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Old 22 January 2006, 06:01 AM   #1
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Only read this if you like GMTs

Only if you like no LOVE GMTs will you appreciate this one. A recent addition for me and one of those "must haves" on my list, the GMT-Master matte dial (Ref. 16750) circa 1980.

The significance of the 16750 is that it is a true transitional sport model. Reason being, it has all of the vintage features of a classic Rolex while adding a few enhancement from the Rolex R&D workshop to help modernize the aging GMT.

What makes it vintage:
Acrylic crystal
matte dial w/tritium hands/markers
Fixed 24hr hand
Smooth turn bi-directional bezel (no 120 clicks)
Bracelet w/o flip-lock style clasp

What makes it modern:
Fast beat movement cal 3075 (28,800 vph)
Quick-set date

What makes it transitional:
The reason the 16750 is considered "transitional" is because Rolex produced them as an evolutionary step closer to the modern GMT II (Ref. 16710). The major improvement over it's predecessor, the 1675 (cal. 1565/1575), was a new fast beat movement (cal. 3075) which increased vibrations per hour from 19,800 to an incredible 28,800. It is my belief that the fast beat 30xx series was a move by Rolex to "up" it's game and accuracy to compete with the increasing popularity/accuracy of Quartz watches.

The 16750 was only produced for ~5-6 years (80-85) and the matte dial was only available for about 2-3 of those years. It was ultimately replaced in the late 80's by another less known transitional GMT (Ref. 16700); the first GMT equiped with a sapphire crystal. Rolex up the anny again by giving the 16700 an upgraded movement (cal. 3175) and a dressier appearency (w/g hands/hour surrounds). The 16750 and 16700 were the last of the GMT-Masters and almost mirror the modern GMT-Master II (16710).

Hope you guys enjoy...









16710 Left
16750 Right

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Old 22 January 2006, 06:36 AM   #2
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Wow,beautifull watch Clifton.It sure is in great condition.

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Old 22 January 2006, 06:42 AM   #3
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Awsome watch clifton!!!!!!I love the vintage gmt!!
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Old 22 January 2006, 07:55 AM   #4
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Nice Watch!!!

Beautiful.
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Old 22 January 2006, 08:00 AM   #5
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Congratulations, Clifton. That is a beauty. I'm not ordinarily a fan of vintages (as I've said elsewhere), I could make an exception for that one. Wear it well and enjoy it.
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Old 22 January 2006, 08:31 AM   #6
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Personally I hate GMTs, they are horrible horrible watches that keep poor time, are poorly finished and way overpriced. But unfortunately I was drawn in by their clever marketing (I have yet to see more than 1 Rolex Ad a month )



Great pics and great info. thanks!
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That's a beauty Clifton. Wear it in good health. Nice pics too
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Old 22 January 2006, 11:06 AM   #8
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Supurb example of THE vintage GMT!
Nice score Clifton!!
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Old 22 January 2006, 11:29 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Clifton
Only if you like no LOVE GMTs will you appreciate this one. A recent addition for me and one of those "must haves" on my list, the GMT-Master matte dial (Ref. 16750) circa 1980.

The significance of the 16750 is that it is a true transitional sport model. Reason being, it has all of the vintage features of a classic Rolex while adding a few enhancement from the Rolex R&D workshop to help modernize the aging GMT.

What makes it vintage:
Acrylic crystal
matte dial w/tritium hands/markers
Fixed 24hr hand
Smooth turn unidirectional bezel (no 120 clicks)
Bracelet w/o flip-lock style clasp

What makes it modern:
Fast beat movement cal 3075 (28,800 vph)
Quick-set date

What makes it transitional:
The reason the 16750 is considered "transitional" is because Rolex produced them as an evolutionary step closer to the modern GMT II (Ref. 16710). The major improvement over it's predecessor, the 1675 (cal. 1565/1575), was a new fast beat movement (cal. 3075) which increased vibrations per hour from 19,800 to an incredible 28,800. It is my belief that the fast beat 30xx series was a move by Rolex to "up" it's game and accuracy to compete with the increasing popularity/accuracy of Quartz watches.

The 16750 was only produced for ~5-6 years (80-85) and the matte dial was only available for about 2-3 of those years. It was ultimately replaced in the late 80's by another less known transitional GMT (Ref. 16700); the first GMT equiped with a sapphire crystal. Rolex up the anny again by giving the 16700 an upgraded movement (cal. 3175) and a dressier appearency (w/g hands/hour surrounds). The 16750 and 16700 were the last of the GMT-Masters and almost mirror the modern GMT-Master II (16710).

Hope you guys enjoy...









16710 Left
16750 Right
It is sort of like the Sub 168000, matte dial, saphire crystal. This is the prior one, 1675 and the later one 16710. =) maverick



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Old 22 January 2006, 12:26 PM   #10
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Beautiful piece, Clifton....that Pepsi bezel gives it the final stamp of originality.
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Old 22 January 2006, 02:29 PM   #11
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Nice photo's, nice timepieces, nice background shots.
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Old 22 January 2006, 03:05 PM   #12
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Beautiful watch Clifton. I never really got into the vintage stuff, but seeing one like that is making me change my mind.
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Old 23 January 2006, 12:57 AM   #13
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Mav you too have great pictures or your new and old ;o)
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Great vintage GMT and pictures, but not my favourite insert
prefer black first, then black red..
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Old 23 January 2006, 11:01 AM   #15
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Thanks guys, appreciate the kind words and responses.

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