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Danny83 · 1 August 2016, 02:31 AM

Trf can you give me your input on these two watches? The guy that has them wants 400 each. Watch heads only I was wondering if I should get them thanks. Sorry for sideway pics

offrdmania · 1 August 2016, 02:44 AM

A red ranger never existed so that should tell you something. Take a pic of the marks between the lugs and we can tell you if it is a real case or not. That big rose Tudor is faked quite often too. Sometimes a real case is used but the dial and hands are fake.
Here is a pic comparing a real and fake case of a 34mm Tudor. The fake case is on the right. Notice the style, spacing and depth of the engraving. A lot of times the fake case won't have any bracelet rub marks between the lugs. There should be rub marks for an almost 60 year old watch case.

Danny83 · 1 August 2016, 03:25 AM

So when I get back to the guy that had them he was selling them for 700....thanks for the input

Danny83 · 1 August 2016, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offrdmania

A red ranger never existed so that should tell you something. Take a pic of the marks between the lugs and we can tell you if it is a real case or not. That big rose Tudor is faked quite often too. Sometimes a real case is used but the dial and hands are fake.
Here is a pic comparing a real and fake case of a 34mm Tudor. The fake case is on the right. Notice the style, spacing and depth of the engraving. A lot of times the fake case won't have any bracelet rub marks between the lugs. There should be rub marks for an almost 60 year old watch case.

I guess i messed up because they were authentic

offrdmania · 1 August 2016, 04:30 AM

Almost authentic. The dials and hands on both look fake. Even if the case and movement are authentic they are only worth at most $300-400 as just heads.

Here is a pic of a fake big rose

linesiders · 1 August 2016, 04:36 AM

From the poor photos I think they are not only NOT simply redialed to Red Tudors but all fake

GLADIATOR · 1 August 2016, 04:59 AM

In my opinion both reworked dials (at least)
The 7962 (Big Rose) should be marked T SWISS T (for tritium), and I think just shock resisting.

The "ranger" dial is all wrong, reworked and relumed
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1 August 2016, 02:44 AM	#2
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,866	Saw these Tudors for sale at my local fleamarket A red ranger never existed so that should tell you something. Take a pic of the marks between the lugs and we can tell you if it is a real case or not. That big rose Tudor is faked quite often too. Sometimes a real case is used but the dial and hands are fake. Here is a pic comparing a real and fake case of a 34mm Tudor. The fake case is on the right. Notice the style, spacing and depth of the engraving. A lot of times the fake case won't have any bracelet rub marks between the lugs. There should be rub marks for an almost 60 year old watch case. __________________ TRF Member 11738

1 August 2016, 04:30 AM	#5
offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,866	Almost authentic. The dials and hands on both look fake. Even if the case and movement are authentic they are only worth at most $300-400 as just heads. Here is a pic of a fake big rose __________________ TRF Member 11738

1 August 2016, 04:36 AM	#6
linesiders 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,435	From the poor photos I think they are not only NOT simply redialed to Red Tudors but all fake __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

1 August 2016, 04:59 AM	#7
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	In my opinion both reworked dials (at least) The 7962 (Big Rose) should be marked T SWISS T (for tritium), and I think just shock resisting. The "ranger" dial is all wrong, reworked and relumed a __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

1 August 2016, 03:25 AM	#3
Danny83 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Real Name: Danny Location: Bay Area CA Watch: Yellow Gold Posts: 20,184	So when I get back to the guy that had them he was selling them for 700....thanks for the input

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