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jus256 · 6 May 2014, 05:45 AM

I am a noob and am in no way an expert on any type of watch. This board has so many forums, I wasn’t quite sure where to post this topic. I’ve seen noobs get handed their a-- for starting threads in the wrong forum. Looking at some of the other topics here, I assume the Watch Out forum is the place to post questions about authenticating.

There is a local bi-monthly auction that I started monitoring last summer. I noticed every so often there would be a Rolex or two listed among the items. I know fakes are readily available. Because people seem to be paying more money than I would be willing to risk without being able to authenticate the watch myself, I haven’t come close to bidding on any watch in this auction.

I stumbled upon this forum by accident. I wanted to post a couple of pics in order to get the board’s opinion. I don’t have any model information for the men’s watch. The only thing I have is the selling price which was $800 US. When I went to view some other items in the auction in person, I decided to take a look at the watch. Like I said, I can’t authenticate any watch of any brand. I flipped the watch over to look at the back. The guy behind the counter told me that all Rolex watches will have the magnification in the crystal over the date and will have the green holographic sticker on the back. I had no idea if that was true. For all I know, the employees of the company who run this auction are putting fake watches and jewelry into these auctions because there are suckers who don’t know any better. Looking at the back, I would have sworn there was some sort of oxidation on the underside of the band in the gold strip in the band. It was pretty small but it didn’t seem to scratch off. That seemed odd because I always thought Rolex watches were made of 18K gold. Realistically it could have been anything. At that point I dismissed it as a fake and handed it back to the guy to put in the case. I was surprised when it went for almost $800. By the attached pictures, is there enough information here to dismiss this as a fake? These are the pictures taken by the auction house. If I had known this board was around last week, I could have taken some better pictures with my LG G2 phone.

The second watch in the auction was this thing. I didn't view this in person but because the pictures are on the website, I decided to include them. Someone paid $200 US for this watch.

nickb732 · 6 May 2014, 06:35 AM

Both are awful fakes. Rolex's Day on a DayDate is always on top at the 12 o'clock position, and I can't believe a faker made one with the Day in Mandarin!

Those two look nothing like their genuine equivalents.

francis · 6 May 2014, 07:23 AM

Good god....

crowncollection · 6 May 2014, 07:51 AM

both are fakes sorry

cajunron · 6 May 2014, 07:53 AM

Both fake. If you ever hold a genuine Rolex in your hand, the quality is obvious. Once you have held the real deal, a fake is fairly easy to discern.

socalwatchcollector · 6 May 2014, 10:05 AM

What the heck are those things?

Brezo · 6 May 2014, 10:17 AM

Sorry. No good.

jus256 · 6 May 2014, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

both are fakes sorry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brezo

Sorry. No good.

You don't have to apologize to me. I didn't waste any of my money on either of these beasts. The women's watch was obviously fake. I just posted those pictures because I was having trouble with photobucket and once I got on a roll, I figured I would post those also. The men's watch was a different story. Once I saw the back of the watch, I figured the watch was fake but wasn't 100% sure. What threw me off was the amount of money it sold for. I get the feeling that some of the crap in this auction is entered by the people who work there. Because this is technically a police auction, people don't realize that some of the items in this auction can be entered by people off the street. If I were dishonest, I could probably make money selling crap. Fortunately I like to be able to sleep at night.

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 9 May 2014, 08:54 AM

someone got ripped....

Cc1966 · 9 May 2014, 10:02 PM

Barely even watches...

NathanHendrickson · 11 May 2014, 02:39 AM

That "Rolex water resist" is probably the second worst fake I've ever seen, number 1 being a "Daytona" with a Godzilla band somewhere on this forum.

photo · 11 May 2014, 05:01 PM

Good Grief.. .these don't even require our experts! What's the website address? Please feel free to share ;)

jus256 · 5 June 2014, 01:37 AM

This is the most recent addition to this auction. I won't even post the pictures of the women's watch. The way this auction works is you can pre-bid prior to the actual auction date. The current high bid is visible and is binding. The current bid for this watch is $1,050.

jus256 · 5 June 2014, 02:49 AM

This is the most recent addition to this auction. They have pics of a women’s watch that I won’t even bother posting. This men’s watch is already up to $1,050 in the pre-bidding. When the actual auction starts, they will start at whatever price the pre-bidding is currently at. This one is already higher than the watch in my first post.

jus256 · 14 November 2014, 10:00 AM

This is a different auction than what I posted above. I find this to be absolutely amazing.

http://auction.repocast.com/details.cfm?ID=1922497

crowncollection · 14 November 2014, 10:49 AM

Both watches in the link are horrible fakes

rolex_DateJust · 14 November 2014, 01:05 PM

You Mentioned in your first post that you wish you would've known about this forum a week ago but yet you signed up in May?

Old Expat Beast · 14 November 2014, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rolex_DateJust

You Mentioned in your first post that you wish you would've known about this forum a week ago but yet you signed up in May?

That first post was also made in May.

Laszlo · 14 November 2014, 02:57 PM

I don't know what to say. Speechless.

rolex_DateJust · 15 November 2014, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

That first post was also made in May.

Did not see that! Thanks for clearing it up

bayerische · 15 November 2014, 08:03 AM

I just threw up in my mouth.

rolex_DateJust · 15 November 2014, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

I just threw up in my mouth.

MonBK · 15 November 2014, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NathanHendrickson

That "Rolex water resist" is probably the second worst fake I've ever seen, number 1 being a "Daytona" with a Godzilla band somewhere on this forum.

Worse then this?

jvmartin · 15 November 2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Worse then this?

LOL... nothing is worse than this one!

bayerische · 15 November 2014, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Worse then this?

How does the moon phase work on that one?

MonBK · 15 November 2014, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayerische

How does the moon phase work on that one?

I guess you just keep staring at it.

francis · 16 November 2014, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Worse then this?

At least the numbers on the dial are in the proper sequential order.

cajunron · 17 November 2014, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

Worse then this?

Wait......you mean this isn't real?

How can you tell?

MonBK · 17 November 2014, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgdejong

Wait......you mean this isn't real?

How can you tell?

I made a post here asking if my grandfathers watch was real.

6 May 2014, 05:45 AM	#1
jus256 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: United States Posts: 5	Local Auction I am a noob and am in no way an expert on any type of watch. This board has so many forums, I wasn’t quite sure where to post this topic. I’ve seen noobs get handed their a-- for starting threads in the wrong forum. Looking at some of the other topics here, I assume the Watch Out forum is the place to post questions about authenticating. There is a local bi-monthly auction that I started monitoring last summer. I noticed every so often there would be a Rolex or two listed among the items. I know fakes are readily available. Because people seem to be paying more money than I would be willing to risk without being able to authenticate the watch myself, I haven’t come close to bidding on any watch in this auction. I stumbled upon this forum by accident. I wanted to post a couple of pics in order to get the board’s opinion. I don’t have any model information for the men’s watch. The only thing I have is the selling price which was $800 US. When I went to view some other items in the auction in person, I decided to take a look at the watch. Like I said, I can’t authenticate any watch of any brand. I flipped the watch over to look at the back. The guy behind the counter told me that all Rolex watches will have the magnification in the crystal over the date and will have the green holographic sticker on the back. I had no idea if that was true. For all I know, the employees of the company who run this auction are putting fake watches and jewelry into these auctions because there are suckers who don’t know any better. Looking at the back, I would have sworn there was some sort of oxidation on the underside of the band in the gold strip in the band. It was pretty small but it didn’t seem to scratch off. That seemed odd because I always thought Rolex watches were made of 18K gold. Realistically it could have been anything. At that point I dismissed it as a fake and handed it back to the guy to put in the case. I was surprised when it went for almost $800. By the attached pictures, is there enough information here to dismiss this as a fake? These are the pictures taken by the auction house. If I had known this board was around last week, I could have taken some better pictures with my LG G2 phone. The second watch in the auction was this thing. I didn't view this in person but because the pictures are on the website, I decided to include them. Someone paid $200 US for this watch.

6 May 2014, 06:35 AM	#2
nickb732 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Nicholas Location: UK Posts: 2,630	Both are awful fakes. Rolex's Day on a DayDate is always on top at the 12 o'clock position, and I can't believe a faker made one with the Day in Mandarin! Those two look nothing like their genuine equivalents. __________________ Nick

6 May 2014, 07:51 AM	#4
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	both are fakes sorry __________________ watches many

6 May 2014, 07:53 AM	#5
cajunron 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Ronnie Location: Southeastern USA Watch: Omega Seamaster PO Posts: 3,858	Both fake. If you ever hold a genuine Rolex in your hand, the quality is obvious. Once you have held the real deal, a fake is fairly easy to discern. __________________

9 May 2014, 08:54 AM	#9
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	someone got ripped.... __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

6 May 2014, 07:23 AM	#3
francis "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: a few places Watch: Datejust Posts: 796	Good god....

6 May 2014, 10:05 AM	#6
socalwatchcollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: John Location: newport beach Watch: Pateks Plural Posts: 1,620	What the heck are those things?

6 May 2014, 10:17 AM	#7
Brezo "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40	Sorry. No good.

9 May 2014, 10:02 PM	#10
Cc1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Christopher Location: Georgia, USA Watch: ing the Sea... Posts: 6,713	Barely even watches... __________________ "I wish to have no Connection with any Ship that does not Sail fast for I intend to go in harm's way." Captain John Paul Jones, 16 November 1778 "*Curmudgeons* " Favorites: 1665 SD, Sub Date, DSSD, Exp II, Sub LV, GMTIIc

11 May 2014, 02:39 AM	#11
NathanHendrickson "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Muskogee, OK Posts: 74	That "Rolex water resist" is probably the second worst fake I've ever seen, number 1 being a "Daytona" with a Godzilla band somewhere on this forum.

11 May 2014, 05:01 PM	#12
photo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: SC Posts: 194	Good Grief.. .these don't even require our experts! What's the website address? Please feel free to share ;)

5 June 2014, 01:37 AM	#13
jus256 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: United States Posts: 5	This is the most recent addition to this auction. I won't even post the pictures of the women's watch. The way this auction works is you can pre-bid prior to the actual auction date. The current high bid is visible and is binding. The current bid for this watch is $1,050.

5 June 2014, 02:49 AM	#14
jus256 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: United States Posts: 5	This is the most recent addition to this auction. They have pics of a women’s watch that I won’t even bother posting. This men’s watch is already up to $1,050 in the pre-bidding. When the actual auction starts, they will start at whatever price the pre-bidding is currently at. This one is already higher than the watch in my first post.

14 November 2014, 10:00 AM	#15
jus256 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: United States Posts: 5	This is a different auction than what I posted above. I find this to be absolutely amazing. http://auction.repocast.com/details.cfm?ID=1922497

14 November 2014, 10:49 AM	#16
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	Both watches in the link are horrible fakes __________________ watches many

14 November 2014, 01:05 PM	#17
rolex_DateJust 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Sergio Location: Miami, FL Watch: Yes please! Posts: 1,707	You Mentioned in your first post that you wish you would've known about this forum a week ago but yet you signed up in May?

14 November 2014, 02:57 PM	#19
Laszlo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Watch: Date & No Date Posts: 10,857	I don't know what to say. Speechless. __________________ "You might as well question why we breathe. If we stop breathing, we'll die. If we stop fighting our enemies, the world will die." Paul Henreid as Victor Laszlo in Casablanca

15 November 2014, 08:03 AM	#21
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	I just threw up in my mouth. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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