Watch Stand

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

I know, I was just adding extra information. I think a lot of people don't know why prices are what they are.

People want quality and prefer a US/European made product but not at that price point. So the company then decides to produce it in Asian countries and the US/Euro made tag disappears and consumers think it's cheap.

I think most people know cheap junk comes from China. There are also plenty of Western dealers buying those Chinese copies for $20 on Aliexpress or wherever and selling them on eBay for $50 or $75, and passing them off as made in Europe or USA or wherever.

[soran]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

I think most people know cheap junk comes from China. There are also plenty of Western dealers buying those Chinese copies for $20 on Aliexpress or wherever and selling them on eBay for $50 or $75, and passing them off as made in Europe or USA or wherever.

The European and US dealers who re-sells them are almost worse than the companies in China who sells the copies...

Luckily the US and Europe companies we can often shut down.

[Watchflair]

Just picked up one of these from Amazon -

Kloware Handcrafted Leather & Marble Watch Display Stand, Sturdy and Stable Marble Base, PU Leather Holder, Noble Luxury and Eye Catching https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GLZYWSF...A5VQ8MQSHK7E8C

$23.99 plus 10% off and free shipping.

Editing this as I scrolled up to read more of the thread - not trying to take anything away from the person that invented this design. Personally I didn’t do much research just went to google and googled - watch stand - others came up along with this particular one from Amazon.

I see the stand point and spot you are in -


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[Watchflair]

Also, here are my MB&F watch stands with Brew watches.


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[asloper6001]

MB&F Robots are awesome. I guess some people will still want an Applebee's meal though.

[HHIslander]

Originally Posted by soran

One thing to consider when you buy the pirate copy of our stand is that you are supporting counterfeit products. We have a design patent, but unfortunately new sellers pop up on Alibaba all the time.

What do you specifically have a patent on? I've seen stands like this for the past 40 years.

[soran]

Originally Posted by HHIslander

What do you specifically have a patent on? I've seen stands like this for the past 40 years.

You have not seen our particurlar shape before. It's like a design chair. You have seen chairs before but if someone makes a specific design it can be patented.

Here is an example of our WIPO design patent for our duo stand in Japan.

https://www.wipo.int/idpub/07_2021/2..._STATEMENT.pdf

[duquephart]

Originally Posted by karleone

I have been using stands from thewatchstand.com for a year now and I absolutely love them. It’s a very elegant and safe way to store your watch when you go for sleep. I recommend!

Why not buy product of equal quality for one third the cost? This Soran guy may well be obtaining from the same sources and taking breathtaking mark-ups.

[duquephart]

Originally Posted by soran

You have not seen our particurlar shape before. It's like a design chair. You have seen chairs before but if someone makes a specific design it can be patented.

Here is an example of our WIPO design patent for our duo stand in Japan.

https://www.wipo.int/idpub/07_2021/2..._STATEMENT.pdf

Patent, schmatent! You're busted pal ----- charging $250 for a $50 product just isn't going to fly around here. The suckers are elsewhere.

[soran]

Originally Posted by duquephart

Why not buy product of equal quality for one third the cost? This Soran guy may well be obtaining from the same sources and taking breathtaking mark-ups.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just stating the facts so people can make well informed decisions when they buy.

By the way, no, our products are not made in China.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B8vkn7xlb0M/

[soran]

Originally Posted by duquephart

Patent, schmatent! You're busted pal ----- charging $250 for a $50 product just isn't going to fly around here. The suckers are elsewhere.

What do you mean with busted?

[duquephart]

Exposed.

[soran]

Originally Posted by duquephart

Exposed.

What is exposed? Have you found something that we were hiding? Please explain.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by soran

What is exposed? Have you found something that we were hiding? Please explain.

You’re being trolled

[duquephart]

Originally Posted by soran

What is exposed? Have you found something that we were hiding? Please explain.

The point I (and others) are suggesting is that your stand can easily be viewed as overpriced in that there are others of equal, or very nearly equal quality that are quite a bit more reasonably priced.

[AvGeek]

Well I for one enjoy my "overpriced" watch stand and am happy to be supporting a small business, and one that actively participates in our forum. Keep doing what you're doing.

[ISKOTB]

For such an expensive watch, I am looking for a stand to protect it from any surface scratches. I also have kids.

Originally Posted by padi56

Cannot understand the need for a stand,most Rolex are made from SS one of the toughest things on this planet. Just lay it down if you want to protect your furniture, just lay watch down on any clean bit of cloth.

[soran]

Originally Posted by AvGeek

Well I for one enjoy my "overpriced" watch stand and am happy to be supporting a small business, and one that actively participates in our forum. Keep doing what you're doing.

Many thanks. I appreciate it!

[RolexguyinSF]

I put this one together recently. Made of Walnut, from smaller scraps I had in my home woodshop. I added an ultra suede pad, and I really like it how it turned out, considering wood was free, and not too much labor to make one. Cheers.

[duquephart]

Classy!

[Mbbgysam]

Originally Posted by Wahlberg

There are some things wrong in the current market.

Vendors in certain countries are able to copy a product without legal repercussions, lower the prices by a lot, undercut competition and the biggest issue, offer free shipping. I've read an article that it's easier to buy a coffee mug from China than buy one locally here, because some sort of deal/treaty/... whatever that makes this free shipping possible. That's wrong.

So a shop based in Europe, with R&D, marketing, taxes, employees, website, ... the usual overhead that means you can't sell these for 20 USD/EURO. You simply can't. You're likely already looking at 100 euro minimum to keep everything going.

You're spot on. I have a small leather goods business and people quickly forget that cost of goods is a fraction of total cost, especially for small businesses. It costs time and money to ideate / concept, research suppliers and order samples, make a gazillion prototypes until it's perfect, file patent and other legal paperwork, develop and source premium packaging, build a website with professional photography, market to potential customers (I found The Watch Stand via an Instagram targeted ad by the way), scale manufacturing in EU and build up inventory, etc. The seller on Alibaba is skipping most all these steps... and that's not even considering import/export headwinds. It's no wonder they can sell for so much less.

Originally Posted by duquephart

The point I (and others) are suggesting is that your stand can easily be viewed as overpriced in that there are others of equal, or very nearly equal quality that are quite a bit more reasonably priced.

You can make this argument for pretty much any luxury brand. Take an alligator Hermes wallet for example: I can order a grade 1 alligator skin from American Tanning (their alligator supplier), a goatskin from Alran (their French goatskin lining supplier), some thread from Fil Au Chinois (their thread supplier) and saddle stitch a counterfeit one using the exact same materials at very nearly equal quality, all for ~15-20% of what Hermes would charge. Does this mean Hermes is "busted" and only "suckers" would shop there rather than buy my product for less?

Originally Posted by AvGeek

Well I for one enjoy my "overpriced" watch stand and am happy to be supporting a small business, and one that actively participates in our forum. Keep doing what you're doing.

+1. I love my stand from The Watch Stand and am happy to support them.

[Mbbgysam]

Adding a photo of my 2 watch stand!

[THC]

[Watchflair]

Just received this today - pretty nice





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[anteto]

Look up “Cable Guy controller holder” you’ll find what you are looking for