint

Looks great on you. That is the most rare version of Ym-2. I have the ss one and love it. Re future collectibility, some people (such as Tim Mosso at Watchbox, TRF mod Tools) think that YM-2 has a very high chance of being a future collectible. (Link: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=293048). However, it might take 30-40 years after it is discontinued (if at all that happens). I'm pretty sure I won't be kicking around that time to count the money :-) Just enjoying it for the moment ...

That watch looks stunning on you, congrats. As I already have the smurf sub, I didn’t want another blue bezel watch (one is enough) so I fell for the platinum bezel wg YM II. I think that variant tones down somewhat the watch and I like that.

[inadeje]

A spirit clairvoyant told me that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Wilsdorf is unhappy with this show of strength on TRF, we need more votes :)

[mjr24]

What more do you need to see that you didn’t already know? The YM is a nice watch but a high majority of the people don’t like it and don’t think it looks nice....hence the lower demand. It’s never going to be a classic anything.

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by mjr24

What more do you need to see that you didn’t already know? The YM is a nice watch but a high majority of the people don’t like it and don’t think it looks nice....hence the lower demand. It’s never going to be a classic anything.

Thanks mjr24. However, I feel a little perspective and equation is required to invalidate these views. Rolex manufacture +20 variants. If we then consider that those, say 20, be equal to 100% of the rolex aficionados offering their opinion. We can easily conclude that with +/- 20% of the current vote, the YM II is well above average in the appeal stakes.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by inadeje

Thanks mjr24. However, I feel a little perspective and equation is required to invalidate these views. Rolex manufacture +20 variants. If we then consider that those, say 20, be equal to 100% of the rolex aficionados offering their opinion. We can easily conclude that with +/- 20% of the current vote, the YM II is well above average in the appeal stakes.

I have no idea what you just said.

[zjd168]

YM II is pretty unique and I actually like it. The major concern is obviously the price, the most expensive MSRP SS Rolex. Other than the diehard fans or riches, WIS mostly prefer other options at this price range (almost 20k when tax included for a SS watch). And historically speaking, very expensive Rolex models can hardly become collectibles, just saying, in general. Of course I am not saying YM 2 can't be an exception and becomes a hot price in the future.

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I have no idea what you just said.

Wrote.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by inadeje

Wrote.

Semantics.

[cli575]

my bet is yes. any rolex with a unique feature has a good chance to become a classic. Most of the time general public will just follow the recent trend which can't be blamed. Most of the time classic just came out of the blue or a sudden marketing gimmick. Who knows, maybe one day Brad Pitt wears one to the supermarket and someone posted on IG and boom!

[RolexFan007]

Very nice watch overall...

[Speed]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I don't know whether or not it will become a future collectible. I do know I have no use for it now, and can't foresee having a need for it at a later time.

This

[Brny11]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

I don't know whether or not it will become a future collectible. I do know I have no use for it now, and can't foresee having a need for it at a later time.

I honestly don’t see why not. Of course if you polled a Paul Newman back before it was called a Paul Newman it would receive 90% No in your poll. I am not sure yacht master will ever reach the popularity as a Daytona. I think after it is no longer in production (if the day ever comes), it is obviously produced less, it is unpopular and thus may be hard to obtain down the road. So the supply side of the supply demand chart will be there. It is hard to see demand picking up, but if it does, absolutely.


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[1watch]

I highly doubt it will be considered a collectible in the future


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[timedate]

it is the worst looking watch i have ever seen.

cant see it becoming a classic.

[R!$]

daytona prices are falling and sub prices are back to normal

the correction is taking place

[1watch]

Originally Posted by R!$

daytona prices are falling and sub prices are back to normal



the correction is taking place

Which references are you referring to?


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[PatronMTL]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

Food for thought on Rolex as an investment

Not sure of prices back then but just say for arguments sake

ExpII assume $1500 back in 1977. invest in DowJones when it was 831 points back in 1977 to today 23000 at 2018 would net you $41k (which is more than the $29k)

Coke assume $2000 back in 1987. invest in DowJones at 1938 points would yield you $24k (which is more than the $19k)

you forget the implied value of use..... you can wear a watch at the same time as it gains value....cant wear the DOW

but ya, money wise markets will always be better until the end of capitalism (or the world as we know it)

[PatronMTL]

Originally Posted by inadeje

Currently at 20% of our community thinks this will be a classic, any more votes?

im pretty sure all the yes votes are from YMII owners...

for this same reason, i voted yes lol

what i always wondered was what was what had more influence on the main reason for the low sales/ the fact that you can always find one at retail whne all SS are sold out:

-the look of the YMII
or
-the fact it costs double the price of a sub or gmt

[cli575]

Originally Posted by R!$

daytona prices are falling and sub prices are back to normal

the correction is taking place

seriously?

[inadeje]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I don’t think the zenith Daytona was languishing at ADs that was the 4 digits.

It was. They didn’t sell, as was the case with the Paul Newman

[nikesupremedunk]

No one knows for sure but it's a beautiful reference. I've seen plenty of Rolexes that look amazing in photos but comes nowhere close in person. The YM2 was the opposite of that for me, it looked ok in photos but it was striking in person.