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Old 29 December 2010, 03:55 AM   #1
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The Milgauss: Now officially a Professional model!

Hey all,

Just been leafing through the brand new master catalogue at work, and the Milgauss has now been shifted from the standard Oyster section into the Professional section. It had always been odd that it wasn't with the rest of the sports watches, but it's nice to see Rolex have changed their minds. I know it's a little anal, but I thought someone might appreciate the information here

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Old 29 December 2010, 07:06 AM   #2
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I think it's a professional model but not sports model.
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Old 29 December 2010, 07:24 AM   #3
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Hey all,

Just been leafing through the brand new master catalogue at work, and the Milgauss has now been shifted from the standard Oyster section into the Professional section. It had always been odd that it wasn't with the rest of the sports watches, but it's nice to see Rolex have changed their minds. I know it's a little anal, but I thought someone might appreciate the information here

Chris
thanks for the info Chris, but what exactly is a Rolex Professional Model?
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Old 29 December 2010, 07:26 AM   #4
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thanks for the info Chris, but what exactly is a Rolex Professional Model?
+1, could you please explain the difference?
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Old 29 December 2010, 07:55 AM   #5
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+1, could you please explain the difference?
Professional is the official Rolex term for what most of us call Sports models. If you look in the master catalogue, it is split into:

Gents' size Oyster (34mm, 36mm and 41mm)
*Air King
*Oyster Perpetual
*Date
*Datejust/Datejust II
*Day-Date/Day-Date II
Mid-size Oyster (31mm and 34mm)
*Oyster Perpetual
*Datejust/Pearlmaster
Ladies' size Oyster (26mm and 29mm)
*Oyster Perpetual
*Datejust/Pearlmaster
Professional Models (39mm, 40mm, 41mm, 43mm)
*Milgauss
*Explorer/Explorer II
*Yacht-Master/Yacht-Master II
*GMT-Master II
*Submariner/Deep Sea
*Daytona
Cellini
*Various Models


My point is that the Milgauss has been moved away from the Air Kings and Datejusts etc., to with the other "sports" models
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Old 29 December 2010, 07:58 AM   #6
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thank you Sir.
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:00 AM   #7
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Care to also explain what does Oyster mean?
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:01 AM   #8
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thank you Sir.
Since when did you call me "sir," Eric? But anytime
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:02 AM   #9
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Care to also explain what does Oyster mean?
Oyster refers to the case - 95% of the Rolex range uses Oyster cases, and it means that they are waterproof to at least 100m
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:03 AM   #10
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Good info, Chris, thanks.
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:03 AM   #11
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:04 AM   #12
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Since when did you call me "sir," Eric? But anytime
since about.... 09:58 PM, today.

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No problem, glad I could help
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:05 AM   #14
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since about.... 09:58 PM, today.

have a great evening Sir


You too Sir
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:06 AM   #15
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Professional is Rolex's way of saying, what we lay people refer to as a "tool" watch...something designed with a specific purpose or use in mind.
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:38 AM   #16
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I think it's a professional model but not sports model.
It could be used while earning money, unless doing so would involve athletics. And the GMT *is* a "sports" model because...? These are just a bunch of focus-tested words that marketing agency folks have learned to throw at us. They have no meaning.
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:44 AM   #17
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GMT is a sports model because its look is casual. From my understanding, sports means casual and dress means formal.
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:47 AM   #18
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It could be used while earning money, unless doing so would involve athletics. And the GMT *is* a "sports" model because...? These are just a bunch of focus-tested words that marketing agency folks have learned to throw at us. They have no meaning.
So I guess the SS/Pt. YM could be considered as a dress-cum-sporty-cum-professional model!!

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Wouldn't it be wonderful if they brushed the Milgauss center links as a nod to the shift to the Professional line?
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Old 29 December 2010, 04:41 PM   #20
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Can I ask where the 29mm and 35mm Yachtmasters fit in this typology? Are they considered ladies' size and gents' size Oyster (based on their size) or professional models (where Yachtmaster is slotted).

It's the one model I can think of that doesn't fit neatly into this system i.e. it's the only professional model that comes in smaller sizes.

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Professional is the official Rolex term for what most of us call Sports models. If you look in the master catalogue, it is split into:

Gents' size Oyster (34mm, 36mm and 41mm)
*Air King
*Oyster Perpetual
*Date
*Datejust/Datejust II
*Day-Date/Day-Date II
Mid-size Oyster (31mm and 34mm)
*Oyster Perpetual
*Datejust/Pearlmaster
Ladies' size Oyster (26mm and 29mm)
*Oyster Perpetual
*Datejust/Pearlmaster
Professional Models (39mm, 40mm, 41mm, 43mm)
*Milgauss
*Explorer/Explorer II
*Yacht-Master/Yacht-Master II
*GMT-Master II
*Submariner/Deep Sea
*Daytona
Cellini
*Various Models


My point is that the Milgauss has been moved away from the Air Kings and Datejusts etc., to with the other "sports" models
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Old 29 December 2010, 08:06 PM   #21
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Can I ask where the 29mm and 35mm Yachtmasters fit in this typology? Are they considered ladies' size and gents' size Oyster (based on their size) or professional models (where Yachtmaster is slotted).

It's the one model I can think of that doesn't fit neatly into this system i.e. it's the only professional model that comes in smaller sizes.
They're still classed as professional models, the Yacht-Master (oddly) is the only Professional model offered in more than one size. It would be great if they did the same with the Sub and GMT, for example, there would be a market for it
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Old 30 December 2010, 02:08 AM   #22
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They're still classed as professional models, the Yacht-Master (oddly) is the only Professional model offered in more than one size. It would be great if they did the same with the Sub and GMT, for example, there would be a market for it
Thanks - interesting info.
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Old 30 December 2010, 02:18 AM   #23
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if they brushed the Milgauss center links as a nod to the shift to the Professional line?
Why? The YM/YMII, GMTIIC and Daytona has the PCL too...
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