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Old 9 January 2009, 02:50 AM   #1
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Rolex GMT Master 16700 Custom Slate Serti Dial

Err buddies...this listing by eBay PowerSeller - zpwatches may have the following
discrepancies...

Although the Seller mentioned clearly that the watch has an AFTERMarket Dial...
or Customed Made Dial...it's in Orchi's opinion that it could mean...as FAKE...or
NOT originally made by Rolex...or Non-Original Rolex...
or Trademark infringement...



Furthermore...Orchi is in opinion that...the Bezel insert...is FAKEEEE...or
Aftermarket...or NOT Originally Rolex made...or Non-Original Rolex...which
the Seller ...fails to disclose accordingly...!



http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-GMT-Master...QQcmdZViewItem

Oh btw...Orchi also thinks...the potential buyer may not realize that...
the watch...could be rejected by any RSC...if it is sent for service...
or repair later on...due to the above discrepancies...of the watch.

So what says...the buddies here...?

Nevertheless...the Seller should be credited n commended for posting some of the sharpest
pictures...in eBay.
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Old 9 January 2009, 10:12 PM   #2
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yes orchi,the bezel insert is most definitely fake...the 2's tell the whole story..
good catch my man!
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Old 10 January 2009, 03:15 AM   #3
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Err buddies...the relevant listing of that...Ref 16700 GMT Master...
with NON-Original Rolex...Dial n Bezel insert...MUST be terminated...

The Seller ought to be cautioned by eBay or reprimanded accordingly...
NOT to list anymore watches that has Aftermarket or FAKEd...
components which would carry the Registered Trademarks of Rolex...
being replicated or FAKED for commercial or personal gains from eBay...
at the huge expense of unwary n unlearned eBay buyers...

Please report ASAP...
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Old 12 January 2009, 01:58 AM   #4
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...bump...

...needs further discussion.
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Old 12 January 2009, 02:18 AM   #5
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Err buddies...on the account of the FAKE bezel insert alone...eBay
should have enough ground to terminate the listing by now.

2ndly...there is NO SUCH thing as...an original Rolex made Ref 16700 having...
a fancy Dial...!

ALL 16700 GMT Master...being a Transitional Model...
made between 1990 to 1999 or so...
was originally made with...
SS Case only...(NO 2T or Gold model)
Cal. 3075 movement...exclusively.
Sapphire Crystal...
QuickSet Date...
24hour GMT Hand NOT independently adjustable...
Glossy Black Dial with...exclusively
WG surround hour markers...either in Tritium "SWISS-T<25")...
or Luminova ("SWISS" marked in 1999) Dial...n hands.
Bezel Insert were originally..."PEPSI" exclusively for most markets...
All Black Bezel Insert...for certain market only.
Early ones fitted with 78360 Bracelet with 501B End Links...
n later ones having 78790A Bracelet with SEL...(Fliplock)
or optional to have 62510H with 502B End Links...

An Original Rolex made...16700 GMT Master would have to be in those ways...
ONLY.
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Old 12 January 2009, 03:13 AM   #6
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Err buddies...on the account of the FAKE bezel insert alone...eBay
should have enough ground to terminate the listing by now.

2ndly...there is NO SUCH thing as...an original Rolex made Ref 16700 having...
a fancy Dial...!

ALL 16700 GMT Master...being a Transitional Model...
made between 1990 to 1999 or so...
was originally made with...
SS Case only...(NO 2T or Gold model)
Cal. 3075 movement...exclusively.
Sapphire Crystal...
QuickSet Date...
24hour GMT Hand NOT independently adjustable...
Glossy Black Dial with...exclusively
WG surround hour markers...either in Tritium "SWISS-T<25")...
or Luminova ("SWISS" marked in 1999) Dial...n hands.
Bezel Insert were originally..."PEPSI" exclusively for most markets...
All Black Bezel Insert...for certain market only.
Early ones fitted with 78360 Bracelet with 501B End Links...
n later ones having 78790A Bracelet with SEL...(Fliplock)
or optional to have 62510H with 502B End Links...

An Original Rolex made...16700 GMT Master would have to be in those ways...
ONLY.
Orchi is correct. This dial was made in somebody's garage and not by Rolex for a GMT.
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Old 13 January 2009, 03:40 PM   #7
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Err buddies...it seems like Lady Casper may be competing in a...
different weight category...

Lady Casper may have to put on the extra pounds...to fight in the
higher super-heavy weight division...asap.
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Old 15 January 2009, 12:23 AM   #8
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Err buddies...Lady Casper may have overlooked this one...

Lady Casper...where art thou...?
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Old 15 January 2009, 10:02 AM   #9
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I do wonder what Lady Casper would say about these. Rolex will probably not agree to service them due to the replacement parts.

Interesting.

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Old 19 January 2009, 04:28 PM   #10
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Err buddies...the listing is still valid...

Orchi would not believe that eBay could allow the PowerSeller - zpwatches ...
to list that watch(16700 GMT Master)...with a FAKE bezel insert ...
n FAKE Dial...knowingly!

ALL Rolex watches being listed for auctions in eBay...
or for sale by ANY Sellers...which are
fitted with so called..."Custom Made or Aftermarket Dials" having the "Rolex coronet n
trademarks...etc" plotted on the Dials...BUT NOT originated from Rolex factory...
should be referred to as FAKEEEEEE...
in the actual sense...
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Old 19 January 2009, 04:51 PM   #11
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Err buddies...the listing is still valid...

Orchi would not believe that eBay could allow the PowerSeller - zpwatches ...
to list that watch(16700 GMT Master)...with a FAKE bezel insert ...
n FAKE Dial...knowingly!

ALL Rolex watches being listed for auctions or for sale in eBay by ANY Sellers...which are
fitted with so called..."Custom Made or Aftermarket Dials" having the "Rolex coronet n
trademarks...etc" plotted on the Dials...BUT NOT originated from Rolex factory...
should be referred to as FAKEEEEEE...
in the actual sense...
Why do you talk about your self in the third person?
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