Watches & Diamonds Ltd (UK)

[justdate]

Has anyone used http://watches-and-diamonds.com/

Some very cheap prices... would like some confirmation that it's legit!

Specifically a brand new 116718 for £12k .... http://watches-and-diamonds.com/role...-bracelet.html

[cajunron]

Seems highly suspicious to me. Looks like a classic scam site to me, IMO. Maybe one of our known and respected members can validate this site. Why anyone would buy anywhere but here is beyond me.

[justdate]

Little investigation, looks to be totally fake. Well I don't trust it that's for sure.

Saw on another site they told a guy they couldn't accept his card as he was us based and they only accept uk credit cards. They told me they can only accept usa cards so can't take my uk card. I offered to go there and pay in cash he said no way, it's too risky for them and only staff are allowed in the building for their safety!!

So basically I have to pay bank transfer and cannot view the watch in person first! I asked for a call to discuss and be did not reply. Just hope no one falls a victim to it as it seems they made fake yahoo feedback. Yahoo question with a number of answers all from people with only 1 post! All within 24hrs.

Very bad.

[crowncollection]

Pass in it


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[ally]

just goggle earthed the address its a village hall

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[mrbill2mrbill2]

Run Forrest Run!!

[supergoose23]

hi their , these guys are scammers people beware noticed how low the prices were myself thought it was abit odd ,done some googling on the phone number they have on website , that number was involded in a health supplement scam loads of people got ripped off the sooner these guys get busted the better!!!

[Lambo399]

I fell for the trap!!!!!!!!!!! I ordered one today and started searching for scam links after!!!!!! What a twat!!!!! I'm fuming.very good scam site though,it all looks so legit I even spoke to an online operative,will repost when my watch doesn't come on Friday lool.ASSHOLES!!!!!!!!!

[Lambo399]

I fell for it,is the anything I can do? I was shopping in a hurry and didn't check for scam

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by Lambo399

I fell for it,is the anything I can do? I was shopping in a hurry and didn't check for scam

Shopping in a hurry for a multi-THOUSAND dollar watch?

[swomariner]

Originally Posted by rgdejong

Shopping in a hurry for a multi-THOUSAND dollar watch?

Yeah, that quote struck me odd as well.

[Just Me]

Originally Posted by Lambo399

I fell for it,is the anything I can do? I was shopping in a hurry and didn't check for scam

Get in touch with me ASAP, think we need a concerted effort by all UK members of this forum who have been scammed. The banking laws etc are all different dependant on your country of origin.
I will share all info and experiences i have with the uk Police, Action Fraud, Banks, Banking Ombudsman, Solicitors and Court processes, MP's etc that i have dealt with so far. Its a real eye opener !!!!!!!

[bayerische]

Tell us you used a Credit card?

[Lambo399]

Nah it was a bank transfer ( hand over face) !!!!!!

[Tony1]

Originally Posted by Lambo399

Nah it was a bank transfer ( hand over face) !!!!!!

You lost your money and you cannot do anything if you used a wire transfer.
Was a large amount ?
UK is full of scammers, i don`t know why people trust any website/person from the UK.

[Swiss_Time_Watches]

Originally Posted by Tony1

You lost your money and you cannot do anything if you used a wire transfer.
Was a large amount ?
UK is full of scammers, i don`t know why people trust any website/person from the UK.

What rubbish.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by SuperDanX

What rubbish.

x2

[mikkibarry]

Originally Posted by SuperDanX

What rubbish.

Agreed. Some of my nicest watches are from the UK. Very sorry this happened. Local Attorney General's office or consumer protection state agency might be of help.

[Kobin]

Originally Posted by Tony1

You lost your money and you cannot do anything if
UK is full of scammers, i don`t know why people trust any website/person from the UK.

Bollocks.

[Jakey]

Originally Posted by Tony1

i don`t know why people trust any website/person from the UK.

Rather Offensive Comment is it not !

[Tony1]

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[Swearengen]

PP 5146 for £16254
Run!

Originally Posted by justdate

Has anyone used http://watches-and-diamonds.com/

Some very cheap prices... would like some confirmation that it's legit!

Specifically a brand new 116718 for £12k .... http://watches-and-diamonds.com/role...-bracelet.html

[justdate]

Originally Posted by Lambo399

I fell for it,is the anything I can do? I was shopping in a hurry and didn't check for scam

That's awful, very sorry to hear it. Bet these guys made a lot of cash, contact police ASAP.... Maybe something can be done. You have bank details at least? Contact all agencies right away.

[Lambo399]

I'm based in the uk,and it was a wire transfer,think the banks can sort anything yet? Il post my live chat wiv "Caroline" next post lol

[Lambo399]

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Operator Carolina has joined the chat.
Carolina15:58:14 GMT
Hello Lewis, thank you for contacting Watches and Diamonds. How may I help you?
Lewis15:58:54 GMT
So what's the crack?are they good fakes yeh?
15:59:23 GMT
When will I get my fake then u rip off pricks
15:59:45 GMT
Check my order and tell what's happening then?
Carolina16:00:05 GMT
Do you want the watch?
16:00:13 GMT
Or do you want your money back sir?
16:00:19 GMT
There is no need to be rude
Lewis16:00:58 GMT
I want the watch
16:01:45 GMT
I will take a year to get my money back won't it! I've been speaking to other people and you sent them a fake didn't you!!!
16:02:05 GMT
What's the serial number of the watch ur sending me?
Carolina16:02:29 GMT
Can you please tell me who told you we are selling fake watches?
Lewis16:02:56 GMT
His names Steve bakewell
16:03:12 GMT
Check ur previous orders
16:03:28 GMT
So how will I get a refund?
Carolina16:03:39 GMT
There is no customer with that name who bought a watch from us
16:03:42 GMT
If you want a refund
16:04:00 GMT
Your money will be refunded until Tuesday noon without any extra charges
Lewis16:04:31 GMT
If I still want the watch when will receive it?
Carolina16:05:03 GMT
Same time sir
16:05:05 GMT
please check
16:05:06 GMT
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...1023758AA5nPQ6
Lewis16:05:58 GMT
Ha ha I joker,they are a
16:06:16 GMT
allall on the same day how random aye!!!!
Carolina16:06:18 GMT
Ok sir
16:06:29 GMT
So please let me know how do you want to proceed
Lewis16:06:49 GMT
Are u sure this isn't ur own people writing this ?
Carolina16:07:14 GMT
Yes I am,. Are you sure that we have cheated someone ?
16:07:23 GMT
Because some guy told you?
Lewis16:08:15 GMT
Can you please tell me when I will receive my fake then? And why don't you give me a call on my mobile to confirm its not a scam?
16:08:43 GMT
Why are all the operators called Caroline lol
Carolina16:09:36 GMT
I have one request for you Please do not make any accusation until you are sure. You will receive the watch(original not fake)or your money back
16:10:33 GMT
You think it is not simple for us to ban your ip so you can't get to the live help anymore? But we don't do this since we do not wish to have unhappy customers
16:14:38 GMT
You have sent us two email with words that I can't describe and for what? We have not steal your money or sent you a fake watch. So please wait and if you will see that we are doing any of these, please feel free to write any comments you want to
16:15:51 GMT
And who is this Steve Bakewell ?
16:16:21 GMT
I have checked the order list and there is no such a customer
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Carolina16:21:34 GMT
Hello Lewis, thank you for contacting Watches and Diamonds. How may I help you?
Lewis16:22:04 GMT
Hello Caroline,is there anyone else I can speak to please?
Carolina16:23:21 GMT
Yes of course. Please provide me your number and I will forward your request to my superior and he will call you
Lewis16:24:26 GMT
When will he call me?
16:24:42 GMT
This is gonna be good lol
Carolina16:25:15 GMT
He is out now but he will definitely call you tomorrow
16:25:27 GMT
But please do not talk to him like you wrote those emails
Lewis16:25:35 GMT
Lol where is he at the pub?
Carolina16:25:47 GMT
Why are you making jokes?
Lewis16:25:56 GMT
Are you all maylasian?
16:26:32 GMT
It's a maylasian founded company isn't it?
Carolina16:26:57 GMT
Ok sir...I see that there is no poin to talk to you. Your order will be canceled and we will send you back your money.
Lewis16:28:33 GMT
Can you please tell me when my watch will arrive? As I've been told this Friday,Saturday morning and then I was told Tuesday,can you pick which one of these days it will be :)
Carolina16:29:13 GMT
I have told you that your order will be canceled and your money refunded
Lewis16:29:29 GMT
Nah il Have the watch instead please
16:30:09 GMT
Sorry for the Inconvineince I'm just annoyed at what I have read
16:30:31 GMT
As you should surely understand if you where in my shoes
Carolina16:30:51 GMT
Ok sir, we will do our best to deliver the watch by Saturday,but normally the shipping takes 5-7 business days
16:31:03 GMT
I do understand your concerns but there is no point to be rude
16:31:20 GMT
I am here to help
Lewis16:31:37 GMT
Ok,I'm sorry I will no longer be rude
Carolina16:31:48 GMT
Then we can understand each other.
Lewis16:32:23 GMT
Some people on the yahoo link you sent me say they waited a day and others 3 weeks,what's this about?
Carolina16:33:09 GMT
It is trues that sometimes the shipping is delayed but it is from our suppliers
16:33:29 GMT
I assume you didn't think that we have over 2 000 watches on real stock
Lewis16:33:53 GMT
Do you have any more links so I can be reasurred?
Carolina16:34:01 GMT
As soon you have placed you order and we have received the payment, we order the watch and we usually receive it within 2-3 days and then send it to the buyer
16:35:10 GMT
I have that link from a customer who told me he answered to that question. But you don't have to follow any good or bad comment.
16:35:45 GMT
You just have to follow your instinct and I don't know why you had the impression that we are going to send you a fake watch or to steal your money
16:36:08 GMT
Anyway I will do my best to have you the watch delivered by Saturday as promissed
Lewis16:36:52 GMT
How can you do that your only an operator though?
Carolina16:37:25 GMT
I will FLAG your order with PRIORITY
Lewis16:38:47 GMT
Ok thank you xxxx
Carolina16:38:57 GMT
You are welcome
16:39:03 GMT
Have a nice day and keep in touch
16:39:07 GMT
Bye for now
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[dsk28]

Dear friends,

Please check this link to the yahoo question:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...1023758AA5nPQ6

which is answered by accounts made from either 04 December 2012, or 11 February 2013. How could it be that coincidental? It is obvious that these accounts were made for a specific purpose, and that is to answer people's question about watches and diamonds dot com. Please help me in reporting abuse to yahoo answers because Yahoo told me that they would need more than a single report in order to process it.

This is what I sent to Yahoo:

Dear Yahoo,

Please check the people commenting on this question. They are all created either on 04 December 2012 or 11 February 2013. It is clear that these are bogus accounts created by one man who is trying to answer questions about his scam site, watches and diamonds dot com.

I am a member of TRF - The Rolex Forums, which is a forum dedicated to watches and horology. Please check this link which shows our members discussing about the authenticity of watches and diamonds dot com.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=280641

I am doing this because I do not like people getting scammed for purchasing time pieces, and these kind of sites hurts people a lot.

Please do something about it.

Thank you.

[Asdapuff]

Well...did you get the watch??? Update eagerly awaited?

[vsabra]

I just joined this forum this afternoon to say "thank you". Got here via googling 'watches & diamonds limited UK'.
I was 20 minutes from sending a bankwire to these guys for a Vacheron Constantin.
Cancelled the wire but am curious about the OP experience.

[Tony1]

Originally Posted by vsabra

I just joined this forum this afternoon to say "thank you". Got here via googling 'watches & diamonds limited UK'.
I was 20 minutes from sending a bankwire to these guys for a Vacheron Constantin.
Cancelled the wire but am curious about the OP experience.