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JJ Irani · 12 February 2006, 06:35 PM

Hi guys,

Personally, I don't have a problem with the Oyster bracelets. The watch just comes out of the box and bang on my wrist....that's it, no adjustments whatsoever.

But, let's take it from another perspective. Take, for example, bracelets of other high-end companies like Omega, Breitling, etc. which always provide an extra large bracelet. I usually have to take off at least 2 links off Omega bracelets and one off the Breitling one.

Which means a guy with a very large wrist...say 8 ~ 8½" would have no problems with the Omega or Breitling bracelets, but with an Oyster bracelet he would actually have to fork out around $40 for an additional link!!

Now you might argue that when a person is plonking down over 4 grand for a watch, what's an extra 40 bucks or so? It's the principle of the matter. Why can't Rolex provide slightly larger Oyster bracelets so that they fit most large wrists?

Just a thread to start up a discussion...not really all that important.

JJ

C.J. · 12 February 2006, 06:41 PM

Thats makes alot of sense, JJ. We can't even get a catalog or sanppy calendar like you got here in the States

. It just seems like Rolex knows that whatever they do, or don't do for the most part, their watches are going to sell.

It's our fault

We should boycott them

. Everyone, send me your watches. I'll dispose of them for you and we'll all go out and buy nice Timex's

Goodwatch · 12 February 2006, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Hi guys,

Personally, I don't have a problem with the Oyster bracelets. The watch just comes out of the box and bang on my wrist....that's it, no adjustments whatsoever.

But, let's take it from another perspective. Take, for example, bracelets of other high-end companies like Omega, Breitling, etc. which always provide an extra large bracelet. I usually have to take off at least 2 links off Omega bracelets and one off the Breitling one.

Which means a guy with a very large wrist...say 8 ~ 8½" would have no problems with the Omega or Breitling bracelets, but with an Oyster bracelet he would actually have to fork out around $40 for an additional link!!

Now you might argue that when a person is plonking down over 4 grand for a watch, what's an extra 40 bucks or so? It's the principle of the matter. Why can't Rolex provide slightly larger Oyster bracelets so that they fit most large wrists?

Just a thread to start up a discussion...not really all that important.

JJ

At my AD they provide 1 extra link free of charge (and put it in the bracelet). On the other hand, almost no discount at all will be given.

Not to the likes of me that is. I bet you would get a discount because of the number of watches you buy!

padi56 · 12 February 2006, 08:20 PM

When I bought a SD in Singapore, I had to have a extra link, but was not charged for it.

mailman · 12 February 2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

When I bought a SD in Singapore, I had to have a extra link, but was not charged for it.

Same here when I bought my Sub. And I recieved a discount

JJ Irani · 13 February 2006, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Goodwatch

At my AD they provide 1 extra link free of charge (and put it in the bracelet). On the other hand, almost no discount at all will be given.

Not to the likes of me that is. I bet you would get a discount because of the number of watches you buy!

I don't need the extra link, but boy do I get some whopping discounts!!

Rackness · 13 February 2006, 03:58 AM

i received no extra link or discount when i bought my SD and i still wouldn't trade it for the world!

JJ Irani · 13 February 2006, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rackness

i received no extra link or discount when i bought my SD and i still wouldn't trade it for the world!

You only get the extra link if you NEED it....i.e. if you have a massive 8-8½" wrist like Paulie's or Padi's. However, you would have got this extra FLAT link marked "L" for LARGE with your SD.

...and this very useful screwdriver, of course!!

Rackness · 13 February 2006, 04:14 AM

you are correct sir! i actually had to take one link out anyway which i have in the box.

so what you are saying is that rolex discriminates against those without redwood arms by not giving everyone an extra link i smell lawsuit!

NoVaWatchLvr · 13 February 2006, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I don't need the extra link, but boy do I get some whopping discounts!!

That's probably because they are frightened of you.........

RobDad · 13 February 2006, 06:49 AM

I wear my 16610 as large as it will go, and it fits perfectly. But to be honest, I don't think of myself as being a very big guy, and it does surprise me how small the bracelet is - when I owned a Seamaster it had a couple of inches of bracelet removed!

Mind you, the Omega bracelet was a nightmare to get sized, needed a special tool etc, and used to pop open on me - everyone moans about the oyster bracelet it seems, but at least it works!!!

Goodwatch · 13 February 2006, 07:01 AM

Well, my moaning is about the perceived construction.

On my (2000) 16610 the clasp was still made of folded sheet metal and the inter links were still hollow. Although functional and sturdy, one expects a little more attention to detail on a $4000 plus watch. The greatest innovation was the SEL, a feat long present on other and cheaper watches. But every icon has some flaws and an icon the Sub is. Yes sir!

C.J. · 13 February 2006, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwatch

Well, my moaning is about the perceived construction.

On my (2000) 16610 the clasp was still made of folded sheet metal and the inter links were still hollow. Although functional and sturdy, one expects a little more attention to detail on a $4000 plus watch. The greatest innovation was the SEL, a feat long present on other and cheaper watches. But every icon has some flaws and an icon the Sub is. Yes sir!

You guys have to stop all this icon and ultimate Rolex talk in reference to the Sub

. I was teetering between the Sub and GMT when I got my watch. Now you're really, really, really making me want a Sub

kakalika · 13 February 2006, 07:14 AM

My AD gave me an extra link free of charge. I don't think I really needed it but the watch seemed a tad too tight on my wrist when the bracelet was adjusted all the way out. With the extra link added (making 5 1/2 on the 6 o clock side) I had to adjust the bracelet to make it smaller !! Go figure. At least I can say I have more metal in my bracelet. Hey if she (my AD) offered me an extra link free if I stopped looking at her cleavage, why not.

Rockrolex · 13 February 2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

You guys have to stop all this icon and ultimate Rolex talk in reference to the Sub

. I was teetering between the Sub and GMT when I got my watch. Now you're really, really, really making me want a Sub

Don't listen to those bozos, Craig. I mean, really. Consider the sources - some wooden shoe clogger and a sheep lover.

You've got the ultimate Rolex - don't ever forget that. You just need to get the correct bezel color to make it the perfect ultimate Rolex.

C.J. · 13 February 2006, 07:20 AM

[QUOTE=Rockrolex]Don't listen to those bozos, Craig. I mean, really. Consider the sources - some wooden shoe clogger and a sheep lover.

You've got the ultimate Rolex - don't ever forget that. You just need to get the correct bezel color to make it the perfect ultimate Rolex.

Ed, if you could just get the bottom half of that bezel red, you would see it in a whole new light

Goodwatch · 13 February 2006, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C.J.

You guys have to stop all this icon and ultimate Rolex talk in reference to the Sub

. I was teetering between the Sub and GMT when I got my watch. Now you're really, really, really making me want a Sub

Craig,

The GMT is an icon as well, in it’s own respect. It’s just what you want out of a watch. The fact that it’s a Rolex is an unbeatable plus. (Although I must confess that my mouth watered after seeing the movement of a 51 series Patek Philippe Calatrava. But try taking this watch for a swim). Agreed, the Sub’s design isn’t altogether original but in my view it’s the ultimate sports watch. Classic, dressy, elegant and tough at the same time. The GMT’s pepsi dial catches the eye a bit more, but hey, put on boat shoes, a pair of old shorts, a baseball cap and an Aloha shirt (courtesy of Daren) and you look like Magnum.

Rockrolex · 13 February 2006, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

Ed, if you could just get the bottom half of that bezel red, you would see it in a whole new light

No how, no way, Craig. Not gonna happen.

Goodwatch · 13 February 2006, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

No how, no way, Craig. Not gonna happen.

How dare you call me a bozo?!

It's Sir Bozo to you, tosser

Bozo, the Rolex Clown

NoVaWatchLvr · 13 February 2006, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwatch

Well, my moaning is about the perceived construction.

On my (2000) 16610 the clasp was still made of folded sheet metal and the inter links were still hollow. Although functional and sturdy, one expects a little more attention to detail on a $4000 plus watch. The greatest innovation was the SEL, a feat long present on other and cheaper watches. But every icon has some flaws and an icon the Sub is. Yes sir!

SEL's are overrated. I gurantee you a good old fashion 93150 bracelet will take more abuse than your arm could stand attached to it's shoulder socket.

Rackness · 13 February 2006, 02:25 PM

Quote:

You just need to get the correct bezel color to make it the perfect ultimate Rolex.

you do understand C.J. he means orange!

o and the ultimate rollie is a SD if you were wondering and yes you do NEED one!!

C.J. · 13 February 2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwatch

Craig,

The GMT is an icon as well, in it’s own respect. It’s just what you want out of a watch. The fact that it’s a Rolex is an unbeatable plus. (Although I must confess that my mouth watered after seeing the movement of a 51 series Patek Philippe Calatrava. But try taking this watch for a swim). Agreed, the Sub’s design isn’t altogether original but in my view it’s the ultimate sports watch. Classic, dressy, elegant and tough at the same time. The GMT’s pepsi dial catches the eye a bit more, but hey, put on boat shoes, a pair of old shorts, a baseball cap and an Aloha shirt (courtesy of Daren) and you look like Magnum.

You wouldn't happen to have a Ferrari I could borrow, would you?

I still really want the Sub but if I get one my wife promised that I would be dead long before I hit the floor.

and I'd take the Patek in a heartbeat

C.J. · 13 February 2006, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rackness

you do understand C.J. he means orange!

o and the ultimate rollie is a SD if you were wondering and yes you do NEED one!!

No, not in the GMT. I heard that Ed just got a PO in orange and he loves it.

C.J. · 13 February 2006, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockrolex

No how, no way, Craig. Not gonna happen.

Soooooo..............You're saying that you're thinking about it?

Rockrolex · 14 February 2006, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rackness

you do understand C.J. he means orange!

o and the ultimate rollie is a SD if you were wondering and yes you do NEED one!!

You, sir, are itching to be banned, aren't you?

Rackness · 14 February 2006, 12:23 AM

Goodwatch · 14 February 2006, 02:37 AM

Do it Ed, ban 'em all (not me)

JJ Irani · 14 February 2006, 03:37 AM

Hmmmm....this thread started out on the Oyster bracelet and look where it's finally landed up.

Wonder which tosser hijacked it and at which point??

Goodwatch · 14 February 2006, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NoVaWatchLvr

SEL's are overrated. I gurantee you a good old fashion 93150 bracelet will take more abuse than your arm could stand attached to it's shoulder socket.

The SEL prevents the telescopic pin to bend and thus come free of the holes in the lugs. But I don't know if this is a good thing if you catch the bracelet behind some object. There must be a breaking point otherwise it can become nasty. Whilst in the Army I saw a guy loose a finger when he jumped from the back of a truck because his ring got caught behind a metal strip. (Rings were prohibited). This was NOT a pretty sight

The SEL makes the bracelet complete from an aesthetic point of view, but that's my opinion.

JJ Irani · 14 February 2006, 04:01 AM

Thanks for getting us back on track, Frans. Mansor's informed me that the price of the SEL bracelet vs. the non-SEL bracelet is a considerable difference...like almost 1½ times more.

JJ

12 February 2006, 06:35 PM	#1
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Rolex Oyster bracelets - unfair to some!! Hi guys, Personally, I don't have a problem with the Oyster bracelets. The watch just comes out of the box and bang on my wrist....that's it, no adjustments whatsoever. But, let's take it from another perspective. Take, for example, bracelets of other high-end companies like Omega, Breitling, etc. which always provide an extra large bracelet. I usually have to take off at least 2 links off Omega bracelets and one off the Breitling one. Which means a guy with a very large wrist...say 8 ~ 8½" would have no problems with the Omega or Breitling bracelets, but with an Oyster bracelet he would actually have to fork out around $40 for an additional link!! Now you might argue that when a person is plonking down over 4 grand for a watch, what's an extra 40 bucks or so? It's the principle of the matter. Why can't Rolex provide slightly larger Oyster bracelets so that they fit most large wrists? Just a thread to start up a discussion...not really all that important. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

12 February 2006, 06:41 PM	#2
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Thats makes alot of sense, JJ. We can't even get a catalog or sanppy calendar like you got here in the States . It just seems like Rolex knows that whatever they do, or don't do for the most part, their watches are going to sell. It's our fault We should boycott them . Everyone, send me your watches. I'll dispose of them for you and we'll all go out and buy nice Timex's __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there Last edited by C.J.; 12 February 2006 at 06:43 PM..

12 February 2006, 08:20 PM	#4
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13 February 2006, 04:14 AM	#9
Rackness "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harford County MD Posts: 393	you are correct sir! i actually had to take one link out anyway which i have in the box. so what you are saying is that rolex discriminates against those without redwood arms by not giving everyone an extra link i smell lawsuit! Last edited by Rackness; 13 February 2006 at 04:14 AM..

13 February 2006, 07:01 AM	#12
Goodwatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: Frans ® Location: Rotterdam Watch: the sunrise... Posts: 10,230	Well, my moaning is about the perceived construction. On my (2000) 16610 the clasp was still made of folded sheet metal and the inter links were still hollow. Although functional and sturdy, one expects a little more attention to detail on a $4000 plus watch. The greatest innovation was the SEL, a feat long present on other and cheaper watches. But every icon has some flaws and an icon the Sub is. Yes sir! __________________ Member# 127

13 February 2006, 03:58 AM	#7
Rackness "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harford County MD Posts: 393	i received no extra link or discount when i bought my SD and i still wouldn't trade it for the world!

13 February 2006, 06:49 AM	#11
RobDad Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Real Name: Rob Dadd Location: London Posts: 134	I wear my 16610 as large as it will go, and it fits perfectly. But to be honest, I don't think of myself as being a very big guy, and it does surprise me how small the bracelet is - when I owned a Seamaster it had a couple of inches of bracelet removed! Mind you, the Omega bracelet was a nightmare to get sized, needed a special tool etc, and used to pop open on me - everyone moans about the oyster bracelet it seems, but at least it works!!!

13 February 2006, 07:14 AM	#14
kakalika "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Minnesota, USA Watch: SS Sub-Date Posts: 505	My AD gave me an extra link free of charge. I don't think I really needed it but the watch seemed a tad too tight on my wrist when the bracelet was adjusted all the way out. With the extra link added (making 5 1/2 on the 6 o clock side) I had to adjust the bracelet to make it smaller !! Go figure. At least I can say I have more metal in my bracelet. Hey if she (my AD) offered me an extra link free if I stopped looking at her cleavage, why not. __________________ I thought I was mistaken, but then I realized I was wrong.

13 February 2006, 07:20 AM	#16
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	[QUOTE=Rockrolex]Don't listen to those bozos, Craig. I mean, really. Consider the sources - some wooden shoe clogger and a sheep lover. You've got the ultimate Rolex - don't ever forget that. You just need to get the correct bezel color to make it the perfect ultimate Rolex. Ed, if you could just get the bottom half of that bezel red, you would see it in a whole new light __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there

14 February 2006, 12:23 AM	#26
Rackness "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harford County MD Posts: 393

14 February 2006, 02:37 AM	#27
Goodwatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: Frans ® Location: Rotterdam Watch: the sunrise... Posts: 10,230	Do it Ed, ban 'em all (not me) __________________ Member# 127

14 February 2006, 03:37 AM	#28
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Hmmmm....this thread started out on the Oyster bracelet and look where it's finally landed up. Wonder which tosser hijacked it and at which point?? __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

14 February 2006, 04:01 AM	#30
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Thanks for getting us back on track, Frans. Mansor's informed me that the price of the SEL bracelet vs. the non-SEL bracelet is a considerable difference...like almost 1½ times more. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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