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Old 19 April 2018, 01:24 AM   #61
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an asset is anything of value.
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Old 19 April 2018, 01:25 AM   #62
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an asset is anything of value.
as long as you are not counting grey dealer selling prices. You won't get anywhere near that if you sell and you are inflating the value considerably.
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Old 19 April 2018, 01:27 AM   #63
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They're absolutely part of my assets and subsequently add to the net worth in my case. I even update their market value in the secondary market on a monthly basis. If they have a market value, why shouldn't they count as assets in your balance sheet?
I agree 100% ith you and tyler.
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Old 19 April 2018, 01:30 AM   #64
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Maybe lower of:



Cost or,

Net Realisable Value





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Old 19 April 2018, 01:31 AM   #65
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And i apologise for the chaotic conversation. But i am not called crazymcmichael for nothing ;)
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Old 19 April 2018, 01:34 AM   #66
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as long as you are not counting grey dealer selling prices. You won't get anywhere near that if you sell and you are inflating the value considerably.
there is a difference to me between financial asset and asset in general.
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Old 19 April 2018, 01:37 AM   #67
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there is a difference to me between financial asset and asset in general.
In my country, we have to pay taxes over your savings and we get only 0,05 interest in the saving account atm.. So it only cost money to ''save'' atm.. Serious

I also consider a ''net-worth''
as everything from value that a person own.. So a expensive painting on the wall, a oldtimer that keeps value well.. a house...
I don't consider anything as a net worth that is on debt offcourse
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Old 19 April 2018, 01:42 AM   #68
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i still think the residual value is an asset and part of your net wort. How much of your assets that should be in watches is of course subjective. The value should be realistic and not retail of course in 99% of cases.

If you get sued have a judgment against you for instance you can bet your life the court will count that as an asset just like cars, boats, private jets, whatever. No more a paper weight than gold bars IMO and that is most certainly an asset. Not a gold bug myself though.
OK, I suppose everything is based on perspective. And yes, sure, if someone has a judgement against me, they are going after my personal items.

However, if I am doing my retirement planning, I am not counting my cars, watches or even my house as part of my net worth. Even if they are all paid off.

If I am sitting around and trying to make myself feel good, which I do from time to time, and I count up all my assets to try and determine my net worth, I would include those items. But I think that is an absolute recipe for disaster and makes someone think they are "worth" a lot more than they truly are. That leads to overspending and potential problems. Just my opinion on that last part.

I personally think the OP had an opinion that he wanted validated. When it did not go his way, things went south...fast. I admit, I have been guilty of that myself. I do my best to avoid putting myself in that situation at this point.

Anyway, again, I suppose it is all based on perspective. I tend to be super duper conservative. To each their own. No judgment from me. I just like my way.
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Old 19 April 2018, 01:46 AM   #69
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I guess so. I always have a rough estimate in my head though I don't need a calculator.
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Old 19 April 2018, 01:58 AM   #70
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I must admit I don’t sit and work out my worth ever.
I love watches and feel that if I came into serious financial difficulty I could sell them and pull the money in, even if less than market value.
I would never put my house, business or family in jeopardy for watches.
Reading this thread from start to finish was hilarious. I’m off to buy a load tinned food and water now and put it in the safe!


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Old 19 April 2018, 02:41 AM   #71
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If it makes him happy... why not. I know a lot of people who lost money in stocks/bonds investments so please don't knock this dude down.
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Old 19 April 2018, 02:57 AM   #72
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My watches can be categorized as an "asset", though it would be difficult (and tiring) to try to keep track of...so I don't. I consider them frivolous objects of desire.
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Old 19 April 2018, 02:58 AM   #73
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Yes, they have significant value therefore yes. Do I calculate my net worth, no.

I wonder what answer you'd get from the owner of the PNPN?
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Old 19 April 2018, 04:37 AM   #74
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I'm sorry, not my native language.
You don’t need to apologize. He owes you an apology.
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Old 19 April 2018, 04:42 AM   #75
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You don’t need to apologize. He owes you an apology.
Agree completely. Not cool.
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Old 19 April 2018, 04:57 AM   #76
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Try telling the people on here with collections in excess of hundreds of thousands, millions that watches aren't an asset. It's just a watch man. Who cares about value - We're WISes!
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Old 19 April 2018, 04:57 AM   #77
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Old 19 April 2018, 05:02 AM   #78
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All i know is..... if u know how much money you have, you don’t have enough. LOL.
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Old 19 April 2018, 05:03 AM   #79
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All i know is..... if u know how much money you have, you don’t have enough. LOL.
uhhhh...what

if you don't know how much money you have, you're not managing your finances properly.
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Old 19 April 2018, 05:09 AM   #80
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Never an investment expected to increase like my real estate holdings. But would consider them an asset at a below retail value just like our art collection and other items typically considered part of net worth.
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Old 19 April 2018, 05:09 AM   #81
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I know, but that is not exactly what i mean.
Offcourse the first part of buying a watch is that you need to enjoy it, secondly i won't gamble on watches that they appriciate in value... I think thats not a good thing to do, and also a stupid way to buy a wristwatch in the first place.
But do you consider your luxury watches as a ''wealth'' preservator?
So that instead of having your money(which would gain in savings)
you have a few or a lot of beautifull timepieces that you enjoy while they still keep pretty good resale-value(so if ever necesarry can sell it off.)
Man, I should try that line on my wife next time I want to buy a new Rolex. But honey, it's a wealth preservator!
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All i know is..... if u know how much money you have, you don’t have enough. LOL.
Okay, Scrooge McDuck.
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Old 19 April 2018, 05:16 AM   #83
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Let's not confuse an asset with an investment. A watch is an asset and should be included as part of your net worth, just like the value of your cars, properties, etc. Now whether you think a watch is an appreciating asset could determine if it's an investment, but that's a topic that's been thoroughly covered on this forum.
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Old 19 April 2018, 05:20 AM   #84
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Okay, Scrooge McDuck.
Now I know who Scrooge McDuck is! LOL
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Old 19 April 2018, 05:29 AM   #85
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Oh man, I have been gone nearly five years from the forum...

Not sure if I should say IBTL. I might pose, do you insure your watch(es)?

Nice to see familiar handles still active on TRF; looking forward to playing catch-up
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uhhhh...what

if you don't know how much money you have, you're not managing your finances properly.
What he said was some famous money quote applied to rich people, and I think it is true :-)
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Old 19 April 2018, 06:30 AM   #87
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Than you guys :cheers

You must be really rich to not calculate your money, or really old.. LOL
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Oh man, I have been gone nearly five years from the forum...

Not sure if I should say IBTL. I might pose, do you insure your watch(es)?

Nice to see familiar handles still active on TRF; looking forward to playing catch-up
Don't tell me the hype has dragged you back too.
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Old 19 April 2018, 06:37 AM   #89
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Man, I should try that line on my wife next time I want to buy a new Rolex. But honey, it's a wealth preservator!
Yes why not??
Now this is another thing, sometimes i see that men are like ''forbidden'' to buy a watch from there woman i don't understand that to be honest, i mean your money your hobby right ?
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Old 19 April 2018, 06:50 AM   #90
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Maybe the OP should invest in an English tutor rather than watches. That was painful to read.
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