To those that believe in the 32xx problems, what is your plan/strategy?

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

That's actually the key to avoiding the issue. Have so many 32XX watches that they don't get worn enough to exhibit problems.

I may have been approaching this incorrectly. Instead of avoiding 32xx watches, I should be buying more.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

I may have been approaching this incorrectly. Instead of avoiding 32xx watches, I should be buying more.

I suppose that suitably covers one aspect of a strategy

[the dark knight]

This thread is depressing me and making me hopeful at the same time. Over a million 32xx watches out there, small portion of those with owners who have actually noticed the problem, smaller portion of those that are aware its widespread, and even amongst those there are quite a few that don't care. I mean I guess I'm part of that problem too in a way. But we have people here saying they don't care about the accuracy of the watch since its jewelry anyway, which may well be the dominant view of Rolex owners these days.

Considering all this, I doubt Rolex feels any pressure to remedy the movement, I have a bad feeling 32xx owners are going to be left twisting in the wind after Rolex works out the kinks and moves on to a 33xx movement.

OTOH, I'm feeling pretty good because I'm in the same boat as a lot of people and it seems like if/when the watches go bad there won't be shortage of people wanting to buy them because they are still Rolexes.

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by Dirt

I suppose that suitably covers one aspect of a strategy

I wouldn't be completely dishonest in saying one reason I have 2 of them is because I want to be able to wear one while the other goes off for service. And yea, I guess I am part of the problem.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

I believe that some people are having problems with their 32XX movements. I also believe based on what I’ve read in the other thread before it ground me down and I just gave up on reading it that the problems are with the earlier watches with this family of movements. I have owned two, a DJ that was the most accurate watch that I have ever owned and an Exp 1 that continues to be remarkably consistent. I don’t worry about it and in fact my next Rolex, a black Exp II, will also have a 32XX movement. If one of them develops a problem I’ll get it fixed. If either one disappoints or bores me I’ll trade it in on something else just as I would with any other watch. Not worried at all.

[doboy007]

Originally Posted by JoseR

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=786299

Have fun... Hope you have lots of time on your hands because it'll be Easter by the time you get the last post.

Haha, thanks!

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

I believe that some people are having problems with their 32XX movements. I also believe based on what I’ve read in the other thread before it ground me down and I just gave up on reading it that the problems are with the earlier watches with this family of movements. I have owned two, a DJ that was the most accurate watch that I have ever owned and an Exp 1 that continues to be remarkably consistent. I don’t worry about it and in fact my next Rolex, a black Exp II, will also have a 32XX movement. If one of them develops a problem I’ll get it fixed. If either one disappoints or bores me I’ll trade it in on something else just as I would with any other watch. Not worried at all.

Newer movements are still affected. According to Bas, the movement issues haven’t been solved, and it’s essentially just a matter of time for all of them.

The issue probably revolves around how often the watch is worn. Some watches be daily worn and have issues within a couple of years, while others may be worn sparingly enough in rotation that, when they do fail, it will seem like a normal service interval.

[Old Expat Beast]

My strategy is I'm sticking with my five-digit Rolex and Tudor ETA collection. Over a decade of service-free wear and all still keeping chronometer time with strong amplitude.

[Calatrava r]

I have never had a problem with the new movements. Whatever may be happening, it is not hurting Rolex sales at all.

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Newer movements are still affected. According to Bas, the movement issues haven’t been solved, and it’s essentially just a matter of time for all of them.

The issue probably revolves around how often the watch is worn. Some watches be daily worn and have issues within a couple of years, while others may be worn sparingly enough in rotation that, when they do fail, it will seem like a normal service interval.

I guess another reason to just have a bunch of 32xxs.

[Nads786]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

Newer movements are still affected. According to Bas, the movement issues haven’t been solved, and it’s essentially just a matter of time for all of them.

The issue probably revolves around how often the watch is worn. Some watches be daily worn and have issues within a couple of years, while others may be worn sparingly enough in rotation that, when they do fail, it will seem like a normal service interval.

And Rolex which aims to be seen as a reliable watch company has done nothing to solve the problem? Even years after the issue has developed? It just doesn’t seem plausible and highly conspiratorial.

[RDT-G23]

I've got my 126610LN on my wrist as I type this. It is an early version, deilivery taken 9/20. It keeps flawless time. My strategy is to "watch the show"...

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Nads786

And Rolex which aims to be seen as a reliable watch company has done nothing to solve the problem? Even years after the issue has developed? It just doesn’t seem plausible and highly conspiratorial.

Yep, they’re still frequently failing with little noticeable change to the movements over time. A guess is that it could be endemic to the new Chronergy escapement design, and that’s why there’s no easy fix, but I have no idea.

We saw something similar with Omega’s first 2500 Co-Axial movement series from 1999-2006. Omega tried a few fixes with the first three variants, and the fourth and final 2500D series was pretty good, but they eventually had to completely redesign a movement from the ground up with the 8xxx Co-Axial movements, and those have been great.

[ducatiti]

I just received my DJ41 back from warranty service because it was running -8 secs per day.

I just sent an email to the service manager asking the following since the service advisor dude didn't know anything:

What was done to the watch, lubricated, regulated, etc?

I mentioned that this is a known issue amongst the Rolex community. Is there now a permanent fix?

Also, I asked for a leather travel pouch instead of the suede version provided :)

I'll keep everyone posted.

Edit: I also asked that since my warranty is ending next year, how would this be treated considering it's a known issue and if the problem arises after the warranty period?

[burnthesehills]

I am avoiding the movement until Rolex remedies the situation. Of course, they won’t say anything so it will likely be from feedback on this forum. I have moved on to other brands.

[Chewbacca]

Swapping mine for a ETA2624

[CHRONOLEX]

What choice do we have? I don’t like the prospect of issues but has not stopped me.

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by minute_man

I don't care and I have two of those. I've also owned a Tudor GMT and been driving Land Rovers.

Well, I can see taking a chance on the Tudor.....
But a Land Rover. Wow, you are really living on the edge. Don't think I could do that.

[JRell]

Oh no I have a sub41! I plan to start a gofundme page, details to come…

[Partners]

Originally Posted by JRell

Oh no I have a sub41! I plan to start a gofundme page, details to come…

I don’t understand why some people don’t care. A watch’s movement is like its heart. That would be saying all we care about are someone’s looks and not internal personality……oh wait…

[Tridor]

Even Bas, a Rolex-trained watchmaker, says that he wouldn't buy a 32xx. Bottom line ... the 32xx is a dog of a movement and it's not a question of IF one will fail, it's a question of WHEN. It's been 8 years since introduction, and still no permanent fix. Folks have sent in their watches for warranty work multiple times for the same issue, and have had to endure inconvenience and frustration. What happens when the 5 year warranty expires and watches continue to fail? Will Rolex fix them for free, or will folks be banged for a service each time? That could get expensive. As for me, I'll stick to the 31xx or even a 30xx, and avoid this debacle altogether. Rolex really should be ashamed of itself at this point.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by Tridor

Even Bas, a Rolex-trained watchmaker, says that he wouldn't buy a 32xx. Bottom line ... the 32xx is a dog of a movement and it's not a question of IF one will fail, it's a question of WHEN. It's been 8 years since introduction, and still no permanent fix. Folks have sent in their watches for warranty work multiple times for the same issue, and have had to endure inconvenience and frustration. What happens when the 5 year warranty expires and watches continue to fail? Will Rolex fix them for free, or will folks be banged for a service each time? That could get expensive. As for me, I'll stick to the 31xx or even a 30xx, and avoid this debacle altogether. Rolex really should be ashamed of itself at this point.

Or be like the millions like me and never have a problem.

[Tridor]

Originally Posted by JRell

Or be like the millions like me and never have a problem.

YET! Just wait and see ... you'll be sending in yours sooner or later.

[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by JRell

Or be like the millions like me and never have a problem.

How long have you had it, and do you wear it every day? Hopefully it doesn’t happen soon.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by douglasf13

How long have you had it, and do you wear it every day? Hopefully it doesn’t happen soon.

Had my BLNR for like a year and a half. It is a Rolex people need to relax!

[JRell]

Originally Posted by Tridor

YET! Just wait and see ... you'll be sending in yours sooner or later.

I mean if it happens it happens, but with the millions of sales and the few problems you hear about only here, I will sleep well with my 70 hour power reserve and cutting edge movement!

[Nads786]

Originally Posted by JRell

I mean if it happens it happens, but with the millions of sales and the few problems you hear about only here, I will sleep well with my 70 hour power reserve and cutting edge movement!

Yeah this definitely seems like fear mongering. I’m sure there are issues but this absolute fact of not if but when it will break seems far fetched. It is the internet so what do we expect?

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Millions of watches and thousands of problems. It’s not like Rolex is making pacemakers or dialysis machines.

[Ollie1982]

Originally Posted by JRell

Had many, zero problems. If I did I guess I would write my congressman? Everything man made has issues from time to time. The more popular the brand the more you know about it.

Have you kept any of them long enough for the issue to manifest? I’ve had 2 32** series movements and both developed the issue, after around 18-24 months of ownership.


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[douglasf13]

Originally Posted by Nads786

Yeah this definitely seems like fear mongering. I’m sure there are issues but this absolute fact of not if but when it will break seems far fetched. It is the internet so what do we expect?

When you have our trusted RSC watchmaker in these forums saying it’s a matter of when, not if, it’s quite an indictment. 32xx owners just have to hope their “when” is 10 years and not 3 years. Rotating multiple watches is one approach.