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Jeffw22 · 1 May 2018, 08:48 PM

I purchased a job lot of watches from an auction site (storage lot). One of the watches was a “Rolex” oyster Perpetual datejust. Everything seems to be genuine including the crown etched on the crystal. The only thing that has me worried is that the back has a “see through” section. Ie skeleton. Could this be genuine or do I have a counterfeit?

Andad · 1 May 2018, 08:57 PM

Hi Jeff,

I'm not far from you.

See through back? would be aftermarket if it's real.

Not sure what you mean by skeleton?

Pix when you can.

faimag · 1 May 2018, 10:05 PM

I think OP means you can see the movement through the back. Like the skeletonized dials where you can see the movement from the front.
Clear caseback is certainly not a Rolex thing.

AK797 · 1 May 2018, 10:32 PM

Probably fake. Pic?

meganfox17 · 1 May 2018, 10:53 PM

I think I know what the OP is talking about.
I'm guessing the watch is pretty much Rolex but the exclusive glass exhibition caseback is made by the open case-back maker, Thomas Preik from Custom Watch Concepts.The high quality sapphire crystal casebacks are waterproof and corrosion resistant but built to handle about 100 m+ WR test only so a Sub may have a 300 m WR on the dial but a 100 m WR caseback.

I'm sure everybody knows that Omega Sports watches are relatively thicker because of the open case-backs (and the Co-Axial calibres of course), right? Similarly, custom built Rolex open casebacks add 2-3mm to the overall height so keep that in mind.

The German based company also makes specific clear case-backs for some Omega Speedys, Vintage Breitlngs and Zenith watches. Once the customer receives the package from Germany, he or she needs to send the product to the local watch for installation who will remove the solid caseback and replacing it with the new open case-back,then have it pressure tested, specific open case-backs are so precise fitting that they always line up with the gasket correctly

p/s: I won't post any photos ( or memes) of a Rolex custom built open s.c caseback piece on the thread since the Mods won't find 'em one bit amusing !!!

JayB · 1 May 2018, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meganfox17

I think I know what the OP is talking about.
I'm guessing the watch is pretty much Rolex but the exclusive open exhibition caseback is made by the open case-back maker, Thomas Preik from Custom Watch Concepts.The high quality sapphire crystal casebacks are waterproof and corrosion resistant but built to handle about 100 m+ WR test only so a Sub may have a 300 m WR on the dial but a 100 m WR caseback.

I'm sure everybody knows that Omega Sports watches are relatively thicker because of the open case-backs (and the Co-Axial calibres of course), right? Similarly, custom built Rolex open casebacks add 2-3mm to the overall height so keep that in mind.

The German based company also makes specific clear case-backs for some Omega Speedys, Vintage Breitlngs and Zenith watches. Once the customer receives the package from Germany, he or she needs to send the product to the local watch for installation who will remove the solid caseback and replacing it with the new open case-back,then have it pressure tested, specific open case-backs are so precise fitting that they always line up with the gasket correctly

Wow, you can tell all that from the OP, you are good.

OP - Post pictures so the members can give their opinions.

GLADIATOR · 2 May 2018, 01:23 AM

Without photos no one can tell.
For certain ROLEX do not use exhibition backs on their sports models, that said you can buy "exhibition" backs to fit Rolex cases.
Might be that - but more likely a fake

spoilsofwar01 · 2 May 2018, 01:29 AM

I purchased a job lot of watches from an auction site (storage lot).

I've read enough, very unlikely to be a real Rolex but as other have already said, "let see some photo's!"

Jeffw22 · 2 May 2018, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

Hi Jeff,

I'm not far from you.

See through back? would be aftermarket if it's real.

Not sure what you mean by skeleton?

Pix when you can.

I’ve taken several photos but they are all too large to upload to this forum. I’ll try and work out how to downsize them. Where are you? You said you were not far away. I’m in Port Lincoln.

Jeffw22 · 2 May 2018, 01:59 PM

Here’s a couple of pics of the back of the watch

Jeffw22 · 2 May 2018, 02:03 PM

Here’s another picture IMG_3481.JPG

swatty · 2 May 2018, 02:25 PM

its fake sorry

Tools · 2 May 2018, 02:36 PM

: Sorry

Jeffw22 · 2 May 2018, 02:46 PM

Thanks for your help. I didn’t pay much for the parcel so it’s all good. Would have been nice to find a gem though!

henrylee · 2 May 2018, 03:22 PM

Fake sorry

crowncollection · 3 May 2018, 09:02 AM

No good

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dmash · 8 May 2018, 11:41 PM

Highly doubt everything else ‘seemed genuine’ as you stated....might want to take an expert with you next time.

1 May 2018, 08:48 PM	#1
Jeffw22 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jeff Wright Location: Port Lincoln Watch: Seiko Diver modded Posts: 5	Not sure if my Rolex is a fake I purchased a job lot of watches from an auction site (storage lot). One of the watches was a “Rolex” oyster Perpetual datejust. Everything seems to be genuine including the crown etched on the crystal. The only thing that has me worried is that the back has a “see through” section. Ie skeleton. Could this be genuine or do I have a counterfeit?

1 May 2018, 08:57 PM	#2
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,943	Hi Jeff, I'm not far from you. See through back? would be aftermarket if it's real. Not sure what you mean by skeleton? Pix when you can. __________________ E

2 May 2018, 01:23 AM	#7
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Without photos no one can tell. For certain ROLEX do not use exhibition backs on their sports models, that said you can buy "exhibition" backs to fit Rolex cases. Might be that - but more likely a fake __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

2 May 2018, 01:29 AM	#8
spoilsofwar01 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: "H" Location: England Watch: ing Rainclouds Posts: 1,437	auction site / storage lot....... I purchased a job lot of watches from an auction site (storage lot). I've read enough, very unlikely to be a real Rolex but as other have already said, "let see some photo's!"

2 May 2018, 02:36 PM	#13
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,140	: Sorry __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

1 May 2018, 10:05 PM	#3
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,078	I think OP means you can see the movement through the back. Like the skeletonized dials where you can see the movement from the front. Clear caseback is certainly not a Rolex thing.

1 May 2018, 10:32 PM	#4
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,278	Probably fake. Pic?

1 May 2018, 10:53 PM	#5
meganfox17 Banned Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Kuala Lumpur , Ma Posts: 2,011	I think I know what the OP is talking about. I'm guessing the watch is pretty much Rolex but the exclusive glass exhibition caseback is made by the open case-back maker, Thomas Preik from Custom Watch Concepts.The high quality sapphire crystal casebacks are waterproof and corrosion resistant but built to handle about 100 m+ WR test only so a Sub may have a 300 m WR on the dial but a 100 m WR caseback. I'm sure everybody knows that Omega Sports watches are relatively thicker because of the open case-backs (and the Co-Axial calibres of course), right? Similarly, custom built Rolex open casebacks add 2-3mm to the overall height so keep that in mind. The German based company also makes specific clear case-backs for some Omega Speedys, Vintage Breitlngs and Zenith watches. Once the customer receives the package from Germany, he or she needs to send the product to the local watch for installation who will remove the solid caseback and replacing it with the new open case-back,then have it pressure tested, specific open case-backs are so precise fitting that they always line up with the gasket correctly p/s: I won't post any photos ( or memes) of a Rolex custom built open s.c caseback piece on the thread since the Mods won't find 'em one bit amusing !!!

2 May 2018, 02:03 PM	#11
Jeffw22 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jeff Wright Location: Port Lincoln Watch: Seiko Diver modded Posts: 5	Here’s another picture IMG_3481.JPG

2 May 2018, 02:25 PM	#12
swatty 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,409	its fake sorry

2 May 2018, 02:46 PM	#14
Jeffw22 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jeff Wright Location: Port Lincoln Watch: Seiko Diver modded Posts: 5	All good Thanks for your help. I didn’t pay much for the parcel so it’s all good. Would have been nice to find a gem though!

2 May 2018, 03:22 PM	#15
henrylee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Socal/LA Watch: 116610LN Ceramic Posts: 3,219	Fake sorry __________________ ♛ Sub 116610LN 2011 ♛ GMT 126710BLNR 2021 ♛ GMT 126711CHNR 2020 ♛ Datejust 16233 X-series 1993 Ω Speedmaster Mitsukoshi 2019 č Cartier Tank w5200025 2021

3 May 2018, 09:02 AM	#16
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,165	No good Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

8 May 2018, 11:41 PM	#17
dmash "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA <> BKK Posts: 5,912	Highly doubt everything else ‘seemed genuine’ as you stated....might want to take an expert with you next time.

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