![]() |
ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
![]() |
#91 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Real Name: Brian
Location: CA dreamin'
Watch: ing the market.
Posts: 5,900
|
What a disaster. The GM is a full on dunce.
In my industry people move on, promotions to leadership elsewhere, selling out for the loot, cutting back to a easy paycheck, etc. If word got out you wanted to leave, no big problem. In my wife’s niche field there is a lot of company flipping in the industry, but there are only a handful of players, and really only 3 in her specific field. They are a nasty bunch and if they knew you wanted to leave for a direct competitor you’d almost certainly be fired. These swap are always on the way down low. Usually the 2-4 weeks notice is met with, “Thanks, but you can leave effective immediately.” That has caused a number of problems over the years, though I’m sure it’s not that uncommon when moving to the competition. I wouldn’t resign, though not for the unemployment as it pays so little I’m not sure it really matters. Make them fire you if that’s what they want. If you want to try to mend the relationship, approach things with the current COO as an opportunity for advancement and see if they want to work to keep you. That’s an approach that has worked in my field. Many have used an offer to flex for a better deal at the current gig. Good luck. If you go to the new job make sure you sleep with that GMs wife at the Christmas party or something to thank him for all your headaches. ![]() ![]() PS I wouldn’t share that the current job asked you to resign. I think that weakens your position.
__________________
-Brian AUDENTES FORTUNA IUVAT 十人十色 |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#92 |
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Real Name: nicholas
Location: ottawa canada
Watch: Rolex,AP,Panerai
Posts: 9,589
|
Wow, what a $hit show. This better get resolved by the new guys real soon. Good luck and keep us posted Nick
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#93 | |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: May 2011
Real Name: Duey
Location: Maui
Watch: Too Many To List
Posts: 3,582
|
Quote:
In a lot of industries you sign non-disclosure agreements , non-compete clauses that last years . Loyalty is King. Not to mention the time and money your current employer has invested in you over the last year. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#94 | |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Denver
Posts: 4,161
|
Quote:
__________________
Jason 116610 LN DateJust Pelagos FXD |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#95 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 4,348
|
This is true, only ones that really hold any weight much any longer are non- solicitations. Non-competes are often way too vague to be enforced, we have tried and without much success. And even to "win", you need to show actual damages, which is difficult. Not to mention the cost to actually enforce one, its often just not worth it unless the person is costing you A LOT of money which you can show.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#96 |
2024 Pledge Member
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: USA
Watch: addiction issues
Posts: 36,980
|
I would find a different company and avoid both of these ones if at all possible.
__________________
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#97 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,054
|
Your new job offer should be forthcoming immediately after a stunt like that.
In the interim. Secure correspondence with new would be employee expressing your concern over their irresponsible practice. And supporting dialogue from current /former employer One way or the other you should get paid.
__________________
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#98 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: FL
Watch: platinum sub
Posts: 15,884
|
they just back load compensation awards to keep you locked in. just ask amazon, google or goldman sachs how that works.
__________________
If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#99 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Feb 2013
Real Name: Flavio
Location: N/A
Posts: 14,654
|
Painful reading. What a mess. I hope you work this out quickly, Nick. Good luck.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#100 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: FL
Watch: platinum sub
Posts: 15,884
|
Quote:
the perspective changes from big companies to small businesses. one thing you should always remember as an employee or a business owner, everyone and everything other than thyself is temporary and replaceable. just ask larry ellison, bill gates or steve wynn. in some instances it takes truly horrible situations to figure that out. loyalty should be expected and rewarded. but often it doesnt work that way. sometimes isnt given by the employee and often it isnt rewarded by the employer. i've seen many go unrewarded for years yet stick around and vice versa. i myself am an extremely loyal person and i pride myself on that. but i dont expect the same loyalty out of everyone, contrary i expect the opposite and am sometimes happily surprised.
__________________
If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#101 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: uk
Posts: 1,214
|
is it not easier in future to tell your current boss that you are looking to change company? if you had done that then none of this would have happened?
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#102 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 1,578
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#103 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: USA
Watch: Rolex & Patek
Posts: 1,436
|
This is industry dependant. There are some places that won't even let you clean out your own office when you resign. If you gave them a heads-up you're looking, that would be your last day.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#104 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Real Name: gus
Location: East Coast
Watch: APK & sometimes Y
Posts: 26,054
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#105 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Real Name: Wes
Location: Holosuite
Posts: 6,345
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#106 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: uk
Posts: 1,214
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#107 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Real Name: Manny
Location: MA
Watch: DD,Sub,GMT,Daytona
Posts: 4,458
|
Quote:
there is nothing wrong with exploring a job with another company in this day and age discretion is a must and it was in very poor form of the new company to contact the current employer like that. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#108 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
Watch: Shiny One
Posts: 5,375
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#109 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: uk
Posts: 1,214
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#110 |
Banned
Join Date: Jul 2008
Real Name: Paul
Location: San Diego
Watch: 126619LB
Posts: 21,540
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#111 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Real Name: John
Location: Rochester/Naples
Watch: Pepsi
Posts: 18,251
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#112 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
Watch: Shiny One
Posts: 5,375
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#113 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Real Name: Robert
Location: Lone Star State
Watch: AP RO 15400, FOIS
Posts: 2,342
|
No. Most states in the US are “at will” employment so you can be fired at any time and you can quit at any time. Telling the current boss you’re looking is a quick way to be fired for most people.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#114 |
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: down by the river
Posts: 4,926
|
hindsight is 20/20. there was a very low chance the place he was interviewing with would spill the beans to his current job. he chose a 1% chance of disaster vs. a 99% chance, I don't understand why people are coming into this thread with a bone to pick with OP. he posted to get some supportive advice about what to do moving forward, not to have his past actions picked apart by strangers
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#115 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: FL
Watch: platinum sub
Posts: 15,884
|
that is true but the reality is litigation can still ensue and when there is risk there is always leverage. you simply cannot operate yourself in a manner that is "the law will save me." the judicial system is not always rewarding....
__________________
If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#116 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Real Name: Robert
Location: Lone Star State
Watch: AP RO 15400, FOIS
Posts: 2,342
|
Yep, which is why the OP’s boss only asked for resignation and not termination. OP has leverage in the fact that he or she did nothing wrong. Company can still terminate the OP’s employment but that would require a severance package and a promise from the OP of not suing.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#117 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Oct 2018
Real Name: Matthew
Location: Tulsa, OK, USA
Posts: 1,922
|
If there's one thing I've learned about this particular forum in my short time here it's that even the seemingly most mundane posts will turn into exactly what you just described. We have a number of Professional Contrarians that post here. Blowing off steam, I guess.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#118 | |
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: down by the river
Posts: 4,926
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#119 |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: FL
Watch: platinum sub
Posts: 15,884
|
Asking for advice on the internet is subjecting yourself to this. It isnt called for but it happens.
__________________
If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4. |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#120 | |
"TRF" Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
Watch: Shiny One
Posts: 5,375
|
Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|
*Banners
Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.