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Horology.life · 25 January 2014, 07:02 AM

Hi everyone, I recently acquired this Tudor Submariner 9728.
Overall it's not it too bad condition and has original paper work.
The bracelet has one broken link.
The crystal is chipped and scratched.
And the crown wheel is broken, but the movement does work after some slight movement.
Today I sent the watch away for repair and restoration, and will hopefully have it back within 3/4 months.
What does everyone think?

Horology.life · 25 January 2014, 07:04 AM

And another couple of pictures I have are as follows

Horology.life · 25 January 2014, 07:07 AM

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swatty · 25 January 2014, 07:20 AM

That's a beauty, the dial will look great with a new crystal

donaker · 25 January 2014, 07:40 AM

congrats! that should turn out great. where did you send it for it's restoration?

CrownMe · 25 January 2014, 07:41 AM

Wow that dial is amazing. Beautiful watch. Where did you find it? Would love to hear the story of the watch and see a picture with the certificate.

I will say I've never seen solid end links on that model

Paul · 25 January 2014, 07:41 AM

Looks like a real survivor and certainly worthy of a freshen up. Lovely patina to the dial IMHO.

If you haven't already done so, perhaps just check in with your watchmaker about their plans for the case.
Easy for an overly-zealous watchmaker to delight the owner with a highly polished case. A clean is good .... a polish is bad.
An unsympathetic polish can instantly knock some serious value off a vintage Rolex or Tudor case.

Might be teaching you to suck eggs but just thought I'd check

dysondiver · 25 January 2014, 07:42 AM

looking good now , bet it will be great when its done

Horology.life · 25 January 2014, 08:11 AM

Well I found the watch in a local pawn brokers and was immediately interested in it, so I took the serial number and model number and done a bit of research. Spoke to rolex and the watch was sold in my town at a local shop that still exists. It has been back to rolex 3 times in its life for service and has has the same owner from new until at least 2007, which is the last time there is record of the watch until now. Unfortunately rolex said they couldn't service or repair the watch because it is over 30years old, but put me in contact with a vintage rolex/Tudor watch restorer in London which they recommend, called Steven hale watch restoration. I then went and purchased the watch. Then spoke to SHWR and emailed them pictures and are confident of a full repair and restoration of the watch. They have recommended for the bezel and case only to be cleaned and maybe a slight polish on the bracelet, upon further inspection once they have inspected the watch.
I will keep everyone updated on this watch.

lhanddds · 25 January 2014, 08:31 AM

Nice congrats

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Lgear080 · 25 January 2014, 09:29 AM

IMO don't polish at all. Don't remove the crystal either.
Simply internal refresh and bracelet pins.

Don't turn a survivor into a restoration project.
There are less and less of these in untouched condition.

You'll appreciate my advice in the future, especially if you
Hold her for awhile.

Lgear080 · 25 January 2014, 09:29 AM

IMO don't polish at all. Don't remove the crystal either.
Simply internal refresh and bracelet pins.

Don't turn a survivor into a restoration project.
There are less and less of these in untouched condition.

You'll appreciate my advice in the future, especially if you
Hold her for awhile.

MitchSteel · 25 January 2014, 09:44 AM

Already anticipating the After pics

etp095 · 25 January 2014, 10:17 AM

Nice find, looking forward to after pics also.

CrownMe · 25 January 2014, 10:21 AM

personally i would service the movement, replace the crystal, lightly polish the case (Only if they know what there doing) and i would source a 93150 with the correct end links. they will fit the watch better and wont damage the inside of the lugs.

That is a very nice sub. the dial is sweet. Love chapter ring dials

John in MA · 25 January 2014, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownMe

personally i would service the movement, replace the crystal, lightly polish the case (Only if they know what there doing) and i would source a 93150 with the correct end links. they will fit the watch better and wont damage the inside of the lugs.

That is a very nice sub. the dial is sweet. Love chapter ring dials

I agree. The bracelet is an aftermarket though the clasp could be real. Not worth fixing that bracelet.

CrownMe · 25 January 2014, 10:43 AM

i would love to see a picture of the original paperwork. I like seeing pictures of the Tudor papers because you just dont see them often. I was very happy to get the original punched papers with my snowflake.

V.lats97nsx · 25 January 2014, 10:44 AM

Just for curiosity did they give you an approximate cost for te service?

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CrownMe · 25 January 2014, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John in MA

I agree. The bracelet is an aftermarket though the clasp could be real. Not worth fixing that bracelet.

what did u see that told you the bracelet was aftermarket? i didnt even notice. I just seen the solid end links and thought the bracelet was just added down the road.

Horology.life · 25 January 2014, 11:04 AM

So what bracelet should the watch have came with? The bracelet with the watch is fully stamped with part numbers and I'm pretty sure it's not aftermarket (fake).
2 links that have ever been used. And has the one broken end link.
They have quoted £350 for service with new crystal.

V.lats97nsx · 25 January 2014, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 22cps

So what bracelet should the watch have came with? The bracelet with the watch is fully stamped with part numbers and I'm pretty sure it's not aftermarket (fake).
2 links that have ever been used. And has the one broken end link.
They have quoted £350 for service with new crystal.

Something like this im not 100% sure but I think its a riveted bracelet

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John in MA · 25 January 2014, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownMe

what did u see that told you the bracelet was aftermarket? i didnt even notice. I just seen the solid end links and thought the bracelet was just added down the road.

Solid end links.

93250 won't fit acrylic subs correctly. Hollow end links only. It's possible to fit aftermarket SELs to a real bracelet though a lot of work.

It is easier to put a genuine clasp on an aftermarket bracelet though as I've done it before.

This was an aftermarket SEL bracelet I used.

drainaps · 25 January 2014, 04:51 PM

That's a SWEET one. Movement service, swap crystal and NOTHING else. Bracelet should be replaced though as not corresponding to the watch.

Brisman · 25 January 2014, 06:31 PM

It looks to be a nice piece.

I'm just a bit unsure about the hour hand, I may be wrong but it looks like a replacement.

Any comments on this, always keen to be educated,

watchcrank · 25 January 2014, 11:23 PM

S Hale is very reputable shop. good luck with the resto M

rmurphy · 27 February 2014, 10:03 PM

I would love to find something just like it! Maybe even a Tudor DD or just a date model. Anything Tudor that's right priced really. Love your watch and can't wait to see it all spiffed up. Congrats

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Vincent65 · 27 February 2014, 10:17 PM

nice one - will look great when it's done!

soundserious · 28 February 2014, 11:20 AM

can u show pic of original paperwork?

25 January 2014, 07:41 AM	#7
Paul "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,000	Nice one mate ..... Looks like a real survivor and certainly worthy of a freshen up. Lovely patina to the dial IMHO. If you haven't already done so, perhaps just check in with your watchmaker about their plans for the case. Easy for an overly-zealous watchmaker to delight the owner with a highly polished case. A clean is good .... a polish is bad. An unsympathetic polish can instantly knock some serious value off a vintage Rolex or Tudor case. Might be teaching you to suck eggs but just thought I'd check

25 January 2014, 09:44 AM	#13
MitchSteel "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: MDangerSteel Location: Canada Watch: Vintage Rolex Posts: 2,301	Already anticipating the After pics __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons Probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival---Capt. Rage Don't believe anything in aviation, 'till V1---Mitch Danger Steel

25 January 2014, 10:17 AM	#14
etp095 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: rudolph Location: chicago burbs Posts: 2,026	Nice find, looking forward to after pics also. __________________ tt date circa 69' 5513 circa 81' ss sub w/date (z) pepsi gmt for dad(D) polar expy II(z) 1675 gmt circa 68' ladies datejust on jubilee for mom (z) sea dweller16600(M) SS Sub-C(g) Omega Planet Ocean,45.5 on mesh(2500D)

25 January 2014, 07:20 AM	#4
swatty 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,409	That's a beauty, the dial will look great with a new crystal

25 January 2014, 07:40 AM	#5
donaker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Canada Watch: Dad's 5508 Posts: 354	congrats! that should turn out great. where did you send it for it's restoration?

25 January 2014, 07:41 AM	#6
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	Wow that dial is amazing. Beautiful watch. Where did you find it? Would love to hear the story of the watch and see a picture with the certificate. I will say I've never seen solid end links on that model

25 January 2014, 07:42 AM	#8
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	looking good now , bet it will be great when its done

25 January 2014, 08:11 AM	#9
Horology.life "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: U.K Posts: 677	Well I found the watch in a local pawn brokers and was immediately interested in it, so I took the serial number and model number and done a bit of research. Spoke to rolex and the watch was sold in my town at a local shop that still exists. It has been back to rolex 3 times in its life for service and has has the same owner from new until at least 2007, which is the last time there is record of the watch until now. Unfortunately rolex said they couldn't service or repair the watch because it is over 30years old, but put me in contact with a vintage rolex/Tudor watch restorer in London which they recommend, called Steven hale watch restoration. I then went and purchased the watch. Then spoke to SHWR and emailed them pictures and are confident of a full repair and restoration of the watch. They have recommended for the bezel and case only to be cleaned and maybe a slight polish on the bracelet, upon further inspection once they have inspected the watch. I will keep everyone updated on this watch.

25 January 2014, 08:31 AM	#10
lhanddds Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Watch: of course Posts: 8,429	Nice congrats Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk

25 January 2014, 09:29 AM	#11
Lgear080 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 3,506	IMO don't polish at all. Don't remove the crystal either. Simply internal refresh and bracelet pins. Don't turn a survivor into a restoration project. There are less and less of these in untouched condition. You'll appreciate my advice in the future, especially if you Hold her for awhile.

25 January 2014, 10:21 AM	#15
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	personally i would service the movement, replace the crystal, lightly polish the case (Only if they know what there doing) and i would source a 93150 with the correct end links. they will fit the watch better and wont damage the inside of the lugs. That is a very nice sub. the dial is sweet. Love chapter ring dials

25 January 2014, 10:43 AM	#17
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	i would love to see a picture of the original paperwork. I like seeing pictures of the Tudor papers because you just dont see them often. I was very happy to get the original punched papers with my snowflake.

25 January 2014, 10:44 AM	#18
V.lats97nsx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Syracuse Posts: 3,933	Just for curiosity did they give you an approximate cost for te service? Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

25 January 2014, 11:04 AM	#20
Horology.life "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: U.K Posts: 677	So what bracelet should the watch have came with? The bracelet with the watch is fully stamped with part numbers and I'm pretty sure it's not aftermarket (fake). 2 links that have ever been used. And has the one broken end link. They have quoted £350 for service with new crystal.

25 January 2014, 04:51 PM	#23
drainaps "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Shanghai Watch: Too many to tell Posts: 522	That's a SWEET one. Movement service, swap crystal and NOTHING else. Bracelet should be replaced though as not corresponding to the watch.

25 January 2014, 06:31 PM	#24
Brisman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Donald Location: Australia Posts: 973	It looks to be a nice piece. I'm just a bit unsure about the hour hand, I may be wrong but it looks like a replacement. Any comments on this, always keen to be educated,

25 January 2014, 11:23 PM	#25
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,661	S Hale is very reputable shop. good luck with the resto M

27 February 2014, 10:03 PM	#26
rmurphy 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Real Name: Richard Location: Augusta Georgia Watch: 16600 Posts: 1,058	I would love to find something just like it! Maybe even a Tudor DD or just a date model. Anything Tudor that's right priced really. Love your watch and can't wait to see it all spiffed up. Congrats Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

27 February 2014, 10:17 PM	#27
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,297	nice one - will look great when it's done!

28 February 2014, 11:20 AM	#28
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	can u show pic of original paperwork?

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