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koshiru · 5 December 2015, 10:36 AM

Hi guys,

Just like to seek your opinion on getting a full gold GMT from a dealer which is unworn and purchased in April 2015 versus getting brand new from AD.

The cost savings from the dealer is about USD$1400. For this amount would you go for the dealer which I would to have it authenticated or just save the hassle and go for the AD one?

Thanks!

DeeTee · 5 December 2015, 10:42 AM

Ehhh that's tough one.
Beat up the grey dealer a bit more and threaten to walk out and see if you can get $2000-$2500 off.

versatile1 · 5 December 2015, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dt32886@gmail.com

Ehhh that's tough one.
Beat up the grey dealer a bit more and threaten to walk out and see if you can get $2000-$2500 off.

This!
+ another $1000 off

Ruud Van Driver · 5 December 2015, 06:13 PM

From my AD, I would get between 15 and 20% off on a solid gold piece. $1,400, while not a trivial amount, is not worth the hassle. Shop around as many ADs as you can within an hour of where you live or work; go see them, sit down, try a few pieces on and see who can work out the best deal. Let them know you're buying 'today' for the right deal and see what happens. Good luck

kirksingleton · 6 December 2015, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruud van driver

from my ad, i would get between 15 and 20% off on a solid gold piece. $1,400, while not a trivial amount, is not worth the hassle. Shop around as many ads as you can within an hour of where you live or work; go see them, sit down, try a few pieces on and see who can work out the best deal. Let them know you're buying 'today' for the right deal and see what happens. Good luck

+1

SLS · 5 December 2015, 10:54 AM

What is that 5% off? I am guessing you could get that from an AD. You should be able to do much better than that from a GMD IMO. Good luck

koshiru · 5 December 2015, 10:54 AM

I think the most I could squeeze out from the dealer would be another $200 or so max

koshiru · 5 December 2015, 10:56 AM

The cost savings is after the max discount from AD

THC · 5 December 2015, 10:57 AM

How do you know it is "unworn"?...please Buy the seller... Check them out fully... This watch is expensive..

dave_dave · 5 December 2015, 11:06 AM

I would pay the additional 1.4k for a hassel free transaction.

PerioBear · 5 December 2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dave_dave

I would pay the additional 1.4k for a hassel free transaction.

This!

LuminousMaximus · 5 December 2015, 01:07 PM

the New stickers alone are worth $1400...

Rameez-Q · 5 December 2015, 11:13 AM

Buy from AD & ask them to throw in some rolex freebies!!

A nice parker, try & blag a watch winder etc or first free service

tkerrmd · 5 December 2015, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koshiru

Hi guys,

Just like to seek your opinion on getting a full gold GMT from a dealer which is unworn and purchased in April 2015 versus getting brand new from AD.

The cost savings from the dealer is about USD$1400. For this amount would you go for the dealer which I would to have it authenticated or just save the hassle and go for the AD one?

Thanks!

For that difference I would get it from the AD

lzz73 · 5 December 2015, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

For that difference I would get it from the AD

Even though I've never bought that expensive of a piece, I couldn't agree more.

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AK797 · 5 December 2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

For that difference I would get it from the AD

Yes, presuming you are getting around 15-20% off and these are not off retail prices, then I'd go with AD unless difference was 2K.

psv · 11 January 2016, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tkerrmd

for that difference i would get it from the ad

+1

Rogdogg · 5 December 2015, 11:37 AM

If buying such an expensive watch at 20+k I think I would pay the additional 1,400 for absolute peace of mind. Also you will get a new 5yr warranty. If the used watch has a date of April won't that still have the old 2 year with the third additional added?

JustABreathAway · 5 December 2015, 11:41 AM

Oh my GOSH I would buy a brand new watch from an AD for that trivial sum. Peace of mind, warranty, and service after the sale are worth VASTLY more than that amount of money, if you can truly afford the watch.

Just my opinion, but there you have it.

silverbullet818 · 5 December 2015, 11:55 AM

Tough one....

Money is still money and savings is savings.

BUT if there is an issue, who will help you best should be the factor that helps you decide what to do.

kirksingleton · 5 December 2015, 01:40 PM

Ad

viper · 5 December 2015, 01:44 PM

AD for sure

ddaly12 · 5 December 2015, 01:51 PM

I would either look for a better deal in the "grey" market or go straight AD. Not worth it for $1k for a pm rolex. $5k, maybe.

rmlovett1 · 11 January 2016, 02:03 AM

congrats!!

Danny83 · 5 December 2015, 02:02 PM

$1,400 is worth having a relationship with the AD and a diet Coke

returntorolex · 5 December 2015, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny83

$1,400 is worth having a relationship with the AD and a diet Coke

Extra warranty and at our AD Champagne

Lordofrolex · 5 December 2015, 02:15 PM

Go with the dealer if it's real.

Eric Chan · 5 December 2015, 03:12 PM

AD for me. The difference in price is not enough for me.

gregdolley · 5 December 2015, 03:18 PM

For just a $1400 difference - definitely the AD.

koshiru · 5 December 2015, 03:30 PM

I forgot about the new 5 year warranty! In that case I am pretty sure the AD would be a better deal but seriously Rolex watches are so hardy I don't think it would need a visit in the 5 years if worn and kept properly.

View Poll Results: Buy GMT YG unworn from dealer (cost savings of $1400) or Brand new from AD
Unworn from dealer dated April 2015	88	38.94%
Brand new from AD	138	61.06%
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5 December 2015, 10:36 AM	#1
koshiru "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rolex Land Posts: 119	Buying GMT Solid Gold Unworn in 2nd Hand Shop versus Brand New in AD Hi guys, Just like to seek your opinion on getting a full gold GMT from a dealer which is unworn and purchased in April 2015 versus getting brand new from AD. The cost savings from the dealer is about USD$1400. For this amount would you go for the dealer which I would to have it authenticated or just save the hassle and go for the AD one? Thanks! __________________ ******************************************* 116231 Roman Sun Dial \| 116613 Blue Submariner 17000 OysterQuartz White Roman \|17013 OysterQuartz Blue Dial 16710 GMT II Pepsi \| 116718 GMT II Green 126711CHNR GMT II Rootbeer \| 116523 Daytona Racing Blue

5 December 2015, 06:13 PM	#4
Ruud Van Driver "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Chopped Liver Location: S. Wales Valleys Watch: Mickey Mouse Posts: 9,924	From my AD, I would get between 15 and 20% off on a solid gold piece. $1,400, while not a trivial amount, is not worth the hassle. Shop around as many ADs as you can within an hour of where you live or work; go see them, sit down, try a few pieces on and see who can work out the best deal. Let them know you're buying 'today' for the right deal and see what happens. Good luck __________________ 116520 Black, 116610 LVc, 116660 D-Blue, 116610 LNc, 116622 Blue, PAM359, PAM689, PAM737 *"Why should you allow an AD to shake you down, just so you can buy a watch" - Grady Philpott* Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

5 December 2015, 10:54 AM	#6
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,399	What is that 5% off? I am guessing you could get that from an AD. You should be able to do much better than that from a GMD IMO. Good luck __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

5 December 2015, 10:54 AM	#7
koshiru "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rolex Land Posts: 119	I think the most I could squeeze out from the dealer would be another $200 or so max __________________ ******************************************* 116231 Roman Sun Dial \| 116613 Blue Submariner 17000 OysterQuartz White Roman \|17013 OysterQuartz Blue Dial 16710 GMT II Pepsi \| 116718 GMT II Green 126711CHNR GMT II Rootbeer \| 116523 Daytona Racing Blue

5 December 2015, 10:42 AM	#2
DeeTee "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Netflix Posts: 3,977	Ehhh that's tough one. Beat up the grey dealer a bit more and threaten to walk out and see if you can get $2000-$2500 off.

5 December 2015, 10:56 AM	#8
koshiru "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rolex Land Posts: 119	The cost savings is after the max discount from AD __________________ ******************************************* 116231 Roman Sun Dial \| 116613 Blue Submariner 17000 OysterQuartz White Roman \|17013 OysterQuartz Blue Dial 16710 GMT II Pepsi \| 116718 GMT II Green 126711CHNR GMT II Rootbeer \| 116523 Daytona Racing Blue

5 December 2015, 10:57 AM	#9
THC 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 16610M Posts: 10,509	How do you know it is "unworn"?...please Buy the seller... Check them out fully... This watch is expensive..

5 December 2015, 11:06 AM	#10
dave_dave "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 441	I would pay the additional 1.4k for a hassel free transaction.

5 December 2015, 01:07 PM	#12
LuminousMaximus "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Watch: me hit Huge Lotto Posts: 6,502	the New stickers alone are worth $1400... __________________ “Every man Dies... Not Every Man, Really Lives.” – William Wallace - To really lives means to live your life to the fullest. It means to chase your dreams, take risks, and to love life. Since everyone’s fate is the same, why not live the best life that you possibly can? In order to really live,you must seize the day. Live each day as if it's your last and overall just do it! Today is a gift, that’s why it’s called the present...

5 December 2015, 11:13 AM	#13
Rameez-Q "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: UK Watch: Rolex Day Date, Posts: 666	Buy from AD & ask them to throw in some rolex freebies!! A nice parker, try & blag a watch winder etc or first free service __________________ Vintage, Vintage & more vintage!

5 December 2015, 11:37 AM	#18
Rogdogg 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Bangkok Posts: 6,122	If buying such an expensive watch at 20+k I think I would pay the additional 1,400 for absolute peace of mind. Also you will get a new 5yr warranty. If the used watch has a date of April won't that still have the old 2 year with the third additional added? __________________ Nil Satis Nisi Optimum

5 December 2015, 11:41 AM	#19
JustABreathAway "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Watch: The Reference Posts: 1,743	Oh my GOSH I would buy a brand new watch from an AD for that trivial sum. Peace of mind, warranty, and service after the sale are worth VASTLY more than that amount of money, if you can truly afford the watch. Just my opinion, but there you have it. __________________ http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=217483

5 December 2015, 11:55 AM	#20
silverbullet818 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 839	Tough one.... Money is still money and savings is savings. BUT if there is an issue, who will help you best should be the factor that helps you decide what to do.

5 December 2015, 01:40 PM	#21
kirksingleton "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,759	Ad

5 December 2015, 01:44 PM	#22
viper "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 943	AD for sure __________________ 16610LV 16200 116600 116500

5 December 2015, 01:51 PM	#23
ddaly12 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cranford Posts: 704	I would either look for a better deal in the "grey" market or go straight AD. Not worth it for $1k for a pm rolex. $5k, maybe.

11 January 2016, 02:03 AM	#24
rmlovett1 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Richard Location: GA Watch: YTBD Posts: 22,641	congrats!!

5 December 2015, 02:02 PM	#25
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,182	$1,400 is worth having a relationship with the AD and a diet Coke

5 December 2015, 02:15 PM	#27
Lordofrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Brandon Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: Yes Please! Posts: 6,690	Go with the dealer if it's real. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Panerai PAM 359 Audemars Piguet RO 15300OR Follow me on Instagram: @b_jakobovich

5 December 2015, 03:12 PM	#28
Eric Chan "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Eric Chan Location: Vancouver, BC CAN Watch: Day-Date 118238 Posts: 8,798	AD for me. The difference in price is not enough for me.

5 December 2015, 03:18 PM	#29
gregdolley Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Greg Dolley Location: Los Angeles Watch: Rose Gold Daytona Posts: 1,283	For just a $1400 difference - definitely the AD.

5 December 2015, 03:30 PM	#30
koshiru "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rolex Land Posts: 119	I forgot about the new 5 year warranty! In that case I am pretty sure the AD would be a better deal but seriously Rolex watches are so hardy I don't think it would need a visit in the 5 years if worn and kept properly. __________________ ******************************************* 116231 Roman Sun Dial \| 116613 Blue Submariner 17000 OysterQuartz White Roman \|17013 OysterQuartz Blue Dial 16710 GMT II Pepsi \| 116718 GMT II Green 126711CHNR GMT II Rootbeer \| 116523 Daytona Racing Blue

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