14060 U serial Swiss made dial

[davecz]

Looking to purchase a 14060, the one I’m looking at ha a Swiss made dial and is U3 serial, should it be just Swiss dial? Also LT9 bracelet so could be a replacement bracelet so wondering if dual was replaced as well

Thoughts, looks good and unpolished but would rather have original
Parts

[Clay]

Yes, the U series was the first to have the "Swiss" only dial...

But the Bracelet is from about 2009 I think...1998-2000

[davecz]

This one has “Swiss made” dial

[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by Clay

Yes, the U series was the first to have the "Swiss" only dial...

But the Bracelet is from about 2009 I think...1998-2000

Or at least the buckle. Not necessarily the whole bracelet.

Either way, pretty safe bet that U serial 14060 does not have all-original parts, based on the information given. It's also highly unlikely that it's unpolished, as you say. That doesn't mean it's not still in good condition.

[padi56]

Up till 1960 Rolex used the word SWISS then dials were Radioactive Radium from around early 1960 on Rolex used Tritium for the lume T.Swiss.T less than 277 MBq (7.5mCi) or Swiss <T25 less than 925 MBq (25mCi)on the dial depending on how much radioactivity they had from 1960 till mid/late 1998. Then Swiss only dials were used with Luminovor from around 1998 to 2000, then after 2000 back to Swiss Made with Superluminovor.So if your watch is a U serial from 1997/8 it should be originally Swiss<T25, or just Swiss at dial bottom, but if Swiss Made that dial has been changed.

[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by padi56

Up till 1960 Rolex used the word SWISS then dials were Radioactive Radium from around early 1960 on Rolex used Tritium for the lume T.Swiss.T less than 277 MBq (7.5mCi) or Swiss <T25 less than 925 MBq (25mCi)on the dial depending on how much radioactivity they had from 1960 till mid/late 1998. Then Swiss only dials were used with Luminovor from around 1998 to 2000, then after 2000 back to Swiss Made with Superluminovor.So if your watch is a U serial from 1997/8 it should be originally Swiss<T25, or just Swiss at dial bottom, but if Swiss Made that dial has been changed.

Please show me one source, just one, confirming that something called "Luminovor" (as opposed to Luminova) ever existed. I have searched high and low, and everything I've read refers to Luminova.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by mtgjr

Please show me one source, just one, confirming that something called "Luminovor" (as opposed to Luminova) ever existed. I have searched high and low, and everything I've read refers to Luminova.

Quite correct just a simple spelling mistake should be Luminova

[Beelzy]

Originally Posted by mtgjr

Please show me one source, just one, confirming that something called "Luminovor" (as opposed to Luminova) ever existed. I have searched high and low, and everything I've read refers to Luminova.

Lol! Luminovor...drama over a typo.

[Gerry62]

my ser U 799xxx

only swiss

never seen a swiss made

[cop414]

Great to see you Peter

[mtgjr]

Originally Posted by Beelzy

Lol! Luminovor...drama over a typo.

It's not really drama. And definitely not a typo. Padi is super knowledgeable about this kind of stuff and he frequently writes about "Luninovor" lumed dials. I've asked in the past about it and have never gotten clarification. Thought maybe it was the original trade name or something, before it became licensed by Rolex and marketed as Luminova. Alas, just a recurring spelling error....

[davecz]

Well I’ll probably pass on this one, just doesn’t feel right. Ok not the real question is who wants to sell me their unpolished 14060. And I can’t spell so I’ll stay out of the line drama

[Old Expat Beast]

Originally Posted by mtgjr

It's not really drama. And definitely not a typo. Padi is super knowledgeable about this kind of stuff and he frequently writes about "Luninovor" lumed dials. I've asked in the past about it and have never gotten clarification. Thought maybe it was the original trade name or something, before it became licensed by Rolex and marketed as Luminova. Alas, just a recurring spelling error....

Being a smart-ass at a mod's expense is really not a great idea, especially when you've stacked up 21 infraction points in the last year for insulting other members and antagonistic behaviour.

[Onikage]

A champagne superluminovor in the skyyy! Ahem.. I'd say it's a safe bet the dial is a service dial. I've seen tritium dials used in early U serials and my guess is that yours once had one. Which subsequently died and was replaced with a permanently glowy new one. Bracelet/Clasp definitely replaced, probably at the same time.
Since the watch isn't exactly rare this isn't a terrible thing. I'd certainly consider it for the right money if overall condition is as good as you say. Certainly nothing fantastic about another dead lumed 5 digit Sub - Yours will actually work and have a minty bracelet.

[FTX I]

Originally Posted by cop414

Great to see you Peter

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