How does "rude" increase Forum profits?

[delldeaton]

Maybe this is too narrow a question for most here to weigh in on. Then again, opinions are by all means welcome as well.

Given the amount of outright rude Posting that goes on not just by Joe-Average participant, but also Moderators on (other) Forums, I've got to believe it's not only "tolorated," but somehow serving on the Forums' interests.

But how?

Do they think of folks who Post as akin to Jerry Springer guests, designed to attract an audience of whomever, however - just so long as their hits and Googles and whatnots climb? To generate more revenue via banner ads?

Is that "all there is" for most of what's out there?

[HYDROMAROC]

Some people feel empowered to post what ever they choose... While living in their parents basement sitting in their underware...

Must be a lack of human interaction that makes people fell "tough" online...

Too bad the last woman some of these guys have kissed was their mom...

Just my

[delldeaton]

Originally Posted by HYDROMAROC

Some people feel empowered to post what ever they choose... While living in their parents basement sitting in their underware...

Must be a lack of human interaction that makes people fell "tough" online...

Too bad the last woman some of these guys have kissed was their mom...

Just my

Amen.

But still: Why would a Forum owner condone this? I mean, wouldn't it ultimately reflect poorly on their image?

[daveathall]

Normally find that the less than courteous posts are by arm chair Generals with a keyboard and a cup of coffee.

[mgm]

Originally Posted by delldeaton

Amen.

But still: Why would a Forum owner condone this? I mean, wouldn't it ultimately reflect poorly on their image?

I don't understand it, Dell. Really don't. I participate of forums in large part to have an oasis in the midst of strife, a place where I and others with similar interests can come together for enjoyment, not attitude.

[Uncle-AJ]

I suppose there has to be forums that cater for all walks of life otherwise the undesirables may infiltrate the decent forums. If I don't like the content of the posts then I stay clear and go somewhere that I feel is OK.

[sombunya]

I've been in many forums. Some extremely brusque, others less so.

I try to maintain the decorum that others in a specific forum do.

[jdc]

Nothing wrong with average Joe, I prefer posts that are down to earth. People choose forums they are comfortable with, I like TRF, which has a nice mixture of information and humour that is conducted in the right way.
If people want to go to other forums to get something different that is their call I am not here to judge others.

[C. Davidson]

Originally Posted by mgm

I don't understand it, Dell. Really don't. I participate of forums in large part to have an oasis in the midst of strife, a place where I and others with similar interests can come together for enjoyment, not attitude.

X2.

[Jimbits76]

Originally Posted by jdc

Nothing wrong with average Joe, I prefer posts that are down to earth. People choose forums they are comfortable with, I like TRF, which has a nice mixture of information and humour that is conducted in the right way.
If people want to go to other forums to get something different that is their call I am not here to judge others.

What about Average Jim?

J

[jdc]

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

What about Average Jim?

J

Joe and Jim now there is a partnership that would make me think again about TRF

[Jimbits76]

Originally Posted by jdc

Joe and Jim now there is a partnership that would make me think again about TRF

If anything we are below average.

J

[jdc]

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

If anything we are below average.

J

in the gutter looking at the stars

[Jimbits76]

Just to clarify what is the definition of rude....

Rude ignorant? "Shut yer yap Jimbits, you are an ugly idiot!"

or Rude Saucy? "Hey Jimbits, you've a nice bum!"

J

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

Just to clarify what is the definition of rude....

Rude ignorant? "Shut yer yap Jimbits, you are an ugly idiot!"

or Rude Saucy? "Hey Jimbits, you've a nice bum!"

J

Rude:

1. discourteous or impolite, esp. in a deliberate way: a rude reply. 2. without culture, learning, or refinement: rude, illiterate peasants. 3. rough in manners or behavior; unmannerly; uncouth.


Jim, I see nothing about bums in this definition. Just sayin'!

[Jimbits76]

Originally Posted by Carolina

Rude:

1. discourteous or impolite, esp. in a deliberate way: a rude reply. 2. without culture, learning, or refinement: rude, illiterate peasants. 3. rough in manners or behavior; unmannerly; uncouth.


Jim, I see nothing about bums in this definition. Just sayin'!

I think saucy means politely rude or impertinent....like a wolf whistle from a construction worker...or saying that somebody has a nice bum!

J

[Uncle-AJ]

I was going to make a very witty reply but you know who might accuse me of following her again........................so I wont.

[rpryan55]

Hmmm...not a single poster so far who is not also a 2008 Pledge Member. Perhaps that is a symptom of a lack of incivility among posters - their willingness to support the very place they post!

[Uncle-AJ]

Originally Posted by rpryan55

Hmmm...not a single poster so far who is not also a 2008 Pledge Member. Perhaps that is a symptom of a lack of incivility among posters - their willingness to support the very place they post!

You should look closer.

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

I was going to make a very witty reply but you know who might accuse me of following her again........................so I wont.

No worries, Adrian. I always love a good chuckle, and it's always fun to use the word "bum" in a sentence. Just ask my 6 yr old!

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

I think saucy means politely rude or impertinent....like a wolf whistle from a construction worker...or saying that somebody has a nice bum!

J

And of course, you're correct. I just enjoy giving you a difficult time!

[Gedanken]

Originally Posted by Carolina

it's always fun to use the word "bum" in a sentence. Just ask my 6 yr old!

Funny you should mention that, Caroline. I've always figured that offensive members of a forum are the sort that never grew out of the infantile thrill of typing rude things and seeing them come up on screen. That such words could go past their own computers and onto thousands of other computers through the Internet must have been a godsend for them.

The Internet, with forums and blogs in particular, is the ultimate in vanity press. It gives any armchair Rambo the medium through which they can tell everybody how they would have won Vietnam singlehandedly, or every wannabe a space in which they can present themselves as the Warren Buffet they fantasise about being.

Speaking from a couple of years of moderation experience here, I don't think it's so much a case of it being tolerated on forums as it is about mod teams not being up to the job. The amount of thought and insight that my fellow mods apply to running this forum is staggering when I think about it - what with the number of members we have on the forum these days, trying to work out a set of principles that would fairly cater to the range of the membership's wants and needs is a very tall order, and one that gets taller by the day. The amount of work that the team has put in to get to this point is well beyond reasonable, even if the mod roles were paid jobs. To be frank, I can sympathise with the mod teams that have thrown in the towel and either let things slide or enforced an excessively rigid rule structure that leaves little space for the exercise of judgement - it's just bloody hard work.

The good news is that once things get set up right, a good foundation makes things a lot easier. In the case of this forum, we have (by and large) a great foundation of members who know exactly why they turn up on the forum, and make the moderation job a lot easier by embodying the spirit of the forum and keeping things on track.

[rpryan55]

Originally Posted by Uncle-AJ

You should look closer.

You beat me to the post by a minute and a second. Of course, you could take this opportunity to make me correct.........

[Trurolexer]

Me member of 4 watches Forums, but I never feel so strong connection like in this Forum. This is my 2nd homey.

[Uncle-AJ]

Originally Posted by rpryan55

You beat me to the post by a minute and a second. Of course, you could take this opportunity to make me correct.........

I actually beat you by almost seven hours Dick but who's counting.

[Carolina]

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Funny you should mention that, Caroline. I've always figured that offensive members of a forum are the sort that never grew out of the infantile thrill of typing rude things and seeing them come up on screen. That such words could go past their own computers and onto thousands of other computers through the Internet must have been a godsend for them.

The Internet, with forums and blogs in particular, is the ultimate in vanity press. It gives any armchair Rambo the medium through which they can tell everybody how they would have won Vietnam singlehandedly, or every wannabe a space in which they can present themselves as the Warren Buffet they fantasise about being.

Speaking from a couple of years of moderation experience here, I don't think it's so much a case of it being tolerated on forums as it is about mod teams not being up to the job. The amount of thought and insight that my fellow mods apply to running this forum is staggering when I think about it - what with the number of members we have on the forum these days, trying to work out a set of principles that would fairly cater to the range of the membership's wants and needs is a very tall order, and one that gets taller by the day. The amount of work that the team has put in to get to this point is well beyond reasonable, even if the mod roles were paid jobs. To be frank, I can sympathise with the mod teams that have thrown in the towel and either let things slide or enforced an excessively rigid rule structure that leaves little space for the exercise of judgement - it's just bloody hard work.

The good news is that once things get set up right, a good foundation makes things a lot easier. In the case of this forum, we have (by and large) a great foundation of members who know exactly why they turn up on the forum, and make the moderation job a lot easier by embodying the spirit of the forum and keeping things on track.

James, nothing further to add, other than this is a very insightful post. I think a forum with the right combination of moderators and members polices itself (for the most part).

[jdc]

Originally Posted by Jimbits76

Just to clarify what is the definition of rude....

Rude ignorant? "Shut yer yap Jimbits, you are an ugly idiot!"

or Rude Saucy? "Hey Jimbits, you've a nice bum!"

J

in the realms of fantasy again Jimbo?

[mgm]

Originally Posted by Gedanken

Funny you should mention that, Caroline. I've always figured that offensive members of a forum are the sort that never grew out of the infantile thrill of typing rude things and seeing them come up on screen. That such words could go past their own computers and onto thousands of other computers through the Internet must have been a godsend for them.

The Internet, with forums and blogs in particular, is the ultimate in vanity press. It gives any armchair Rambo the medium through which they can tell everybody how they would have won Vietnam singlehandedly, or every wannabe a space in which they can present themselves as the Warren Buffet they fantasise about being.

Speaking from a couple of years of moderation experience here, I don't think it's so much a case of it being tolerated on forums as it is about mod teams not being up to the job. The amount of thought and insight that my fellow mods apply to running this forum is staggering when I think about it - what with the number of members we have on the forum these days, trying to work out a set of principles that would fairly cater to the range of the membership's wants and needs is a very tall order, and one that gets taller by the day. The amount of work that the team has put in to get to this point is well beyond reasonable, even if the mod roles were paid jobs. To be frank, I can sympathise with the mod teams that have thrown in the towel and either let things slide or enforced an excessively rigid rule structure that leaves little space for the exercise of judgement - it's just bloody hard work.

The good news is that once things get set up right, a good foundation makes things a lot easier. In the case of this forum, we have (by and large) a great foundation of members who know exactly why they turn up on the forum, and make the moderation job a lot easier by embodying the spirit of the forum and keeping things on track.

Solid foundation means an easily maintained superstructure. Iffy foundation means a full-time job to keep the superstructure from toppling. As we lose governing principles, so too we lose ability to govern.

One answer to Dell's question is that a forum reflects the personality of its owner/moderators. The benefit lies in the eye of administration. If you are an ugly head honcho, you get to be the meanest pig in the pile, and therefor the control issues always fall in your favor; if such is your will, oh Screwtape.

[Widows Son]

I don't see any point in sparring with someone over the net. All it does is raise your BP, there's no resolution. I'm a member of about a dozen sites and have yet to be spanked by a Mod. When I see an anti police, political, or anti Masonic thread brewing, I usually step away and keep my trap shut. The ignorance people spout off has no end. I'd be better off trying to teach my Lab physics than trying to convince them they're wrong.

[Welshwatchman]

Not being a connoisseur of the world of forums out there I can only speak of this and the other one I used to frequent previously.

We get our share of plebs and rudeboys, no doubt about that. There is always the danger that our "elixir" is diluted by the poison of said offenders but they do tend to leave, whether it is by gentle request or out the back door into the alleyway head first.

The good thing about being a non commercial site is that we don't need to pamper to the "Jerry Springer" crowd.

Both Youtube and (surprisingly) IMDB.com are infested with vile comments. If I were a mod on either of those sites I would need a new ban button per week!