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21 January 2019, 06:09 AM | #31 |
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So is that the watch in question in my link? Says that watch sold 12/31. When did the buyer actually receive the watch given the Holiday delays? If same watch then buyer has had it about 2 weeks not a month. And where is the feedback? Not seeing anything in the Who's who section?
So far, I'm not seeing any evidence that the OP is being scammed. Guess both parties will need to let the PP process runs its course. Buyer will not be able to dictate the return of funds before return of watch. |
21 January 2019, 06:11 AM | #32 |
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I believe there was a post last week asking about a rotor noise? Can recall the details. If the purchaser is reading this, my Big Block has the veritable 7750 and the rotor noise is definitely a feature. Very sorry OP, hope this turns out well for you.
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21 January 2019, 06:14 AM | #33 |
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Good luck. Hope it works out
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21 January 2019, 06:26 AM | #34 |
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I've used PP to purchase items for well over a decade. I only had to return an item on two occasions and in both of those, I had to return the item before PP would give me a refund.
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21 January 2019, 06:34 AM | #35 |
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Tell the buyer you will film the opening of the box at Paypal's explicit request so that should stop him trying to send you some rubbish. Film it by all means as well and this can be used with paypal to uncover this scam. And be sure to tell Paypal now that you are suspicious of this outcome so it is in their notes, and it will all line up that this is a scam and they will most likely find in your favour then.
If the watch is damaged however or not working then they will probably side with the buyer, but at least you have the watch. |
21 January 2019, 07:09 AM | #36 | |
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21 January 2019, 07:10 AM | #37 |
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PayPal has created a easy scam with there policy. 180 return policy get real and they favour the buyer every time. I avoid them on high ticket items. I wish you the best
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21 January 2019, 07:16 AM | #38 |
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21 January 2019, 07:49 AM | #39 | |
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Yeah, I'm kinda confused now. Thought it was on ebay, but his last feedback received on trf was 12/26 and it was from an established member. I'm not finding, the said positive feedback for the OP on here anyway. |
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21 January 2019, 08:57 AM | #40 | |
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Guys, pls stop over analyzing, lol. 1. Upon closer inspection he sent me positive feedback in a PM. I'll post a screenshot shortly. He also said he did the same in the reputation forum, but I can't find it. Guess I trusted he did and never looked since I got the PM. oh well...seems to be par for the course now with this buyer (i.e. no trust) 2. I'll also post the watch listing. 3. We did the deal late December he received it 1.2 at which time I received a glowing thank you PM from the buyer. Again, I'll post more specifics shortly but prefer to let this play out with PayPal first since there appears to be multiple avenues this can go. Tks again to everyone thus far for answering my original question, which was the primary intent of this post, and I'll circle back soon. |
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21 January 2019, 09:01 AM | #41 |
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Not 'over analyzing'. Just double checking inconsistencies.
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21 January 2019, 09:05 AM | #42 |
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Thanks again but spare yourself the time. ;)
I think the facts laid forth will speak for themselves. 1. I dont have my watch. 2. Pp is holding funds. 3. Buyer wants ransom money to then even consider sending my watch back. Given this potential scenario I lose my watch, my PP account is frozen, and if I was dense enough to even send the buyer additional funds on their word to return my watch where does that leave me? 3 strikes? Hmmmmm??? Again, I'll be happy to post pm screenshots later but if you dont respectfully call this a potential scam, then what would you refer to it as? Good business practice, lol? A donation on my part to a would be false businessman, lol??? Seriously this is not a time nor place to debate. If you feel I'm being false please and kindly move onto another thread. Many thanks and again, I think my original question has been answered for now and I'll do the right thing and circle back later to protect other forum members. |
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21 January 2019, 09:28 AM | #44 |
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OP you're making WAY too many assumptions here regarding buyers intentions and motivations. Yes would be good to hear other side now.
Fact is it takes several days for PP to send out those notifications of dispute. It was probably submitted about a week after buyer received the watch not after a month of ownership as is indicated in this thread. |
21 January 2019, 09:31 AM | #45 | |
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You can either choose to believe that I'm asking a legit question,, and in a pickle, or not, in which case trust me...I have many more things I'd rather do over the next couple weeks than continually make time calling paypal. Again, my original question was PayPal procedure related, that's really it. Tks and prefer kind comments only. If you have hate please take it elsewhere. Thank you. |
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21 January 2019, 09:34 AM | #46 | |
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What part did I not make clear. Let me try again. THE BUYER RECEIVED THE WATCH ON JANUARY 2ND. BUYER PMD ME JAN 2ND STATING RECEIPT AND HIGH SATISFACTION WITH THE WATCH AND OUR TRANSACTION. THE BUYER CONTACTED ME ON JANUARY 19TH STATING THERE WAS A ISSUE OUT OF THE BLUE. I ATTEMPTED TO FIX THIS FOR THEM ALL DAY THAT DAY WITHOUT SUCCESS. THEY OPENED A CLAIM THAT NIGHT, JANUARY 19TH. Not sure I can be any clearer. Theres really nothing else of consequence to discuss at this point, that's it. I think it's best I leave the thread alone for some time now since some of you feel the need to press me and this is not productive for anyone. It's simply a raw deal where I've tried to do everything one could, and then some, and its blowing up in my lap. thanks again to those with the kind comments and to the analysts I just hope you dont encounter a similar raw deal either. tks. |
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21 January 2019, 09:43 AM | #48 |
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Hate? What are you talking about?
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21 January 2019, 09:47 AM | #49 | |
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Again, I came on here to ask a PayPal question (see title bar, lol). If you call what happened here logistically fair play, well then I'm speechless and respectfully disagree with your opinion. Also, I dont take kindly to questions regarding my story if you will. To me that's hate and not the intent of this forum. My understanding of the forums intent is to educate one another in a professional, productive and amicable manner, little of which are occurring now. Im a little disappointed given the position I'm in at the moment, and think most rational people would also feel the same, but prefer we all just move on here pls on good forum terms. |
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Nevermind, I don't care.
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Guys...Am I being Scammed on PayPal? Anyone with Dispute Experience Advice???
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You were inconsistent on some points in your story here. Expect scrutiny. But even a cursory reading of this section would have answered all your questions from previous PayPal episodes without posting a thing. Empathize with your predicament but unfortunately it is what it is for now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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I agree with you that an empty box will be on it's way back to you. Paypal and Ebay can't be trusted to do the right thing always. Too many transactions that have issues across the board and managing all of those correctly is not an option. Your best course of action is to stay in communication with Paypal via telephone and also share your concerns about him shipping an empty box back. If he does send it, record the entire thing from receiving it all the way until you open it. Paypal will without a doubt take your side if it is in fact empty but you need to ensure you document the whole thing including the delivery driver handing it to you and even ask him/her if they mind if you open it in front of them while recording. Potential 3rd party witness at that point. The guy you are dealing with is an obvious con artist based on all of the ways he was given to be satisfied or even worse he is just the most dreadful human being on earth. Either way out smart him if you are getting the raw deal here. |
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22 January 2019, 05:32 AM | #59 |
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We are always told to 'Buy the seller'. I would suggest 'buying the buyer' as well. I wouldn't chance buying OR selling from someone that has less than stellar, confirmed and relevant feedback. Best of luck to the OP.
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