Rolex Oyster Perpetual Explorer: help me

[evgasr]

Hello folks!!!
I found this watch locally but can't figure out if it's a real Rolex or replica.
The condition of it seems too bad but it can be refurbished.
Someone please confirm its authenticity .

https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/17249836292/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/16629115344/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/17249840392/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/17065369749/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/17251033471/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/17065371689/

Thanks

[crowncollection]

Your watch is fake sorry


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[evgasr]

Are you sure ? How did you point out ?
Since I'm getting it for a good price ( 2400$ )
Any clue ?
The Rolex laser cuttings are visible at angle and it seems like real laser.
This watch is similar to the one I'm checking:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-214270...item5d54f617e0

[Andad]

Similar, but one is a Rolex.

$2400?

[evgasr]

What makes its strong to say it's a fake .
Yes the price he quoted was 2400$ .

[hanybad]

Originally Posted by evgasr

Are you sure ? How did you point out ?
Since I'm getting it for a good price ( 2400$ )
Any clue ?
The Rolex laser cuttings are visible at angle and it seems like real laser.
This watch is similar to the one I'm checking:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rolex-214270...item5d54f617e0

Not even close, it's a total POS don't even touch it

[Al1969]

While not an expert, I can tell this watch it's a fake. Just the selling price alone indicates it's not a real Rolex.

[evgasr]

Thanks guys for confirming it.

It's kinda too much to ask , but though of asking since you guys are pro in this field.

Lol : asking about Breitling in Rolex forums .

It's a Breitling chronomat ,
Pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/17251956485/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/16629478874/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/16631738413/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131961...5/17064178388/

What do you think about this^^^^

[evgasr]

He said the reason he sells it for cheap is: it needs a service to be done , because the seconds hand gets stuck also adjustments to be done in the movement.

[Old Expat Beast]

IS it the same seller as the "Explorer"?

[evgasr]

No he is a different person .

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by evgasr

No he is a different person .

Ok, well I don't know enough about Breitling to comment, but if there was ever a book published about fake Rolex, then that Explorer would be on the front cover.

[V72]

Breiling is ok, but looks like the No's on the caseback have been done with a " Dremel" .

[evgasr]

Do you know how much it's worth ?

[evgasr]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Ok, well I don't know enough about Breitling to comment, but if there was ever a book published about fake Rolex, then that Explorer would be on the front cover.

Lol

[rozyd]

Comparing it to my breitling, that one is fake as well.

[mjm800]

Originally Posted by evgasr

do you know how much it's worth ?

$0.00

[evgasr]

Originally Posted by rozyd

Comparing it to my breitling, that one is fake as well.

As soon as I posted it here , I went ahead and made a thread on a breitling forum and they confirmed it was real/legit ?
Why do you say it's fake?

[cajunron]

Originally Posted by evgasr

As soon as I posted it here , I went ahead and made a thread on a breitling forum and they confirmed it was real/legit ?
Why do you say it's fake?

Look at a real one and then look at the fake one and see for yourself.

[rozyd]

Originally Posted by evgasr

As soon as I posted it here , I went ahead and made a thread on a breitling forum and they confirmed it was real/legit ?
Why do you say it's fake?

Where to start? Hmm... take a good look at that bezel. Also the alternating gold and non-gold tabs should be a good indicator. And that movement....

Google breitling chronomat and take a good look and compare.

[V72]

gold rider tabs replaced with stainles , looks ok to me, apart from dodgy engraving on the caseback.

[rozyd]

Why would someone replace the gold tabs with stainless?

[breitlings]

honestly I don't know if that breitling is real but Roff is an expert and it should be because they didn't make many fakes of that model but on another hand; there are definite issues including the caseback and bezel. Some of the bezel screws do not look original either which makes me wonder about what is inside the watch. It won't be serviced by breitling looking like that so it has been touched by someone not using breitling parts.

I'd look for other chronomats. A really nice chronomat with matching two tone pilot bracelet should be around 2.5k USD. A chronomat in that condition without a pilot bracelet would be at most $1000.

look for and buy a different chronomat.