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Old 10 September 2015, 10:37 AM   #1
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Icon5 Unusual caseback removal

Unusual to me anyway! Can anyone tell me what type of tool would be required to remove this 1940s Canadian-made Pioneer (I think) caseback please?

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Old 10 September 2015, 12:11 PM   #2
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An adjustable three point opener, preferably one with interchangeable heads (to switch to the flat head pins), should do the trick Adam...
Or, even though I've never tried one, those friction type squeeze balls you see on EBay may do the trick?!?!
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Old 10 September 2015, 01:09 PM   #3
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Thanks Rob. I might give one of the balls a go, then I could use it on other watches, too.
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Old 10 September 2015, 05:58 PM   #4
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Would soft jawed pliers work for this Adam?
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Old 10 September 2015, 07:31 PM   #5
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Would soft jawed pliers work for this Adam?
No idea!

I'm still in tne process of acquiring it.
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Old 10 September 2015, 07:44 PM   #6
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I had the same problem with a similar watch case.

I heated the face of a 50mm x 50mm x 8mm thick square of PVC with a hot gun, pressed it on to the caseback and let it cool.

It took on the shape.

Then unscrewed the back.
It was an old watch and it was TIGHT.

But I have these items at my factory.

IMO Rob a 3 point case back remover would slip on that shallow angle unless you could wind it in really tight and that in itself would be difficult.
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Old 10 September 2015, 08:34 PM   #7
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I have a pair of 2 inch soft jawed pliers (channel locks clone) that work well on tight plastic components without marring the surface. This picture off Google is similar.
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Old 10 September 2015, 09:21 PM   #8
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Thanks for the suggestion
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Old 10 September 2015, 09:29 PM   #9
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I had the same problem with a similar watch case.

I heated the face of a 50mm x 50mm x 8mm thick square of PVC with a hot gun, pressed it on to the caseback and let it cool.

It took on the shape.

Then unscrewed the back.
It was an old watch and it was TIGHT.

But I have these items at my factory.

IMO Rob a 3 point case back remover would slip on that shallow angle unless you could wind it in really tight and that in itself would be difficult.
Great idea

As the PVC cools and shrinks it takes the shape.
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Old 10 September 2015, 09:45 PM   #10
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Thanks Rob. I might give one of the balls a go, then I could use it on other watches, too.
Since getting a ball, I've hardly had to use my case back wrench. Only when the case is really tight.

But if you don't have a ball handy, you could try balling up some duct tape with the sticky side out. I saw a guy do that at an NWACC watch mart. Everyone laughed until they saw it work.
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Old 11 September 2015, 02:07 AM   #11
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Since getting a ball, I've hardly had to use my case back wrench.
+1

It never ceases to amaze me on how much torque they can safely apply. Even better, they are about $5.00 on eBay, including shipping!

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Old 11 September 2015, 05:26 AM   #12
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That caseback screams for slip when used any kind of grip opener.

1) Wipe caseback clean
2) take a hex nut and superglue it in caseback
3) let set.
4) open.

Only downfall in this technique is possibility of scratching the caseback with the wrench if not careful. I just realized the hex nut with collar would be superb in this method. Adds contact and protection.
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Old 11 September 2015, 10:04 AM   #13
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Thanks for all the input guys. Was going for this but got outbid at 200 pounds.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/331647097106...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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Old 11 September 2015, 05:41 PM   #14
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That caseback screams for slip when used any kind of grip opener.

1) Wipe caseback clean
2) take a hex nut and superglue it in caseback
3) let set.
4) open.

Only downfall in this technique is possibility of scratching the caseback with the wrench if not careful. I just realized the hex nut with collar would be superb in this method. Adds contact and protection.
I would agree, with the wear on that case superglue a nut on and use a wrench. When done just use acetone to dissolve the glue. No chance of marking the back.

That's if the rubber ball or Bergeon wooden stick with rubber end dont work.
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Old 13 September 2015, 04:38 AM   #15
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you could try balling up some duct tape with the sticky side out. I saw a guy do that at an NWACC watch mart. Everyone laughed until they saw it work.
this works amazingly well.
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Go with the sticky ball first. If that doesn't work then try the spanner.

These used stamped sheet metal "wrenches" that caught all the flats. These came in many flavors and they usually have an odd number of flats so a normal parallel jaw plied won't work without rounding the corners.
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Old 13 September 2015, 06:58 AM   #17
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+1 3point that is adjustable


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