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jasonsensation · 3 February 2018, 08:44 AM

It's become almost impossible to get a BLNR in the UK now from an AD.

However i know of somewhere which are willing to take a deposit..

Is that a good thing? Should i jump at the chance of putting down a deposit, does this mean i jump the line? and show that i am serious

(have i answered my own question)

tufty · 3 February 2018, 08:50 AM

almost??? so there is a chance, take the chance?, where in uk are you?

DoctorA · 3 February 2018, 08:58 AM

They’re really showing up more and more in the US Aan’s I’m sure the wave is reaching the UK soon
Rolex is loosening it’s pursestrings!!

jasonsensation · 3 February 2018, 09:00 AM

I do like the standard black ceramic which seems much easier to get.

I just dont want to give this person a deposit, and then end up with no watch whilst the Black Ceramic keeps increasing in price

jasonsensation · 3 February 2018, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoctorA

They’re really showing up more and more in the US Aan’s I’m sure the wave is reaching the UK soon
Rolex is loosening it’s pursestrings!!

United Kingdom AD's are getting in only a couple a year (so they say) and most are saying the same thing. So i expect they're really only selling to previous rolex customers, and first time buyers get nothing?

Mchristie2 · 3 February 2018, 09:33 AM

I put my name down with a deposit in an ad in Glasgow in mid October- and got the call last week for the Batman and gladly picked it up.
Was told they were getting 2-3 a month - even in December.

I’d get on the list and just wait.

Time taker · 3 February 2018, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mchristie2

I put my name down with a deposit in an ad in Glasgow in mid October- and got the call last week for the Batman and gladly picked it up.

Was told they were getting 2-3 a month - even in December.

I’d get on the list and just wait.

I put my name down with 4 ADs in Jan 16 and a further 2 in September and I'm still waiting for a call !!!!
I'm clearly doing some this wrong?!

jasonsensation · 3 February 2018, 09:50 AM

Do you think it's worth finding someone that is willing to take a deposit on The Batman? rather than just giving them your name and praying

biscotti · 3 February 2018, 12:05 PM

I think a deposit does make a difference, especially at ADs that don't require one.

jasonsensation · 3 February 2018, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biscotti

I think a deposit does make a difference, especially at ADs that don't require one.

Do you actually think being able to make a deposit makes a difference then?
main concern is if i give them £500. And then finding myself waiting over a year for one..when i could just get a black ceramic gmt pretty quickly

AK797 · 3 February 2018, 12:13 PM

Put one down but establish a time limit in writing for when you get it back.

jasonsensation · 3 February 2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Put one down but establish a time limit in writing for when you get it back.

One of the assistants mentioned 6 months. But no one can be sure. How long is a piece of string lol

biscotti · 3 February 2018, 12:48 PM

If you leave a deposit and others didn't, that will likely move you up the list. That's how I got my SD43 so quickly. I was supposedly 9th on the list, but after my deposit, my watch arrived within two months. A deposit shows the AD that you are very serious about purchasing the watch if it becomes available.

antoflo · 3 February 2018, 12:51 PM

Ask for a refundable deposit.
If you find the watch elsewhere or the waiting time it too long you can ask your money back.

CKL1213 · 3 February 2018, 12:59 PM

deposit with refundable terms and keep hunting elsewhere

JRT · 3 February 2018, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CKL1213

deposit with refundable terms and keep hunting elsewhere

It seems not much different from the one in the waiting list without deposit.

Sandpit · 3 February 2018, 02:45 PM

David M Robinson typically ask for 25% once their list is open for deposits. They then say it’s 6 months from deposit to collection. As long as they’re a proper AD I wouldn’t worry too much but absolutely make sure it’s refundable. I’d guess it sorts out the serious buyers.

Sandpit · 3 February 2018, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Time taker

I put my name down with 4 ADs in Jan 16 and a further 2 in September and I'm still waiting for a call !!!!
I'm clearly doing some this wrong?!

Assuming they’re all London ADs I’d say that’s the problem. Move out a little and it may be a lot easier.

Time taker · 3 February 2018, 03:14 PM

I spoke to all 6 ADs in September and offered a deposit to each. All said that there was no need. I have deliberately tried to stay away from London Town - I live in Essex and have contact dealers from Cambridge to Canterbury...
I did get 'the call' in December but it turned out the dealer was offering me an LN rather than the BLNR!

emkwan · 3 February 2018, 03:32 PM

I know someone selling theirs here. He got a hulk grey market before the AD called about the BLNR and doesn’t want the BLNR now. Have you tried grey market ??? Let me speak to him and see what he wants as I’m traveling back to the UK in March.

Onikage · 3 February 2018, 03:36 PM

I know someone who's got one. I don't know if/how long he waited though. He's very happy.

Nairn1980 · 3 February 2018, 05:51 PM

Deposit can help but won’t protect you from a price increase, and you could still have to wait a fair amount of time.

AK797 · 4 February 2018, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonsensation

One of the assistants mentioned 6 months. But no one can be sure. How long is a piece of string lol

If 6 months is OK with you then have that written. I'd aim for 3 months to really give some incentive.

Johny · 4 February 2018, 01:58 AM

Hi op.

It might be an idea to ask the ad if a large deposit would move you up their waiting list.

metrokick911 · 4 February 2018, 02:11 AM

Are deposits in the UK not refundable? When I looked for my BLNR, I put down two refundable deposits at different ADs. When I found it from a completely different AD, I got refunds instantly processed from both.

AK797 · 4 February 2018, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by emkwan

I know someone selling theirs here. He got a hulk grey market before the AD called about the BLNR and doesn’t want the BLNR now. Have you tried grey market ??? Let me speak to him and see what he wants as I’m traveling back to the UK in March.

Grey market here is horrible for Hulks, Watchfinder are still trying to sell 3 2017 unworns for near £9.5K, a 50% premium. BLNR not much better, even black subs are now £8.5K.

icemanneo11 · 4 February 2018, 04:43 AM

I was fortunate to speak with a shop after seeing their advert in City AM and within a month I was or am the proud owner of the GMT Master BLNR.
Only stipulation they had was they would keep the warranty card onsite for a year.
Guess this prevents you from getting the watch and selling it on, which I understand and am certainly not going to sell it on!

3 February 2018, 08:44 AM	#1
jasonsensation Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Uk Posts: 53	UK Dry spell of Batman's It's become almost impossible to get a BLNR in the UK now from an AD. However i know of somewhere which are willing to take a deposit.. Is that a good thing? Should i jump at the chance of putting down a deposit, does this mean i jump the line? and show that i am serious (have i answered my own question)

3 February 2018, 08:58 AM	#3
DoctorA "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 6,523	They’re really showing up more and more in the US Aan’s I’m sure the wave is reaching the UK soon Rolex is loosening it’s pursestrings!! __________________ Wear the watch you like, not the one they tell you to wear!

3 February 2018, 03:14 PM	#19
Time taker "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: London Posts: 58	Rolex Batman within United Kingdom I spoke to all 6 ADs in September and offered a deposit to each. All said that there was no need. I have deliberately tried to stay away from London Town - I live in Essex and have contact dealers from Cambridge to Canterbury... I did get 'the call' in December but it turned out the dealer was offering me an LN rather than the BLNR!

3 February 2018, 03:36 PM	#21
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	I know someone who's got one. I don't know if/how long he waited though. He's very happy. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

4 February 2018, 01:58 AM	#24
Johny "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: john Location: Scotland Watch: sub 16610Lv Posts: 13,523	Hi op. It might be an idea to ask the ad if a large deposit would move you up their waiting list. __________________ "AFTER DARK" BAR AND NIGHT CLUB GM.

3 February 2018, 08:50 AM	#2
tufty "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: UK Watch: DJ II, Exp II Posts: 901	almost??? so there is a chance, take the chance?, where in uk are you?

3 February 2018, 09:00 AM	#4
jasonsensation Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Uk Posts: 53	I do like the standard black ceramic which seems much easier to get. I just dont want to give this person a deposit, and then end up with no watch whilst the Black Ceramic keeps increasing in price

3 February 2018, 09:33 AM	#6
Mchristie2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Glasgow Posts: 48	I put my name down with a deposit in an ad in Glasgow in mid October- and got the call last week for the Batman and gladly picked it up. Was told they were getting 2-3 a month - even in December. I’d get on the list and just wait.

3 February 2018, 09:50 AM	#8
jasonsensation Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Uk Posts: 53	Do you think it's worth finding someone that is willing to take a deposit on The Batman? rather than just giving them your name and praying

3 February 2018, 12:05 PM	#9
biscotti "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Canada Watch: Smurf Posts: 363	I think a deposit does make a difference, especially at ADs that don't require one.

3 February 2018, 12:13 PM	#11
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,302	Put one down but establish a time limit in writing for when you get it back.

3 February 2018, 12:48 PM	#13
biscotti "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Canada Watch: Smurf Posts: 363	If you leave a deposit and others didn't, that will likely move you up the list. That's how I got my SD43 so quickly. I was supposedly 9th on the list, but after my deposit, my watch arrived within two months. A deposit shows the AD that you are very serious about purchasing the watch if it becomes available.

3 February 2018, 12:51 PM	#14
antoflo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Canada Watch: DJII, Sub Posts: 597	Ask for a refundable deposit. If you find the watch elsewhere or the waiting time it too long you can ask your money back.

3 February 2018, 12:59 PM	#15
CKL1213 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Malaysia Posts: 367	deposit with refundable terms and keep hunting elsewhere

3 February 2018, 02:45 PM	#17
Sandpit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Middle East Posts: 1,808	David M Robinson typically ask for 25% once their list is open for deposits. They then say it’s 6 months from deposit to collection. As long as they’re a proper AD I wouldn’t worry too much but absolutely make sure it’s refundable. I’d guess it sorts out the serious buyers.

3 February 2018, 03:32 PM	#20
emkwan Banned Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Abu Dhabi - Dubai Watch: Rolex 116710 BLNR Posts: 375	I know someone selling theirs here. He got a hulk grey market before the AD called about the BLNR and doesn’t want the BLNR now. Have you tried grey market ??? Let me speak to him and see what he wants as I’m traveling back to the UK in March.

3 February 2018, 05:51 PM	#22
Nairn1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 8,286	Deposit can help but won’t protect you from a price increase, and you could still have to wait a fair amount of time.

4 February 2018, 02:11 AM	#25
metrokick911 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: New York, NY Watch: BLNR Posts: 14	Are deposits in the UK not refundable? When I looked for my BLNR, I put down two refundable deposits at different ADs. When I found it from a completely different AD, I got refunds instantly processed from both.

4 February 2018, 04:43 AM	#27
icemanneo11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: UK Posts: 3	I was fortunate to speak with a shop after seeing their advert in City AM and within a month I was or am the proud owner of the GMT Master BLNR. Only stipulation they had was they would keep the warranty card onsite for a year. Guess this prevents you from getting the watch and selling it on, which I understand and am certainly not going to sell it on!

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