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Nicko · 5 April 2010, 06:17 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner...item19bb3bc301

pinnaclesells 1859
99.7% Positive feedback

ROGERB · 5 April 2010, 06:42 AM

Why??
R

Nicko · 5 April 2010, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROGERB

Why??
R

Look at it....Dial at least looks like crap...Lugs are huge unless it's a camera trick, that and more. Could be the camera, but I don't think so...I can't copy the images from the auction so I grabbed a screenshot of the dial..YUCK:

Earl Camembert · 5 April 2010, 07:11 AM

The picture.

thesharkfactor · 5 April 2010, 07:13 AM

agreed, that dial is not right.. and the check the plastic gasket under the crystal/above the rehuat!

TheBluePrince · 5 April 2010, 08:53 AM

Guys, i haven't looked at the dial in detail but will do in a bit but otherwise that watch is FINE and GENUINE

Edit - Looked at the dial some more and think it's fine re the text, and spacing etc but the Swiss T<25 and crown look a bit odd. Could be angle or size of pics maybe as they both look stretched vertically.

It certainly isn't a fake sub imo.

TimeToGo · 5 April 2010, 08:57 AM

Watch may be fine, but the DIAL is a nasty redial!

TheBluePrince · 5 April 2010, 09:08 AM

Definitely genuine dial to compare

It's very very close!

TimeToGo · 5 April 2010, 09:24 AM

dial STINKOS!

NASTY REDIAL!

TheBluePrince · 5 April 2010, 09:26 AM

There's no point me asking as he doens't ship out of the USA but one of you folks should contact the seller, express your concerns about the dial. Seller has a return policy and is open to questions so ask him if you bought it and it was confirmed as not an original dial would he offer full refund?

TimeToGo · 5 April 2010, 09:27 AM

It is NOT an original dial. NO need to ask him!

TheBluePrince · 5 April 2010, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

dial STINKOS!

NASTY REDIAL!

I've just gone to my other machine with decent monitor (was on 14" lappy before) and got both pics up next to eachother and in editing software etc. It's a redial but it's not "nasty". It isn't bad imo. Only the SwissT<25 is noitcebly quite off.

TimeToGo · 5 April 2010, 09:29 AM

DUCK season!

Earl Camembert · 5 April 2010, 09:29 AM

Definitely genuine dial to compare

Subject dial.

TheBluePrince · 5 April 2010, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

It is NOT an original dial. NO need to ask him!

Why? It's a good watch otherwise. Great bargaining tool to get a good deal on it. How much would Rolex charge to put it right with a service too? $500-600? Once he knows what he's got he may be open to good offers to get rid of it.

TheBluePrince · 5 April 2010, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

Definitely genuine dial to compare

Subject dial.

See, it really isn't that bad is it?

TimeToGo · 5 April 2010, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBluePrince

Why? It's a good watch otherwise. Great bargaining tool to get a good deal on it. How much would Rolex charge to put it right with a service too? $500-600? Once he knows what he's got he may be open to good offers to get rid of it.

You get no argument from me!

Unfortunately, some "unknown" bidder, that can not tell the difference between a redial or original, will believe all is fine and bidded up to low $3Ks. NO PAPERS. The watch will probably need a service and a new replacement dial. Before you know it, $4K.

NOT WORTH IT!

swatty · 5 April 2010, 09:40 AM

I wonder why someone would put a fake dial into a real watch? Stay clear IMO .

Earl Camembert · 5 April 2010, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swatty

I wonder why someone would put a fake dial into a real watch? Stay clear IMO .

Not a fake dial a refinished dial. The reason is because Rolex restrains the trade and parts are if not imposable prohibitively expensive.

SubKing · 5 April 2010, 09:45 AM

the bracelet looks real but looks like it may have been taken from another sub, a much older sub... the dial is aftermarket, so is the insert. but the watch it self is real. just aftermarket dial and insert.

TheBluePrince · 5 April 2010, 09:46 AM

I'm sure i've seen that dial before. It doens't exactly match the other one i posted but i've def seen it before more than once. I'm "dial blind" now having looked at half a dozen in the last 15 min though so that's it for tonight on this one from me, lol.

TheBluePrince · 5 April 2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SubKing

the bracelet looks real but looks like it may have been taken from another sub, a much older sub... the dial is aftermarket, so is the insert. but the watch it self is real. just aftermarket dial and insert.

Which bit on insert make you think it's after-market? It looks too shiny because it's got 5000W of camera flash bouncing off it, lol.

Nicko · 5 April 2010, 05:19 PM

It's still UGLY!

Earl Camembert · 5 April 2010, 05:39 PM

I think we should all get into a 15 passenger commuter van with 10X loops and visit these sellers.

idk01 · 5 April 2010, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

I think we should all get into a 15 passenger commuter van with 10X loops and visit these sellers.

As long as the food on the way is good

marie · 5 April 2010, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl Camembert

I think we should all get into a 15 passenger commuter van with 10X loops and visit these sellers.

Road trip!!!!

Actually... could you see it??? The sellers would

their pants!!

mcjp6 · 5 April 2010, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcl

Road trip!!!!

Actually... could you see it??? The sellers would

their pants!!

Road trip? Here's a van we can use.

idk01 · 5 April 2010, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcjp6

Road trip? Here a van we can use.

Thats my kind of van

BASSETHOUNDS · 6 April 2010, 12:08 AM

Do not like that dial either , just doesn't seem right . I believe "Orchi" would get stomach ache just by looking at it .

ROGERB · 6 April 2010, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROGERB

Why??
R

The reason for my original question was that other than the clearrly fake/refinished dial the rest looked OK to me ( no expert here). The font on that dial looks to me like the font you see when they change the colour of Sub dials or create aftermarket Serti dials. The clasp code is correct for the year the seller is stating. I just didn't think it was necessarily a total "Fake". Cheers
R

5 April 2010, 06:17 AM	#1
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	Fake 16610 Sub http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Submariner...item19bb3bc301 pinnaclesells 1859 99.7% Positive feedback

5 April 2010, 06:42 AM	#2
ROGERB "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Roger Location: WHITE ROCK BC Watch: 89 16610, 57 7914, Posts: 897	Why?? R

5 April 2010, 07:13 AM	#5
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,551	agreed, that dial is not right.. and the check the plastic gasket under the crystal/above the rehuat!

5 April 2010, 08:53 AM	#6
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Guys, i haven't looked at the dial in detail but will do in a bit but otherwise that watch is FINE and GENUINE Edit - Looked at the dial some more and think it's fine re the text, and spacing etc but the Swiss T<25 and crown look a bit odd. Could be angle or size of pics maybe as they both look stretched vertically. It certainly isn't a fake sub imo.

5 April 2010, 08:57 AM	#7
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,631	Watch may be fine, but the DIAL is a nasty redial!

5 April 2010, 09:08 AM	#8
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	Definitely genuine dial to compare It's very very close!

5 April 2010, 09:24 AM	#9
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,631	dial STINKOS! NASTY REDIAL!

5 April 2010, 09:26 AM	#10
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	There's no point me asking as he doens't ship out of the USA but one of you folks should contact the seller, express your concerns about the dial. Seller has a return policy and is open to questions so ask him if you bought it and it was confirmed as not an original dial would he offer full refund?

5 April 2010, 09:27 AM	#11
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,631	It is NOT an original dial. NO need to ask him!

5 April 2010, 09:29 AM	#13
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,631	DUCK season!

5 April 2010, 09:29 AM	#14
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	Definitely genuine dial to compare Subject dial.

5 April 2010, 09:40 AM	#18
swatty 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,409	I wonder why someone would put a fake dial into a real watch? Stay clear IMO .

5 April 2010, 09:45 AM	#20
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	the bracelet looks real but looks like it may have been taken from another sub, a much older sub... the dial is aftermarket, so is the insert. but the watch it self is real. just aftermarket dial and insert.

5 April 2010, 09:46 AM	#21
TheBluePrince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London Posts: 2,081	I'm sure i've seen that dial before. It doens't exactly match the other one i posted but i've def seen it before more than once. I'm "dial blind" now having looked at half a dozen in the last 15 min though so that's it for tonight on this one from me, lol.

5 April 2010, 05:19 PM	#23
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	It's still UGLY!

5 April 2010, 05:39 PM	#24
Earl Camembert Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,858	I think we should all get into a 15 passenger commuter van with 10X loops and visit these sellers.

6 April 2010, 12:08 AM	#29
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Do not like that dial either , just doesn't seem right . I believe "Orchi" would get stomach ache just by looking at it .

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