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Old 27 April 2012, 07:48 AM   #1
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Yet another DD I vs DD II thread? Yes!

I take exception to all the criticism of the bezel on the DD II. To me, it seems appropriate to the size of the watch. Here are a I and II side-by-side. They don't look so dramatically different in overall style; only in size. Look at each one in isolation and it's clear to me, at least, that both are just fine as a DD. Look at them together in a shop; and the II is clearly much bigger overall and it becomes easy to focus on that and enter an almost OCD state of mind in comparing the two versions with the familiar traditional size being the baseline for comparison. I know; been there; done that; moved on.

I see 36 mm DDs "in the wild" that look absolutely fantastic on the wearer; and I've seen my DD II (not many "in the wild" yet) on others and it looked great on them. I think in the end how they look on one's arm is the determinative factor on the 36 vs 41 decision; and that Rolex made a smart move in offering the larger alternative.

So...when it first came out, I focused on the bezel size when I looked at photos; and I was critical; but real world experience "in the wild" with both DD versions has convinced me that it's just like shoe size; get the one that fits best and if a wider width helps; go for it. To me, the larger bezel is a good idea for the larger dial. I chose the II for better or worse because it just felt better. I gave up my I to get the II.





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Old 27 April 2012, 08:24 AM   #2
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The DJII bezel does look fat when side by side with the DJ. But I believe it is well proportioned to the case when it is on your wrist.

Either way - great addition, er, replacement!
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Old 27 April 2012, 08:28 AM   #3
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I love the DDII

As for the bezel, its a flashy bezel on a flashy watch!
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Old 27 April 2012, 08:32 AM   #4
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I love the DDII

As for the bezel, its a flashy bezel on a flashy watch!
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Old 27 April 2012, 08:37 AM   #5
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Looks great Otto!!!!
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Old 27 April 2012, 08:45 AM   #6
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Great comparisions Otto.

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I know when I try Day Dates, I always try the DD first. But at 6'3" and my old eye's I just can't see myself getting anything but the DDII if I ever actually get one.
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Old 27 April 2012, 09:25 AM   #7
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Love it, very pretty.
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Old 27 April 2012, 10:08 AM   #8
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Great side-by-side Otto. Nice that you could get the same watch (gold choice and dial) to compare. I've decided on the DDII, the bezel only looks really big when you have it right next to a 36mm. Now comes challenge number II: dial choice. I think the champagne dial looks too monochromatic, and I'd like something simple, black or white. Then the next question in stick dial or romans. So many choices...
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Old 27 April 2012, 10:40 AM   #9
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The champagne dial only looks monochromatic in photos...
The crystal adds a bit of glow to the dial and it really dances on the wrist...

The I vs II debate is a tough one. I have the DD I and a couple DJ I's and a DJ II. ..

Everytime I have either on my wrist it seems like the perfect watch...

I do think that the bigger size adds a bit of sportiness...

And the wider bezel reflects light in a way that you have to see in the wild to truly appreciate...

I think that there is no right answer...
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Old 27 April 2012, 10:54 AM   #10
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does anyone havea dj1 vs dj2 side by side?
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Old 27 April 2012, 11:13 AM   #11
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What a gorgeous watch! Wear it in good health Otto
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Old 27 April 2012, 11:17 AM   #12
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Old 27 April 2012, 11:17 AM   #13
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I disagree, respectfully. IMHO, the bezel on the DDII looks flat and out of proportion. while the bezel on the DDI is sharp, crisp and perfect.
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Old 27 April 2012, 12:23 PM   #14
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Seeing Ottos`s DD II in person was mesmorizing... Awesome Rolex!
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Old 27 April 2012, 12:31 PM   #15
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Stunning timepiece ..
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Old 27 April 2012, 12:35 PM   #16
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Gold works well on you Otto. I will have a WG watch some day!
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Old 27 April 2012, 12:35 PM   #17
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Otto,
No question a live wrist test is the best way to determine what size works best. Proportions can be hard to quantify in pics.
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Old 27 April 2012, 12:36 PM   #18
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Old 27 April 2012, 01:35 PM   #19
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the daydateII has to be tried on to compare it with the daydate, imho the daydateII trumps the original.

Otto made the right decision, I have always thought that the daydate would be perfect if they upsized it and when rolex did they made perfection!
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Old 27 April 2012, 01:44 PM   #20
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I disagree, respectfully. IMHO, the bezel on the DDII looks flat and out of proportion. while the bezel on the DDI is sharp, crisp and perfect.
I agree 100% but its up to each person to decide what ever they like better, thats what makes the world go round.
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Old 27 April 2012, 02:24 PM   #21
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One day .....

YG DD II with Roman Champagne
Plat DD II with ice-blue diamond dial

I will be in watch heaven
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Old 27 April 2012, 02:46 PM   #22
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Love the classic 36mm a Rolex i'd like to add to the list!
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Old 27 April 2012, 05:24 PM   #23
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The trend is to go bigger, even PP is going big. I like DDII at 41, any bigger however, would ruin the oyster case look.
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Old 27 April 2012, 05:26 PM   #24
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I have a Small wrist, but I was making the same comparison myself. I am thinking of the same watches, but preowned. I guess a 36 mm 118238 goes for about $15k used?
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Old 27 April 2012, 05:57 PM   #25
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YG DD II with Roman Champagne
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Better be nice to antie.
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Old 27 April 2012, 08:03 PM   #26
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Nice Otto!

I didn't care much for the DDII or DJII at all.
That is, until I actually tried them on . I love the proportions and the bezel.
These look much different on the wrist than sitting in a showcase.
I can surely see one in my future.
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Old 27 April 2012, 11:15 PM   #27
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Love the DDII. Thanks for the comparison shots Otto.
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Old 27 April 2012, 11:44 PM   #28
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Thanks Otto. I love seeing pics of your DDII and only wish you'd post them more often! I also love the bezel on the DDII, the sparkle is beautiful, tasteful, and elegant.
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Old 28 April 2012, 07:19 AM   #29
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I like em both. I hope to sell my 36 and get. 41mm. But RG is my favorite!
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Old 28 April 2012, 12:23 PM   #30
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They are both fabulouse watches. Come on guys it's solid gold what's not to like about them. If you could turn a turd into gold people would still stare it.
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