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Sabaka · 4 June 2012, 01:20 AM

Hello,

I am looking to buy my first Patek (being a Rolex guy for many years). I decided to go with a rose gold Calatrava.
However, I cannot choose between these 3 models:
1. 5123R
2. 5127R
3. 5296-010R

All 3 have similar dials and hands. However 5123R is a manual movement and was just released this year in Basel but has no date. I want to ask your advise and comments about these 3 watches. Also conc and pros between a manual wind 215 movement versus 324 automatic. The 324 automatic looks nicer to me but may be the manual wind is more robust. Also the 5123 has a snap back while the automatics have a screw in back, which is probable and advantage.

Greatly appreciate your comments!

FeelingTheBlues · 4 June 2012, 01:29 AM

I personally wouldn't choose the 5123R but that's only because I'm not such a fan of its lugs (they're going under the case and the a bit too round case isn't my cup of tea). Having said that, if I had a collection of Rolex watches like you I would probably go with the 5127R because its shape makes it look like a real dress watch and therefore would make it look more unique in your collection. Besides, the lines of it, the crown guards and the lugs look very fancy.

I personally don't think there is such a big difference in those movements toughness. I like the idea of having a manual winding dress watch but an automatic sure is more useful if you wear it rather often (besides, one can only love Patek's 21kt gold rotors). As for the case back, I don't think it should influence your choice because you will most probably never open the case yourself (I strongly recommend you to leave this to a professional watchmaker if not Patek itself).

In the end, it's your decision and they all look fantastic but that's my opinion! I hope you will enjoy your Patek a lot when you'll have it!

kilyung · 4 June 2012, 01:49 AM

5296 for me. Classic!

dddrees · 4 June 2012, 01:49 AM

If I bought a Calatrava it would not be a daily wearer for me. So having or not having a date wouldn't be an issue for me. I would also probably go for simple more elegant dial. The 5123 would more than likely be the one I would chose.

S`` · 4 June 2012, 01:51 AM

If i am a CEO, which I'm not... this would be it... so formal, thin, clean... BOD look for sure

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=236257

topcat30093 · 4 June 2012, 02:07 AM

Personally, I would choice the 5127R, that piece gas always been one of my favourite Calatrava's.

Simple design but very classy.

randyyeap · 4 June 2012, 02:12 AM

Among 3 My vote go for 5127 but prefer it with G but R is ok

goog53 · 4 June 2012, 06:04 AM

Out of the three it would have to be a 5123R for me

eric23 · 4 June 2012, 08:39 AM

I would go with a 5120, small but a nice classic dress watch with a real nice auto movement. If hey made a rose gold version I would want it even more:)

HL65 · 4 June 2012, 08:40 AM

5127r

S`` · 4 June 2012, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric23

I would go with a 5120, small but a nice classic dress watch with a real nice auto movement. If hey made a rose gold version I would want it even more:)

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=236257

Calling for an enabling... here's a 5120

eric23 · 4 June 2012, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S``

http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=236257

Calling for an enabling... here's a 5120

I have been looking at that one

but no more watches this year.

S`` · 4 June 2012, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric23

I have been looking at that one

but no more watches this year.

too bad... doesnt look good with a polo tee

eric23 · 4 June 2012, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S``

too bad... doesnt look good with a polo tee

True a 5712 might be more use for me.

S`` · 5 June 2012, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric23

True a 5712 might be more use for me.

self enabling...

herbie911 · 5 June 2012, 02:53 AM

I prefer white gold but if I have to pick a rose gold Calatrava, it will still be the 5127R!

Sabaka · 5 June 2012, 07:19 AM

Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for all of your valuable thoughts and feedback! I really appreciate it.
Looks like 5127 gets the preference here.

dddrees · 5 June 2012, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabaka

Hi everyone,

Thanks so much for all of your valuable thoughts and feedback! I really appreciate it.
Looks like 5127 gets the preference here.

But more importantly have you determined which one you prefer?

FeelingTheBlues · 5 June 2012, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddrees

But more importantly have you determined which one you prefer?

Very good point! We can always give you our opinion but we don't want to literally choose for you. Only you can decide which one to get and it depends on your personal preferences.

SubmarinerMariner · 5 June 2012, 10:14 AM

Best Calatrava is the Officers Watch (IMHO)...the Patek Philippe 5153J

Check out the opening back that shows the movement (or not)...best get it in the Gold version, I just tried the White Gold version at the AD, and I must say the RG version is much nicer...check out that Hinged Dust Cover in the 360 mode in the Patek Site...

eric23 · 5 June 2012, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S``

self enabling...

zeuloa · 5 June 2012, 06:10 PM

5127r

Andad · 5 June 2012, 07:08 PM

Are watch pix banned on this sub-forum?

I see the model numbers but not the watches.

FeelingTheBlues · 5 June 2012, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

Are watch pix banned on this sub-forum?

I see the model numbers but not the watches.

You have to be a member of the Patek elite to see the pictures Eddie!

msimm30 · 9 June 2012, 02:45 PM

Have you considered the 5119, or are you going for something that looks a little younger?

Sabaka · 10 June 2012, 12:26 AM

Yes, I tried 5119 but decided to go with 5127R at the end. Thank you guys for all the input! Will post pics once I have the watch. Just placed an order and it is my first Patek (hopefully last too).

ocwatching · 10 June 2012, 01:43 AM

Congrats! 5127 is a winner...looking forward to wristshots...

dddrees · 10 June 2012, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabaka

Yes, I tried 5119 but decided to go with 5127R at the end. Thank you guys for all the input! Will post pics once I have the watch. Just placed an order and it is my first Patek (hopefully last too).

Huge Congrats on your first Patek, can't wait to see your wrist shots.

FeelingTheBlues · 10 June 2012, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabaka

Yes, I tried 5119 but decided to go with 5127R at the end. Thank you guys for all the input! Will post pics once I have the watch. Just placed an order and it is my first Patek (hopefully last too).

You have made a wise and great choice my friend! Looking forward to seeing the pictures!

Sabaka · 10 June 2012, 10:57 AM

Thanks everyone! I learned a lot from this forum. Being a Rolex guy for 7 years, Patek is a new thing for me. Never thought I would want a higher end watch than Rolex. Tried Patek on 2 weeks ago and just had to have one. Hopefully it will be my exit watch, if such thing exists.

4 June 2012, 01:20 AM	#1
Sabaka Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: US Posts: 50	Which Calatrava? Hello, I am looking to buy my first Patek (being a Rolex guy for many years). I decided to go with a rose gold Calatrava. However, I cannot choose between these 3 models: 1. 5123R 2. 5127R 3. 5296-010R All 3 have similar dials and hands. However 5123R is a manual movement and was just released this year in Basel but has no date. I want to ask your advise and comments about these 3 watches. Also conc and pros between a manual wind 215 movement versus 324 automatic. The 324 automatic looks nicer to me but may be the manual wind is more robust. Also the 5123 has a snap back while the automatics have a screw in back, which is probable and advantage. Greatly appreciate your comments!

4 June 2012, 01:29 AM	#2
FeelingTheBlues "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Carl Location: Always moving Watch: If you wish... Posts: 22,039	I personally wouldn't choose the 5123R but that's only because I'm not such a fan of its lugs (they're going under the case and the a bit too round case isn't my cup of tea). Having said that, if I had a collection of Rolex watches like you I would probably go with the 5127R because its shape makes it look like a real dress watch and therefore would make it look more unique in your collection. Besides, the lines of it, the crown guards and the lugs look very fancy. I personally don't think there is such a big difference in those movements toughness. I like the idea of having a manual winding dress watch but an automatic sure is more useful if you wear it rather often (besides, one can only love Patek's 21kt gold rotors). As for the case back, I don't think it should influence your choice because you will most probably never open the case yourself (I strongly recommend you to leave this to a professional watchmaker if not Patek itself). In the end, it's your decision and they all look fantastic but that's my opinion! I hope you will enjoy your Patek a lot when you'll have it! __________________ Mon corps c'est un pays en guerre sur l'point d'finir, Le général de l'armée de terre s'attend au pire, J'ai faim, j'ai frette, je suis trop faible pour me lever debout, On va hisser le drapeau blanc un point c'est tout. - André Fortin

4 June 2012, 01:49 AM	#4
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	If I bought a Calatrava it would not be a daily wearer for me. So having or not having a date wouldn't be an issue for me. I would also probably go for simple more elegant dial. The 5123 would more than likely be the one I would chose. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

4 June 2012, 02:07 AM	#6
topcat30093 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: England Posts: 5,425	Personally, I would choice the 5127R, that piece gas always been one of my favourite Calatrava's. Simple design but very classy. __________________

4 June 2012, 08:40 AM	#10
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,492	5127r __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

4 June 2012, 01:49 AM	#3
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,873	5296 for me. Classic!

4 June 2012, 01:51 AM	#5
S`` "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Not Mars Posts: 1,004	If i am a CEO, which I'm not... this would be it... so formal, thin, clean... BOD look for sure http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=236257

4 June 2012, 02:12 AM	#7
randyyeap "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Randy Location: malaysia Posts: 298	Among 3 My vote go for 5127 but prefer it with G but R is ok

4 June 2012, 06:04 AM	#8
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,063	Out of the three it would have to be a 5123R for me

4 June 2012, 08:39 AM	#9
eric23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Calgary Posts: 9,595	I would go with a 5120, small but a nice classic dress watch with a real nice auto movement. If hey made a rose gold version I would want it even more:)

5 June 2012, 02:53 AM	#16
herbie911 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: united kingdom Posts: 445	I prefer white gold but if I have to pick a rose gold Calatrava, it will still be the 5127R!

5 June 2012, 07:19 AM	#17
Sabaka Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: US Posts: 50	Hi everyone, Thanks so much for all of your valuable thoughts and feedback! I really appreciate it. Looks like 5127 gets the preference here.

5 June 2012, 10:14 AM	#20
SubmarinerMariner "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Namor Location: New York Watch: 100-04-11-01-04 Posts: 841	Best Calatrava is the Officers Watch (IMHO)...the Patek Philippe 5153J Check out the opening back that shows the movement (or not)...best get it in the Gold version, I just tried the White Gold version at the AD, and I must say the RG version is much nicer...check out that Hinged Dust Cover in the 360 mode in the Patek Site...

5 June 2012, 06:10 PM	#22
zeuloa "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Jose Location: Here Watch: SEA-DWELLER Posts: 2,232	5127r

5 June 2012, 07:08 PM	#23
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,962	Are watch pix banned on this sub-forum? I see the model numbers but not the watches. __________________ E

9 June 2012, 02:45 PM	#25
msimm30 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: TN Watch: Seiko Posts: 80	Have you considered the 5119, or are you going for something that looks a little younger?

10 June 2012, 12:26 AM	#26
Sabaka Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: US Posts: 50	Yes, I tried 5119 but decided to go with 5127R at the end. Thank you guys for all the input! Will post pics once I have the watch. Just placed an order and it is my first Patek (hopefully last too).

10 June 2012, 01:43 AM	#27
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	Congrats! 5127 is a winner...looking forward to wristshots... __________________ too much into watches...

10 June 2012, 10:57 AM	#30
Sabaka Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: US Posts: 50	Thanks everyone! I learned a lot from this forum. Being a Rolex guy for 7 years, Patek is a new thing for me. Never thought I would want a higher end watch than Rolex. Tried Patek on 2 weeks ago and just had to have one. Hopefully it will be my exit watch, if such thing exists.

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